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MilliniumPrince said:
Check the stats for Downtown Hartford. You will find fairly low crime rates across the board. The murder rate is off the charts, but rarely is it Downtown and rarely does it involve people who aren't in "the game".
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superjohn said:
I'll tell you something that has never helped Hartford, the suck attitude from the majority of CT. residents towards it's state capital. All I hear is the suburbanites talking about how the city has no redeeming qualities and is more dangerous than Fallujah. It's certainly one thing I've never missed since leaving Connecticut, the attitudes of so many residents is just piss poor. Instead of constantly bashing Hartford why not drive in and seek out some of the culture it offers and spend a little money to support it's merchants.
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Agree with this completely. The issue in CT is that everyone is separated into their 169 fiefdoms. The city of Hartford has to have the smallest area of any large (>1,000,000 person) metro area. If Hartford were in any other state, the city would include West Hartford, East Hartford, Windsor, Wethersfield, and so on. This means that many people in the suburbs view Hartford as separate from their own communities in that the city's problems aren't their problems. But the fact remains, for the success of the city plays a huge role in the strength of the metro area and the state.
 
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James said:
nothing exciting about this, wish they opened up a good burger spot like a burger fi or shake shack instead. It would do well with the lunch crowd as there is like 1 good quick sandwich spot downtown.
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Eh shake shack blows. Ok taste, but you pay out the nose for a burger the size of a chips ahoy.
 
August_West said:
Harriet Beecher Stowe house could upgrade with some craft Double IPAs and some brick oven pizza and we may be onto something .
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Funny you say that, but I always thought a 'Booze With Twain' exhibit at the MT House would have killed it.

EDIT: If they really went for it, they could even prop up a mummified MT in the bar stool next to you and you could share a drink with America's Philosopher in 2015. I'd do it in an instant.
 
August_West said:
It is ridiculous. I hate to say it, but Providence is light years ahead of Hartford. Not even close.
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Yup, outside of the drivers (who are terrors), the city has been become a really cool place to be. All the artist musician types who have been priced out of Boston have moved there.
 
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intlzncster said:
Funny you say that, but I always thought a 'Booze With Twain' exhibit at the MT House would have killed it.

EDIT: If they really went for it, they could even prop up a mummified MT in the bar stool next to you and you could share a drink with America's Philosopher in 2015. I'd do it in an instant.
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Great article about Hartford written last year around this time.
http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/12/go-to-hartford-young-man/383445/

Hard rock is a big nationally recognized name and hopefully it happens, but I'd rather see more affordable apartments in downtown vs a 1/2 used over priced hotel. This hotel would cut 150-300 new planned apts in the area. I mean the Raddison right next to ball park is turning empty hotel rooms into apts. Bring in a developer to create bottom floor retail like restaurants and bars and build the rest up with not super high end, but nice new studios and 1 bedrooms. Lots of kids/adults can't afford the 1200-1500 in just rent at some of the downtown apts. don't put up section 8, but build some 750-1200 a month places for college kids and adults still paying off student loans. We need more full time residents in downtown and not just visitors for a day or two.
 
ct06111 said:
Great article about Hartford written last year around this time.
http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/12/go-to-hartford-young-man/383445/

Hard rock is a big nationally recognized name and hopefully it happens, but I'd rather see more affordable apartments in downtown vs a 1/2 used over priced hotel. This hotel would cut 150-300 new planned apts in the area. I mean the Raddison right next to ball park is turning empty hotel rooms into apts. Bring in a developer to create bottom floor retail like restaurants and bars and build the rest up with not super high end, but nice new studios and 1 bedrooms. Lots of kids/adults can't afford the 1200-1500 in just rent at some of the downtown apts. don't put up section 8, but build some 750-1200 a month places for college kids and adults still paying off student loans. We need more full time residents in downtown and not just visitors for a day or two.
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And the shuttered Goodwin, which I have stayed in and liked, is also slated to reopen. With Hartford hotels still at less than 60% occupancy, the reopening of the 96-room Holiday Inn Express and the development of an 81-room Candlewood Suites, also near the new ball park, one has to wonder about the demand for even more hotel rooms, especially pricier ones.

http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-hartford-goodwin-hotel-future-20150831-story.html
 
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ct06111 said:
Great article about Hartford written last year around this time.
http://www.citylab.com/work/2014/12/go-to-hartford-young-man/383445/

Hard rock is a big nationally recognized name and hopefully it happens, but I'd rather see more affordable apartments in downtown vs a 1/2 used over priced hotel. This hotel would cut 150-300 new planned apts in the area. I mean the Raddison right next to ball park is turning empty hotel rooms into apts. Bring in a developer to create bottom floor retail like restaurants and bars and build the rest up with not super high end, but nice new studios and 1 bedrooms. Lots of kids/adults can't afford the 1200-1500 in just rent at some of the downtown apts. don't put up section 8, but build some 750-1200 a month places for college kids and adults still paying off student loans. We need more full time residents in downtown and not just visitors for a day or two.
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Itd be great but there is unfortunately just such a stigma attached that it will take something insane to happen where young professionals view Hartford as a viable place to live. Sure they'll go to City Steam and Black Bear but then they'll hustle back to their cars and go home to WeHa and Manchester. But you're spot on with pricing in apts in Hartford. I just moved to a 1Br in Glastonbury after hoping to find a place downtown. If you are going to rent in Hartford you are either paying 1500 for a studio/ 2k for a 1br downtown or you're in Section 8. Some nice places with comparable prices to Manchester/Newington/Rocky Hill would help to draw the 25yr old $55-65k a year crowd back in and do wonders for the city's image.
 
HarryAGampel said:
Agree with this completely. The issue in CT is that everyone is separated into their 169 fiefdoms. The city of Hartford has to have the smallest area of any large (>1,000,000 person) metro area. If Hartford were in any other state, the city would include West Hartford, East Hartford, Windsor, Wethersfield, and so on. This means that many people in the suburbs view Hartford as separate from their own communities in that the city's problems aren't their problems. But the fact remains, for the success of the city plays a huge role in the strength of the metro area and the state.
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Exactly. Hartford is 18 square miles. It's tiny in comparison to some cities close to Hartford in MSA population rankings. Louisville is 399 square miles. Indianapolis is 372 square miles. If Hartford were that size and including most of the surrounding suburbs, it would also have a population of 500-700 thousand or so.
 
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BoatShow said:
Itd be great but there is unfortunately just such a stigma attached that it will take something insane to happen where young professionals view Hartford as a viable place to live. Sure they'll go to City Steam and Black Bear but then they'll hustle back to their cars and go home to WeHa and Manchester. But you're spot on with pricing in apts in Hartford. I just moved to a 1Br in Glastonbury after hoping to find a place downtown. If you are going to rent in Hartford you are either paying 1500 for a studio/ 2k for a 1br downtown or you're in Section 8. Some nice places with comparable prices to Manchester/Newington/Rocky Hill would help to draw the 25yr old $55-65k a year crowd back in and do wonders for the city's image.
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$2000 for a one bedroom downtown is theft compared to Boston, New York or even Stamford. The issue is a healthy dose of jobs and high property taxes.
 
$2,000 for a one bedroom in Hartford seems a bit ridiculous, I've always thought the prices in Boston were pretty outrageous for the level of city you are getting but if the going rate for a 1 bedroom is $2,000 in Hartford that seems like a bit of thievery. We all know Hartford isn't a good city anymore, no milkman making deliveries, no Studebakers driving down the boulevard etc.
 
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Deepster said:
I love the comments about Hartford being a safe city and the sentiment that the worry over crime is foolish.

As of a month or two ago, Hartford had the most murders of the 9 largest cities in New England. As of September, Hartford had 24 murders and Boston had 23 (with a population 5X greater). Where the new park is going in? It's only a couple blocks before the neighborhood deteriorates rapidly. There was 3 murders this spring on Belden and Donald St which are 0.3-0.5 m away from where the new stadium is going. So you never felt scared walking from the Civic Center to the parking garage a block away? Doesn't mean Hartford isn't Murdertown.
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How many people going to and from Yard Goats games do you predict will be raped or murdered in the 1st year?
 
I looked at spectra and they were asking about a grand for >500sq ft
 
BoatShow said:
I looked at spectra and they were asking about a grand for >500sq ft
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That's pretty small. Plus you need to pay for parking somewhere. It all depends how much you like the amenities. The 2 bedroom for about $725 a person, with a roomate, has potential for some. Place looks pretty cool.
 
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PNC property group has lots of 1br below 2k for anyone really looking. The 55 Trumbull st properties are pretty nice. I've lived there and in main and Temple lofts before buying a home. I miss downtown. Its a great little city and is only getting better recently. We try to go back to our favorite spots once a month atleast.

downtown north is going to be laughed at the same way front st was by the outside commentators. Then it will open, be a hit, and spark more growth for downtown.
 
Any one remember Two Guys on the Berlin Turnpike? With that mini-bowling alley in the back? That was a store.
 
superjohn said:
$2,000 for a one bedroom in Hartford seems a bit ridiculous, I've always thought the prices in Boston were pretty outrageous for the level of city you are getting but if the going rate for a 1 bedroom is $2,000 in Hartford that seems like a bit of thievery. We all know Hartford isn't a good city anymore, no milkman making deliveries, no Studebakers driving down the boulevard etc.
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The thing is Hartford is having no problem filling those apartments. http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/art...of-newest-downtown-apts-outpaces-expectations One man's thievery is another man's home.

But downtown dwellers won't make the Hard Rock go. The key to the Hard Rock is that it is across from the ball park and one block from XL Center. Much if not most of its business will come suburbanites who are visiting the sports venues.
 
Palatine said:
The thing is Hartford is having no problem filling those apartments. http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/art...of-newest-downtown-apts-outpaces-expectations One man's thievery is another man's home.

But downtown dwellers won't make the Hard Rock go. The key to the Hard Rock is that it is across from the ball park and one block from XL Center. Much if not most of its business will come suburbanites who are visiting the sports venues.
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Is the Thomas Hooker brewery still a possibility? No, I haven't read any links above. The brewery could get people in, or have game fans stay longer while in the City. It's something.
 
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