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awesome, its funny how Iman Shumpert is the forgotten guy on the Knicks now, he made some great defensive plays in the 4th quarter. Lin is taking full advantage of his opportunity good for him, welcome back Amare.
 
Trying to figure-out why I love Lin but hate Tebow. (And I'm not a Knicks fan in the least bit)
 
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uconNYC said:
Trying to figure-out why I love Lin but hate Tebow. (And I'm not a Knicks fan in the least bit)
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my friend is the same way and i was trying to figure out why. let's see:
great college player: check
nothing expected in pros: check
main value to team was bringing in new markets (tebow lovers and asians): check
inserted when team was free falling: check
"single-handedly" turned team around: check
product of a system which hides flaws and makes them seem better than they actually are: check
over-saturation on espn creating numerous haters: check

seem pretty similar to me. it's probably all the religious crap that comes along with tebow.
 
Maybe because I don't have to deal with any Tebow fans, I don't find TT particularly annoying. Something about his demeanor when he gets interviewed, he seems genuinely positive about life even if he comes across as a bit dim. Not to be mean, but Tebow reminds me of the kid in my HS who had Down's syndrome but had craaazy school spirit, like 100x more than anybody else. Hard to hate a kid like that.

Though I'm not religious I don't mind too much that he (or Lin) name-drops God every other interview, though it is funny that some of the people who are fans probably wouldn't give a rat's ass if they were just stars who gave normal interviews after the game. It did get to be a bit much with the Tebow on Sportcenter but you know what, when that happens I just change the channel. I think we may have a similar mania with Linsanity on SC, it hasn't been too much yet but it will be if he keeps putting up 25 and getting wins. One other positive is they both credit their teammates and coaches.
 
kobebeanbryant said:
my friend is the same way and i was trying to figure out why. let's see:
great college player: check
nothing expected in pros: check
main value to team was bringing in new markets (tebow lovers and asians): check
inserted when team was free falling: check
"single-handedly" turned team around: check
product of a system which hides flaws and makes them seem better than they actually are: check
over-saturation on espn creating numerous haters: check

seem pretty similar to me. it's probably all the religious crap that comes along with tebow.
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Huge difference is that Lin is actually putting up stats and basketball is a much harder sport to hide flaws when a player is player 40 a night. Football is a tad easier with the player off the field half (or more) of the plays and with plays that don't really involve the player.
 
I like to compare him more to Victor Cruz more so then Tebow, Tebow had hype coming out of college Lin did not.

Lin and Cruz comparisons

undrafted check
both organizations criticized for letting their guys go Steve Smith on the Giants and Billups on the Knicks
both playing in NY
Shumpert is getting overlooked now just like Hakeem Nicks was for the Giants
 
Agree. Tebow was Heisman winner and first round draft pick. He also played for Florida, national champions. Victor Cruz is better analogy and also you could say John Starks although Starks took a while to get going.

I am a huge Knicks fan and this is definitely the most fun I've had watching since the 1990s. The team plays to win and everyone seems to really like each other. We'll see what happens with Melo...

Scoe said:
I like to compare him more to Victor Cruz more so then Tebow, Tebow had hype coming out of college Lin did not.

Lin and Cruz comparisons

undrafted check
both organizations criticized for letting their guys go Steve Smith on the Giants and Billups on the Knicks
both playing in NY
Shumpert is getting overlooked now just like Hakeem Nicks was for the Giants
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Jeremy Lin wasn't offered a single D1 scholarship went undrafted and is putting up crazy #'s, Tebow was one of the most coveted college recruits, dominated in college and was a 1st round draft pick. They should never be compared to each other.
 
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willinphilly said:
We'll see what happens with Melo...
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it's gunna be tough for melo to come out of this looking good, considering how well the knicks have been playing lately (even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch, all fans care about is the wins).

nevertheless, the ceiling of the team with melo is much higher (although, i suppose the floor is too). i doubt the team as presently constituted would get far in the playoffs.
 
they were losing to crappy teams when melo was standing around with the ball. lin called for the iso on the last play on the game today. does he have balls or what???

i've been pretty down with uconn not playing well, but my knicks winning six straight does help a lot.

kobebeanbryant said:
it's gunna be tough for melo to come out of this looking good, considering how well the knicks have been playing lately (even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch, all fans care about is the wins).

nevertheless, the ceiling of the team with melo is much higher (although, i suppose the floor is too). i doubt the team as presently constituted would get far in the playoffs.
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if there was a way to disable all incoming texts from any asian friends during knicks games, i would like lin a lot more. since apple didn't see the need for this feature, i am sliding slowly into the group of lin haters.
 
kobebeanbryant said:
if there was a way to disable all incoming texts from any asian friends during knicks games, i would like lin a lot more. since apple didn't see the need for this feature, i am sliding slowly into the group of lin haters.
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bet floyd mayweather can help you find that app...
 
I haven't been this excited about the Knicks since 99. Man it's been a long time since those great Pacers/Heat/Bulls series.
 
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Yea I've been listening to WFAN trying to wrap my head around Knicks fans worried about Amare(lesser extent) and Melo coming back. You can enjoy this now but that Knicks squad isn't doing in the playoffs without Amare and Melo playing at a high level. Melo's definitely got to adjust but its not like he's never played with ball dominant PGs before and played well. He was being asked to do to much as Point Forward when that's obviously not his game.

kobebeanbryant said:
it's gunna be tough for melo to come out of this looking good, considering how well the knicks have been playing lately (even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch, all fans care about is the wins).

nevertheless, the ceiling of the team with melo is much higher (although, i suppose the floor is too). i doubt the team as presently constituted would get far in the playoffs.
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kobebeanbryant said:
it's gunna be tough for melo to come out of this looking good, considering how well the knicks have been playing lately (even if it hasn't been the toughest stretch, all fans care about is the wins).

nevertheless, the ceiling of the team with melo is much higher (although, i suppose the floor is too). i doubt the team as presently constituted would get far in the playoffs.
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Its all about how well the pieces come together, it is amazing what difference a pg can make. I would like for this team to just leave the team the way it is and not make any major moves. In a weak eastern conference anything is possible I dont see this team beating Chicago or Miami in a 7 game series anyone else in the east is possible. This team needs to get above .500 first and not look back so at the moment it isnt even a discussion right now. Teams that win NBA titles usually have to overcome failure in the playoffs in past years.
 
kobebeanbryant said:
my friend is the same way and i was trying to figure out why. let's see:
great college player: check
nothing expected in pros: check
main value to team was bringing in new markets (tebow lovers and asians): check
inserted when team was free falling: check
"single-handedly" turned team around: check
product of a system which hides flaws and makes them seem better than they actually are: check
over-saturation on espn creating numerous haters: check

seem pretty similar to me. it's probably all the religious crap that comes along with tebow.
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Biggest difference is Tebow was hyped big time in high school and college. No one gave Jeremy Lin a scholarship even though he led his high school to 64-3 record while upsetting power house Mater Dei in the championship. Jeremy also plays basketball where if you are a scrub, you simply won't make it.

What he did tonight as his 5th start is incredible. He got such confidence attacking the lane. That final shot was ice cold you know it was going in the sec it left his hand. It is simply Linsane!
 
Scoe said:
Its all about how well the pieces come together, it is amazing what difference a pg can make. I would like for this team to just leave the team the way it is and not make any major moves. In a weak eastern conference anything is possible I dont see this team beating Chicago or Miami in a 7 game series anyone else in the east is possible. This team needs to get above .500 first and not look back so at the moment it isnt even a discussion right now. Teams that win NBA titles usually have to overcome failure in the playoffs in past years.
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I just hope Boatright and Naiper watch some Jeremy Lin games. The biggest thing Jeremy has is his mental toughness. He keeps on playing hard no matter how many times they knocked him down.
 
The Rams Kurt Warner comparison is much better than Tebow. Warner went from packing groceries to the Super Bowl and soon Hall of Fame. Lin looks like an All Star PG. Tebow is a fluke, Lin is legit.

Tom Brady is another decent football comparison, Fernando Valenzuela is the best baseball comparison.
 
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hungry husky said:
BTW, even though he's a great player, he's a turnover machine!
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yeah but considering this is only his fifth career start,hes only 23 and is learning how to run an nba team he`s going to have turnovers but he`ll get better. scary to think what this kid will be in 5 years because i believe he is a legit big time pg.
 
TheChamps990411 said:
yeah but considering this is only his fifth career start,hes only 23 and is learning how to run an nba team he`s going to have turnovers but he`ll get better. scary to think what this kid will be in 5 years because i believe he is a legit big time pg.
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No doubt, cutting down those turnovers will make him into an even scarier player.
 
The best thing about Linsanity is that it brings attention to team offense. I hate they way the game has devolved to where you just dump the ball to some designated star and have him "create".
 
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