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ClifSpliffy said:
actually, it's less exciting, but don't take my word for. ask America.

NBA Finals television ratings - Wikipedia

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Read your own links please

“The 2015 NBA Finals between the Golden State Warriors and Cleveland Cavaliers was the highest rated NBA Final series on ABC averaging an 11.6 rating / 21 share and 19.94 million viewers. The 2017 NBA Finals featuring the same two teams was the most watched NBA Final series on ABC averaging an 11.3 rating / 22 share and 20.38 million viewers. Game 7 of the 2016 NBA Finals registered the network's highest rated and most watched NBA game with an average 15.8 rating / 29 share and 31.02 million viewers.[1] It was the first basketballgame to draw more than 30 million average viewers in 18 years, and only the seventh sports telecast (excluding NFL and Olympics) to have done so since 1998.[2]”
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Forget about Lebron for a second. When's the last time you actually watched an NBA game?
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I tried watching a Pelicans game last year. The only reason I watched was due to some fanball lineups I put in. I watched about half the game. Absolutely no defense, it was a seesaw battle, up and down scoring with terrible shooting percentages on wide open uncontested shots. Boring
 
FairwayFlyer said:
MJ took the opposite stand when he said Republicans and Democrats buy sneakers. In contrast, LeBron wore an "I can't breathe" shirt. He's also said he wouldn't go to The White House. Do you really think Michael would have done that or said that?
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I think reasonable people can disagree as to whether or not it’s a good thing that Michael Jordan would never in a million years have expressed an opinion about anything while he was playing.
 
B1GEast said:
I tried watching a Pelicans game last year. The only reason I watched was due to some fanball lineups I put in. I watched about half the game. Absolutely no defense, it was a seesaw battle, up and down scoring with terrible shooting percentages on wide open uncontested shots. Boring
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They play far better defense in the NBA than they do in college. The players are just exponentially better. College basketball is, by and large, dreck. But I don’t think you’re coming to your conclusion by consuming a lot of NBA basketball based on what you described. (Again, NBA players shoot the eyes out of the ball relative to college players.)
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
They play far better defense in the NBA than they do in college. The players are just exponentially better. College basketball is, by and large, dreck. But I don’t think you’re coming to your conclusion by consuming a lot of NBA basketball based on what you described. (Again, NBA players shoot the eyes out of the ball relative to college players.)
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You might be right about not watching enough NBA. That might be because my teams suck, the knicks and hawks.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Read your own links please

“The 2015 NBA Finals between the Golden State Warriors and Cleveland Cavaliers was the highest rated NBA Final series on ABC averaging an 11.6 rating / 21 share and 19.94 million viewers. The 2017 NBA Finals featuring the same two teams was the most watched NBA Final series on ABC averaging an 11.3 rating / 22 share and 20.38 million viewers. Game 7 of the 2016 NBA Finals registered the network's highest rated and most watched NBA game with an average 15.8 rating / 29 share and 31.02 million viewers.[1] It was the first basketballgame to draw more than 30 million average viewers in 18 years, and only the seventh sports telecast (excluding NFL and Olympics) to have done so since 1998.[2]”
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ur not well. 'on abc' 'nuff said.
 
He has something to say about everything and honestly if its not basketball related, I don't care about what he has to say.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I think reasonable people can disagree as to whether or not it’s a good thing that Michael Jordan would never in a million years have expressed an opinion about anything while he was playing.
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You missed my point entirely. I agree with you. The point has nothing to do with whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. The topic at hand is in regard to likeability. One who expresses his opinions is more likely to have a segment of people not like him than someone who does not express his opinion.
 
ClifSpliffy said:
ur not well. 'on abc' 'nuff said.
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Is that seriously supposed to be some retort? Good god 2 of the last 5 Finals averaged 20 million viewers. Game 7 of 2016 had 30 million, the most watched game ever, irrespective of network; 7th televised sporting event except NFL and the Olympics to reach that viewership.

And I'm the one who is "not well" LMAOOOO
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Is that seriously supposed to be some retort? Good god 2 of the last 5 Finals averaged 20 million viewers. Game 7 of 2016 had 30 million, the most watched game ever, irrespective of network; 7th televised sporting event except NFL and the Olympics to reach that viewership.

And I'm the one who is "not well" LMAOOOO
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'The highest rated and most watched NBA Final game was Game 6 of the 1998 NBA Finals which averaged a 22.3 rating / 38 share and 35.89 million viewers on Sunday night.'
here, have a cookie.
 
This is pretty good...even by ‘yard standards. Several things:

You can say basketball players / actors / musicians “shouldn’t talk Politics” but then WTF should you be able to give your opinion? They’re certainly more successful and important than you.

Lebron ain’t no MJ.

Any reference to “no defense” being played in the NBA is like stamping an L on your forehead

I don’t think any rational person would call Lebron uneducated, unless you think that a certain way of speaking (a dialect essentially) equates to education.

I’d literally love to see every single person in this thread become worth several hundred million dollars supporting god knows how many people and charities give a shit about “China” or “Communism” (which has never actually existed anywhere in the world and certainly does not exist in modern day China).

Anecdotal story: a guy I used to work with grew up in Akron. Same age as LBJ. Knew him from rec leagues, basketball camps. 7th or 8th grade summer camp the other team puts their biggest kid on LBJ hoping he can slow him down. Kid is BIG, not as tall as LBJ but bigger. Kid basically assaults LBJ on a drive to the hoop. LBJ’s Mom and “Step Dad” (Step Dad was emphasized to me b/c the implication was that there were several over the years) run onto court and start hitting other kid, ref, other coach. Total shitshow.

Point being, a bunch of fat, boring white dudes from CT proly shouldn’t comment on things they don’t and never will understand.
 
One of the greatest to ever play the game... Can't stand him. It started with his attempt to buy championships in Miami. And from there he has embraced the bad guy role imo. Now from taco Tuesday to getting in the middle of his sons basketball games, to the ridiculous flopping, he annoys the crap out of me. He went from what appeared to be a humble kid to the stereotypical Superstar who speaks about himself in the third person type.

There is no denying the guys talent but can't stand the person.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Is that seriously supposed to be some retort? Good god 2 of the last 5 Finals averaged 20 million viewers. Game 7 of 2016 had 30 million, the most watched game ever, irrespective of network; 7th televised sporting event except NFL and the Olympics to reach that viewership.

And I'm the one who is "not well" LMAOOOO
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And of course none of this has to do with whether the game is exciting. The fact that more people wanted to watch Jordan’s "last" Finals has zero to do with whether the product now is better or not (which is obviously subjective--but yes, it is better now).

But of course we're dealing with a guy who worships someone for whom "ratings" mean everything. And will mischararacterize the "ratings" to his ends.

So I'm hardly surprised to see the shallow analysis.

It's like comparing the "ratings" of a critically acclaimed show on a cable network now vs some crap network show from the 80s and saying the network show was better because it had higher ratings.
 
casual-yardin said:
This is pretty good...even by ‘yard standards. Several things:

You can say basketball players / actors / musicians “shouldn’t talk Politics” but then should you be able to give your opinion? They’re certainly more successful and important than you.

Lebron ain’t no MJ.

Any reference to “no defense” being played in the NBA is like stamping an L on your forehead

I don’t think any rational person would call Lebron uneducated, unless you think that a certain way of speaking (a dialect essentially) equates to education.

I’d literally love to see every single person in this thread become worth several hundred million dollars supporting god knows how many people and charities give a # 2 about “China” or “Communism” (which has never actually existed anywhere in the world and certainly does not exist in modern day China).

Anecdotal story: a guy I used to work with grew up in Akron. Same age as LBJ. Knew him from rec leagues, basketball camps. 7th or 8th grade summer camp the other team puts their biggest kid on LBJ hoping he can slow him down. Kid is BIG, not as tall as LBJ but bigger. Kid basically assaults LBJ on a drive to the hoop. LBJ’s Mom and “Step Dad” (Step Dad was emphasized to me b/c the implication was that there were several over the years) run onto court and start hitting other kid, ref, other coach. Total shitshow.

Point being, a bunch of fat, boring white dudes from CT proly shouldn’t comment on things they don’t and never will understand.
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Boy you made a lot of friends with that finish lol. What a joke! People can express what they want and I'm sure there are many "fat white dudes" that know enough to express their opinion and more than you to top it off. Because that guy you used to work with gave you that story you suddenly know more than some fat white dudes. Worst post in the thread, nice job though making friends.
 
Wow some of you guys seem to know Lebron personally. I was only marveling his performance/skills at his age and his history of staying out of trouble. This is a man who really never had a childhood (think Michael Jackson), and always a public figure since his teens.

Didn't realize some of his unpopular decisions, opinions/statements and demonstrative on court reactions would sour basketball fans towards him. Even the word 'hate' has been used in this thread.

I wonder if he were to sit down with some of these posters for dinner and get to know him and his background, would their perception change?
 
nomar said:
The NBA has certainly evolved but I can live without watching jump hooks from oafy big guys. There’s plenty of room for athletic bigs who can play team D.

There are just so many athletes on the floor. Watching a Bucks-Mavs game is fun as hell.
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I don't know that I want the days of Billy Paultz back, but I wouldn't mind Hakeem, David Robinson, Shaq, Ewing in the middle.
 
Kitaman said:
Wow some of you guys seem to know Lebron personally. I was only marveling his performance/skills at his age and his history of staying out of trouble. This is a man who really never had a childhood (think Michael Jackson), and always a public figure since his teens.

Didn't realize some of his unpopular decisions, opinions/statements and demonstrative on court reactions would sour basketball fans towards him. Even the word 'hate' has been used in this thread.

I wonder if he were to sit down with some of these posters for dinner and get to know him and his background, would their perception change?
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Probably, but he wouldn't do that. Great player. Top 5 all time. But other than that I don't have any overly positive or negative views of him. I'm not going to give him extra credit for not getting arrested or beating anyone close to him. That should be expected. He's a prima dona, like many in the NBA.

I think I'm past viewing any ballplayer as a big deal.
 
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Deepster said:
I don't know that I want the days of Billy Paultz back, but I wouldn't mind Hakeem, David Robinson, Shaq, Ewing in the middle.
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Here's the thing. I think every single one of those guys would stand out in today's NBA. Except for Shaq, their games would be different. They'd all be shooting 3s. But they'd be great.

If Joel Embiid played 20 years ago, he would have been a star just like he is now -- only back then people would have been raving about his drop step and 15-foot baseline jumper.

Zion Williamson would have been a dominant back-to-the-basket player. This is a helluva lot more fun.

We haven't seen another Shaq because there just aren't 320-pound guys that agile who can just dominate everyone inside. But if another Shaq were to come along, his team would be more than happy to let him dominate inside on offense and patrol the paint.
 
nomar said:
Here's the thing. I think every single one of those guys would stand out in today's NBA. Except for Shaq, their games would be different. They'd all be shooting 3s. But they'd be great.

If Joel Embiid played 20 years ago, he would have been a star just like he is now -- only back then people would have been raving about his drop step and 15-foot baseline jumper.

Zion Williamson would have been a dominant back-to-the-basket player. This is a helluva lot more fun.

We haven't seen another Shaq because there just aren't 320-pound guys that agile who can just dominate everyone inside. But if another Shaq were to come along, his team would be more than happy to let him dominate inside on offense and patrol the paint.
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I just don't agree. I don't see Ewing or Olajuwon shooting 3's regularly. I don't think Zion would be a dominant back to the basket player and is dominating now in part because of much smaller, perimeter oriented frontcourts.

Does Giannis play the same game against a frontline of Mahorn, Rodman and Laimbeer?
 
Robertelamin said:
The way @Rocktheworld slobbers Lebron’s balls here is hilarious. He’s a great player but good lord
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Lmaooo thanks for the input Bobby. I’ll walk you back to the kids table; you can come back when you have something of substance to contribute. I’ll cut up your hot dog for you.
 
superjohn said:



Watch "Charles Barkley - The Beast" on YouTube
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Dominique was incredible, I agree. But the amount of athletes that jump just as high now, or higher even, is evident. For one, LeBron is the most physically gifted athlete I have ever seen. Then you have guys like Blake, Lavine, early Dwight, Aaron Gordon, heck even Gerald Green who absolutely fly.
 
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