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gtcam said:
Amen to that, now if we could get a clear read on the numbers for Covid-19
I guess we will someday when we have moved on to the next calamity/emergency/issue - can't wait!
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You know you can't just quote a post and put half a sentence in bold to change what a poster is saying right?
 
BParkDog said:
Another poster noted that he has practically been screaming about long term effects of SARS-CoV-2 infection, and noted that everything should be shut down if this young man's apparent cardiovascular issue was caused by Covid-19.
People are going to want to to use this young man's tragedy to support their desire for . . . whatever they think is correct.


Well this is exactly the point. This may be SARS-CoV-2 related, but all the science we have to date says, very unlikely. That's not sensation. That's just what the science is telling us. The sensation is the Penn State doc falsely announcing numbers, the German study having to retract faulty numbers, and the overboard reaction to every morsel of news that runs across the screen.


That's not how it typically works, but thanks for the smile this morning. If you believe that, in order to hold a basic belief true, you must first provide "evidence that there aren't," then be super sure not to take any of the mRNA vaccines that they are rolling out - the concept is brand new and the particular naked nucleic acids they are going to be shooting into your shoulder are also new. So we are dealing with a novel vaccine type and novel vaccine within that type, the latter of which has been under development for . . . 270 days.

I'll have no problem taking the vaccine if they make me, or if I have the choice and I choose to, but make no mistake about it . . . we won't know what the long term effects are, if any, until years from now.

Finally, if it's up to me to provide "evidence that there aren't," rather than the person arguing for long term effects to provide "evidence that there are," then you'd almost have to accept any argument that you can't refute with "evidence that there aren't."

For example, the existence of a god or a dozen gods or a sun god. Do you have any evidence that there aren't?

Or Mastodons and Sabre Tooth Tigers in the woods around Storrs, Connecticut. Do you have an evidence that there aren't? I think you do not, sir.

And I'm not advocating for any position. I'm advocating for the science. If a study was produced that showed that a SARS-CoV-2 infection was the primary or substantial cause of a young, healthy athlete's death, you can mark it down that I'll be the first one calling for the season to end.
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Thank you for bringing a voice of reason and veracity to this wilderness. I lean towards bringing snarkiness to the battle, but we all do what we can do.
 
Kathy said:
Remote learning, hybrid models, smaller class sizes - a lot transmitted in schools. Early season numbers for vaccinations against the flu were double what they were last year at the same time.

'New data from the health IT firm IQVIA finds that 23.5 million people got the flu shot from Aug. 7 through Oct. 2, compared with 12.6 million during the same timeframe in 2019.'
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You then must be assuming the most vulnerable to the seasonal flu were heavily represented in the additional 10.9 million who sought out the flu vaccine this year.
 
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uconngb said:
This thread needs to be locked. This kid is in a (medically-induced) coma, and you knuckleheads are arguing about Covid. What a joke. Hope the kid is ok, that's all this thread should be about.
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That's what all these arm chair Doctors do. They're all so smart, yet too stupid to stay between the lines and follow the thread. Maybe all Covid conversation should be done in the Cesspool. And it's the same people, time after time.
 
MuchoDogYears said:
Thank you for bringing a voice of reason and veracity to this wilderness. I lean towards bringing snarkiness to the battle, but we all do what we can do.
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Unfortunately @BParkDog's claim about the German study did not recognize the corrections made by the authors to that study after they were challenged. After those corrections there still was statistical evidence of heart problems in the group they studied, a group that included healthy individuals who had mild Covid-19 symptoms. What he could have said was the German study did not include anyone younger than 31.

I hated like heck discussing clinical issues when the most significant thing is a kids life but the last thing that’s needed is misinformation when the health of many people is at stake.
 
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This timeline isn’t making sense to me. When was he extubated if he sounds like “you can tell he’s been sedated”? “Having good conversations” is some big update? Did he have a stroke or something? I remember some of our young COVIDs (20s-30s) early on having random strokes.
 
Rocktheworld said:
This timeline isn’t making sense to me. When was he extubated if he sounds like “you can tell he’s been sedated”? “Having good conversations” is some big update? Did he have a stroke or something? I remember some of our young COVIDs (20s-30s) early on having random strokes.
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Yeah - something is definately missing in the timeline. Hope he continues to progress.
 
The way that his head slammed...I wouldn't doubt that there may have been severe concussion.

Going from being groggy and sedated one day to having good conversations the next sounds good to me...like he is coming out. Never been put into a coma, so I do not know the recovery interval.
 
This was interesting. Doesn't fit the rhetoric that has been used the last 9 months.

“What we believed before about the relative harmlessness of COVID-19 among younger adults has simply not been borne out by emerging data,” the doctors wrote. “In the past, it took us too long to respond to the epidemics of opioids and H.I.V./AIDS when the young started dying in large numbers. Now that we have similar information about COVID-19, we must immediately address it. We need to amend our messaging and our policies now. Outreach in the coming weeks and months is imperative. We know it can help.”

www.boston.com

Boston doctors warn that young people are dying at ‘historic rates’ from COVID-19

Boston doctors are warning in new research and in an op-ed in the New York Times that young people are dying at ‘historic rates’ from COVID-19. Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the chief of the division of infectious diseases at Massachusetts General Hospital who has been nominated by President-elect Joe...
www.boston.com
 
HooperScooper said:
This was interesting. Doesn't fit the rhetoric that has been used the last 9 months.

“What we believed before about the relative harmlessness of COVID-19 among younger adults has simply not been borne out by emerging data,” the doctors wrote. “In the past, it took us too long to respond to the epidemics of opioids and H.I.V./AIDS when the young started dying in large numbers. Now that we have similar information about COVID-19, we must immediately address it. We need to amend our messaging and our policies now. Outreach in the coming weeks and months is imperative. We know it can help.”

www.boston.com

Boston doctors warn that young people are dying at ‘historic rates’ from COVID-19

Boston doctors are warning in new research and in an op-ed in the New York Times that young people are dying at ‘historic rates’ from COVID-19. Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the chief of the division of infectious diseases at Massachusetts General Hospital who has been nominated by President-elect Joe...
www.boston.com
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Interesting that the headline says the deaths are "from COVID" but the article says "the physicians said they found that from March through the end of July, there were almost 12,000 more deaths than expected based on historical norms among adults between the ages of 25 and 44.....While detailed data are not yet available for all areas, we know COVID-19 is the driving force behind these excess deaths,”

What the heck does "the driving force behind the deaths" mean. That could mean that the deaths were not "from Covid." Is it an uptick in suicide? In drugs deaths? It's tough to follow the science the science when the science is ambiguous at best.
 
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Palatine said:
Interesting that the headline says the deaths are "from COVID" but the article says "the physicians said they found that from March through the end of July, there were almost 12,000 more deaths than expected based on historical norms among adults between the ages of 25 and 44.....While detailed data are not yet available for all areas, we know COVID-19 is the driving force behind these excess deaths,”

What the heck does "the driving force behind the deaths" mean. That could mean that the deaths were not "from Covid." Is it an uptick in suicide? In drugs deaths? It's tough to follow the science the science when the science is ambiguous at best.
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I wish I could enjoy the bliss that must come from this level of ignorance
 
Palatine said:
Interesting that the headline says the deaths are "from COVID" but the article says "the physicians said they found that from March through the end of July, there were almost 12,000 more deaths than expected based on historical norms among adults between the ages of 25 and 44.....While detailed data are not yet available for all areas, we know COVID-19 is the driving force behind these excess deaths,”

What the heck does "the driving force behind the deaths" mean. That could mean that the deaths were not "from Covid." Is it an uptick in suicide? In drugs deaths? It's tough to follow the science the science when the science is ambiguous at best.
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DeSantis isn't hiring, so not sure why you need to publicly post your application.
 
The SEC coaches are asking for the absolute unknowable. We've gone decades w/ guesswork trying to associate post-infection illness with the original infection, but John Calipari needs to know--NOW!
 
Just nice to hear he is progressing well. Pray for a complete recovery for this talented young man.
 
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Even if it is COVID related there’s no need to shut the season down.

Just hope he’s okay.
 
CTBasketball said:
Even if it is COVID related there’s no need to shut the season down.

Just hope he’s okay.
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we don’t know long term effects of covid. it could be permanent heart or lung damage though. i wouldn’t risk it
 
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