OT - Karen Read Trial in Massachusetts

[FlippinCrazy!]

What makes this even crazier, police are the highest paid employees in Massachusetts. They can get $200-300k on top of base salary just for overtime. I wouldn’t be surprised if the night this lead detective and his partner got hammered and drove home in the squad car drunk was logged as “overtime”.

I’ve lived in Massachusetts my whole life outside of going to UConn. I acknowledge there are good cops out there, but from my experience here, they’re few and far between. Most of them are uneducated people who couldn’t get into college that have power trips and who think they’re better than us civilians.

 

[Kolumbo]

Today they will voir dire future potential witness. I don't have time to follow live, but it seems one expert testified the scratches on his arm were consistent with being hit by a car with a broken taillight. Another expert is supposed to testify that they were dog bites.

 

[auror]

Today they will voir dire future potential witness. I don't have time to follow live, but it seems one expert testified the scratches on his arm were consistent with being hit by a car with a broken taillight. Another expert is supposed to testify that they were dog bites.

From all accounts, the experts from yesterday bombed. They were "experts".

"The cellphone was found under his torso, under his body. What is your theory on how that cellphone ended up flying 30 feet?" Jackson asked.

"It just did," Paul said. "It just did. That is the evidence at the scene. I didn't put the evidence there."

“OK, well, you didn’t,” Jackson fired back, prompting an objection from prosecutors and a stern warning from Cannone.

Defenses theory is that stuff was planted, so this was just an alley oop from the expert lol.

 

[husky429]

From all accounts, the experts from yesterday bombed. They were "experts".

Defenses theory is that stuff was planted, so this was just an alley oop from the expert lol.

My wife is occasionally called in as a consult/expert/whatever for civil litigation when big $$$ is involved. I don't understand it other than I usually know it's happening when she puts on real pants for a day.

Some of the "experts" (usually non-medical) are shockingly, shockingly stupid. Just another reminder than education =/= intelligence, common sense, or much anything else.

 

[Kolumbo]

From all accounts, the experts from yesterday bombed. They were "experts".

Defenses theory is that stuff was planted, so this was just an alley oop from the expert lol.

very strange stuff. The cell phone could have been in his pocket and fallen out when he landed, or it was in his hand and he dropped it after he hit the ground. or it was planted.

I would also think the coroner would probably know best as to what caused the scratches. dog bites would seem to be very different than scratches.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Some of the "experts" (usually non-medical) are shockingly, shockingly stupid. Just another reminder than education =/= intelligence, common sense, or much anything else.

Like everything else, you get what you pay for. If i had an expert who knew less than me about whatever I hired them for I wouldn't hire them.

 

[Kolumbo]

My wife is occasionally called in as a consult/expert/whatever for civil litigation when big $$$ is involved. I don't understand it other than I usually know it's happening when she puts on real pants for a day.

Some of the "experts" (usually non-medical) are shockingly, shockingly stupid. Just another reminder than education =/= intelligence, common sense, or much anything else.

I thought it was the case that each side would bring in experts who supported their side of the story. At least that's what I gleaned from tv and movies. Stupid, or being bought.

 

[brihman]

Hopefully the Feds will get all of the cell phone data from the phone company instead of the selected, doctored records that the people provided.

Whatever was on Higgins' phone is probably key. He didn't go through all that trouble to dispose of his phone in the manner that he did for no reason.

The fact that texting gossip about the case to friends during an investigation doesn’t ring alarm bells as not a good idea shows how deep the issues are

 

[FfldCntyFan]

very strange stuff. The cell phone could have been in his pocket and fallen out when he landed, or it was in his hand and he dropped it after he hit the ground. or it was planted.

I would also think the coroner would probably know best as to what caused the scratches. dog bites would seem to be very different than scratches.

At this point I don't see how there would be anything for the experts to review (in terms of the scratched) other than photographs, taken at the crime scene (if there were any) and by the coroner.

I'm not sure any expert could find enough from photographs to refute the coroner's conclusion.

 

[Skiblets]

The ‘expert’ yesterday for the prosecution has an associates degree in criminal studies with a few weeks of ‘accident math’ as part of the curriculum. He performed zero analyses that include generally accepted laws of physics for momentum, acceleration velocity etc.

The defense will bring PhD scientists to refute the car accident claim

Expecting this to be the shortest jury deliberation ever when it’s all said and done

 

[NJHusky]

Expecting this to be the shortest jury deliberation ever when it’s all said and done

They won’t even need to go to the jury room. Will prob take the jurors longer to walk to their cars than the deliberations

 

[uconnfan68]

My wife is occasionally called in as a consult/expert/whatever for civil litigation when big $$$ is involved. I don't understand it other than I usually know it's happening when she puts on real pants for a day.

Some of the "experts" (usually non-medical) are shockingly, shockingly stupid. Just another reminder than education =/= intelligence, common sense, or much anything else.

“Real” pants?

 

[husky429]

“Real” pants?

She wears sweatpants, leggings, or whatever the heck those legging shorts things women like probably 95% of the time. If I see her put on a pair of jeans, I need to double-check it's actually my wife.

 

[UConn Dan]

The ‘expert’ yesterday for the prosecution has an associates degree in criminal studies with a few weeks of ‘accident math’ as part of the curriculum. He performed zero analyses that include generally accepted laws of physics for momentum, acceleration velocity etc.

The defense will bring PhD scientists to refute the car accident claim

Expecting this to be the shortest jury deliberation ever when it’s all said and done

The voir dire from defense expert witness, Daniel Wolfe, was impressive. He works for a private company and involved with the FBI investigation in the handling of this case. Not paid by defense. His report claims she didn’t hit him with the car.

Tomorrow will be interesting. I’m sure prosecution is crapping their pants.

 

[NJHusky]

The voir dire from defense expert witness, Daniel Wolfe, was impressive. He works for a private company and involved with the FBI investigation in the handling of this case. Not paid by defense. His report claims she didn’t hit him with the car.

Tomorrow will be interesting. I’m sure prosecution is crapping their pants.

Why the judge hadn’t immediately allowed the testimony I have no idea

 

[Chin Diesel]

The voir dire from defense expert witness, Daniel Wolfe, was impressive. He works for a private company and involved with the FBI investigation in the handling of this case. Not paid by defense. His report claims she didn’t hit him with the car.

Tomorrow will be interesting. I’m sure prosecution is crapping their pants.

When it comes to voir dire of a witness whose expertise is in general automotive knowledge, this is a prosecution's worst nightmare.

 

[UConn Dan]

When it comes to voir dire of a witness whose expertise is in general automotive knowledge, this is a prosecution's worst nightmare.

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I would not know what positraction was without Ms Mona Lisa Vito.

 

[huskyjawz]

Why the judge hadn’t immediately allowed the testimony I have no idea

Because she's in the bag for the prosecution.

 

[Skiblets]

Because she's in the bag for the prosecution.

To wit. Can’t make this stuff up. The Judges brother represented one of the Alberts in 1995 for a DUI murder charge

Canton Cover-Up Part 102: Beverly Cannone’s Brother Was Chris Albert’s Attorney When He Killed Man In 1995 Crash, Worked With Jill Daniels’ Father At Quincy Courthouse

Editor’s Note – We are suspended from posting or streaming on our YouTube channel for one week because a two year old video was reported by someone who is clearly trying to silen…

tbdailynews.com

 

[HuskyHawk]

I would not know what positraction was without Ms Mona Lisa Vito.

I knew, becasue when we did smokeshows (not Ms. Mona Lisa Vito, she's a different kind) in my friends' mom's Javelin, it didn't have it. So we left only one black stripe on the pavement.

 

[KembaStepback]

This case is an absolute joke. It scares me that the corruption runs so deep. State clearly knows she didn't do it. The judge should have removed herself for having a conflict but didn't. She clearly has bias. I'm confident Karen will be not-guilty but the fact that the real murderer and the cover up will never be tried and these pieces of shiiiiii (judge, prosecution, alberts, mccabes, buchenik, etc) will go free without a single repercussion is actually scary to me.

 

[UconnBoston]

To wit. Can’t make this stuff up. The Judges brother represented one of the Alberts in 1995 for a DUI murder charge

Canton Cover-Up Part 102: Beverly Cannone’s Brother Was Chris Albert’s Attorney When He Killed Man In 1995 Crash, Worked With Jill Daniels’ Father At Quincy Courthouse

Editor’s Note – We are suspended from posting or streaming on our YouTube channel for one week because a two year old video was reported by someone who is clearly trying to silen…

tbdailynews.com

Do you have a sibling? Would you sacrifice your professional integrity, act dishonestly and risk your reputation and career to help someone who your sibling worked with 30 years ago? Its not like her brother was even hired by Chris Albert, he was appointed to represent him as a public defender. This is meaningless and in no way a conflict of interest.

 

[huskyjawz]

Do you have a sibling? Would you sacrifice your professional integrity, act dishonestly and risk your reputation and career to help someone who your sibling worked with 30 years ago? Its not like her brother was even hired by Chris Albert, he was appointed to represent him as a public defender. This is meaningless and in no way a conflict of interest.

The point is; they all know each other; they're all friends.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Do you have a sibling? Would you sacrifice your professional integrity, act dishonestly and risk your reputation and career to help someone who your sibling worked with 30 years ago? Its not like her brother was even hired by Chris Albert, he was appointed to represent him as a public defender. This is meaningless and in no way a conflict of interest.

It is literally the definition of conflict of interest. The judge should have recused herself from the case.

I have been removed from a jury because I peripherally knew one of the witnesses.

 

[Skiblets]

Do you have a sibling? Would you sacrifice your professional integrity, act dishonestly and risk your reputation and career to help someone who your sibling worked with 30 years ago? Its not like her brother was even hired by Chris Albert, he was appointed to represent him as a public defender. This is meaningless and in no way a conflict of interest.

Wow. Not sure how to respond. If you don’t see anything wrong here related to how incestuous these relationships are not sure what to tell you.

The point is that in Norfolk county the culture of who knows whom in the justice system is rotten and why the Feds are doing their own investigation - the scope of which includes Norfolk County DA Morrissey who’s probably already preparing his retirement papers to keep his pension.