OT-Former Coach Edsall Happy For Huskies Bowl Bid

[noeynox]

I like Dez, I think this board trolls him for no good reason, but if you really want to "move on", why write that article? I can't believe anyone here cares what Edsall thinks but I guess some do.

 

[The Viking]

Wonder if he hopes he gets a call if Diaco leaves in a year or two....

 

[Carl Spackler]

God almighty. Somebody kill this thread now. Execution style.

Stop feeding the Syracuse troll sports writer.

Syracuse sucks. Edsall didnot get sniffed for the job at Syracuse and he's sure as hellnnkmkkknnmnlm not coming back to uconn.

 

[uconndogs]

He left it awful and left awfully. Completely disagree.

Left us with no D1 QB and no OL prospects or O-Line. More than half the 2009 class just disappeared off the face of the earth. He cannot recruit. Convinced Todman to go pro because there was no O-Line left.

Then he leaves in the middle of the night like the Baltimore Colts. Sends a text message to the team then goes for his dream job.

Give me a break. Don't let the door hit you in the on the way out.

OL was in good shape P's first year. Ryan and Petrus were still in the mix. McCombs ran well behind a good run blocking line. There was no development after that and the blocking schemes were completely revamped. Bennett and Greene were good OL prospects. They were never developed and never hit the weight room the way they should have. There was even some decent skill position players in Ryan and Nick Williams. The defense was absolutely loaded and one of the best in the country in 2011 and certainly in 2012. Holes to fill? Sure. Shambles? No way.

The Todman comment is pure conjecture.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I was a bit disappointed after this thread got off to a slow start. But it's now picking up steam. Gonna pop the popcorn.

 

[whaler11]

I was a bit disappointed after this thread got off to a slow start. But it's now picking up steam. Gonna pop the popcorn.

Edsall left so much P but together back to back 5-7 seasons. When Edsall's players were mostly gone,- they were going to go 0-12 if not for a Cochran miracle in Philadelphia.

There are a lot of crazy ideas here - blaming Edsall for 2011-2013 is like claiming the moon landing was fake.

 

[Husky1964]

We might have avoided bad times if P had Robbie Frey and Cody Endres.

 

[HistoryMajor]

We might have avoided bad times if P had Robbie Frey and Cody Endres.

AND if we had never hired PPGDL

 

[Fishy]

We might have avoided bad times if P had Robbie Frey and Cody Endres.

Ah, no.

You need more rest.

 

[Pudge]

If Edsall had stayed past the Fiesta Bowl ... I feel that Robbie Frey would have been a priority of his; and, I would have loved seeing that kid play that year. And, there is no way Edsall would have been unprepared at QB & had Johnny McEntee the primary guy. Edsall, in my view, was a damn good manager of the entire roster. He developed all the components and he didn't find himself with weak OL or DL or one small RB.

Then: there's this time of year. Recruiting, I feel Diaco just has a far better reach across many of the markets we need. Edsall, often, was pushing the envelope - and he often won (see Darius Butler, HS QB, coming in so easily to be a CB). Maybe Terry Richardson. Many times, I thought he brought in a kid in January (at the end of the month before Signing Day) that he was really grabbing in the bargain bin. Diaco has a much more refined board & plan. Edsall = good for this Program's first years; Diaco = solid propects here in our 15th year. PP? No way no how.

 

[warbler1055]

If Edsall had stayed past the Fiesta Bowl ... I feel that Robbie Frey would have been a priority of his; and, I would have loved seeing that kid play that year. And, there is no way Edsall would have been unprepared at QB & had Johnny McEntee the primary guy. Edsall, in my view, was a damn good manager of the entire roster. He developed all the components and he didn't find himself with weak OL or DL or one small RB.

Then: there's this time of year. Recruiting, I feel Diaco just has a far better reach across many of the markets we need. Edsall, often, was pushing the envelope - and he often won (see Darius Butler, HS QB, coming in so easily to be a CB). Maybe Terry Richardson. Many times, I thought he brought in a kid in January (at the end of the month before Signing Day) that he was really grabbing in the bargain bin. Diaco has a much more refined board & plan. Edsall = good for this Program's first years; Diaco = solid propects here in our 15th year. PP? No way no how.

I still don't understand how I could be so wrong about PP. Coming from CT, PP had the support of most if not all of the HS coaches. He had the experiences and yet he bombed out.

 

[Bonehead]

I still don't understand how I could be so wrong about PP. Coming from CT, PP had the support of most if not all of the HS coaches. He had the experiences and yet he bombed out.

Open your eyes...

 

[NYUConn]

I still don't understand how I could be so wrong about PP. Coming from CT, PP had the support of most if not all of the HS coaches. He had the experiences and yet he bombed out.

Because you need more than to be able to recruit CT to compete in D1 football.

CT HS Football has made enormous strides in the last 10 years (look at the current national Defensive Player of the Year), but it's still not a top 4 recruiting state in the Northeast.

Even if HCPP could have recruited the best of CT (which he obviously couldn't) he needed more. He needed PA, NY, MD and NJ and he didn't have those connections anymore.

The fact that the administration touted his CT strengths as a rationale for the hire should have set off sirens everywhere.

 

[SubbaBub]

I still don't understand how I could be so wrong about PP. Coming from CT, PP had the support of most if not all of the HS coaches. He had the experiences and yet he bombed out.

Because regardless of your knowledge, experience, talent, or past results, you need to do the work to succeed consistently. That's not just football, that's life.

PP and friends thought they could spend a few years with low expectations coaching football they way they used to do it.

 

[Bonehead]

[QUOTE="
The fact that the administration touted his CT strengths as a rationale for the hire should have set off sirens everywhere.[/QUOTE]

1000%

 

[Adios]

At least the high school coaches got what they wanted. And saw what a colossal failure that was.

 

[NYUConn]

[QUOTE="
The fact that the administration touted his CT strengths as a rationale for the hire should have set off sirens everywhere.

1000%[/QUOTE]

I remember thinking that at the time. My exact thought when they started pushing the narrative that 'every HS coach in CT knew him' and 'he can keep the talent home' was, "Well that's not exactly a strong rationale to hire the guy."

But at the time I thought, "Hey this is a guy that coached Donovan McNab, Marvin Harrison and Dwight Freeney, maybe he knows a thing or two." So I gave the admin the benefit of the doubt.

Boy was I wrong.

 

[Bonehead]

At least the high school coaches got what they wanted. And saw what a colossal failure that was.

Next time they CTHSFCA gives a recommendation for our State University, go opposite.

 

[warbler1055]

There is no question that Jeff Hathaway messed up when he hired PP. PP ruined the program that I love. May be for all the reasons above, PP failed. In addition he did not have the energy nor the connection to the players. His OC GDL sucked big time. I was referring to the very beginning of the hire when I said I did not predict this colossal failure. In retrospect, UConn Hathaway would be better served had he listened to that millionaire from Greenwich.

 

[NYUConn]

There is no question that Jeff Hathaway messed up when he hired PP. PP ruined the program that I love. May be for all the reasons above, PP failed. In addition he did not have the energy nor the connection to the players. His OC GDL sucked big time. I was referring to the very beginning of the hire when I said I did not predict this colossal failure. In retrospect, UConn Hathaway would be better served had he listened to that millionaire from Greenwich.

Oh god yeah. Nobody associated with UConn from 2011-13 looks good except for Robert G. Burton.

 

[Waquoit]

PP had the support of most if not all of the HS coaches...

That was all about supporting one of their own, not supporting UConn. The CT HS coaches never supported UConn, sending kids out of state made them feel big-time. UConn was always something to be taken for granted. They used to kill JC when he was just getting started. Luckily JC was secure enough in what he was doing to ignore their BS.

 

[SubbaBub]

At the time the debate was experienced HC or roll the dice with another unknown. Since we weren't going to get an established star, that meant a retread of sorts.

The thinking was a safe choice maintains the success establishing the program as one with staying power. An unproven coach might turn the Edsall era into a freak event. We got the worst of both because JH was inexperienced in big time football and didn't have faith in the program's foundation.

2011 was a nom walk on QB away from another good season. 2012 would have also been pretty good with the continuity in place. 2013 would have been a step back instead of a disaster, and 2014 would not have been the 2-10 debacle.

That's my assumption with the pieces we had. If you want to assume the continuity of Oline play, then I think we would have made a bowl game every year and had a shot for a league title in either 2011 or 2012. But that's a lot to assume.

 

[Husky25]

His last two recruiting classes were a shambles. Difton etc Gonzo. Look back to see who stayed. We lost more than 50% of th 2009 team before we started. He had no QB and once he saw Nebrich against Louisville and his incoming O-line he was gone. Edsall left huge holes. Pasqualoni had no QB and was smart enough to find Whitmer.

I was a very big Edsall supporter on this board. I wish he would have stayed, but the team was a shambles when he left.

How he left was reprehensible.

Those are the facts - Todman is pure conjecture, but I would bet n it.

Not only do you confuse your pronouns, you are re-writing history. Once who saw Nebrich vs. Louisville? Former 'Coach" Pasqualoni? Nebrich was only at UConn for a single season and did not record a trackable statistic once the calendar turned to October. The Louisville game was on November 19. Edsall? He left the program a full 10 months prior. Also, a 165 lb. 3rd down scatback gained 1,150 yards behind that 2011 "no prospect" O-line. And speaking of prospects, Prospect + Development = Player. It is the job of the then current coaching staff to get his own players ready to step between the lines.

Your entire post- not just the Todman part - can't even be considered conjecture. By definition, conjecture is rooted in incomplete factual information. There is at least a minute possibility of it actually occurring. Your opinion is shaped by your own fictional narrative.

 

[husky10]

Not only do you confuse your pronouns, you are re-writing history. Once who saw Nebrich vs. Louisville? Former 'Coach" Pasqualoni? Nebrich was only at UConn for a single season and did not record a trackable statistic once the calendar turned to October. The Louisville game was on November 19. Edsall? He left the program a full 10 months prior.

I believe he is thinking of Michael Box starting in the Louisville game in 2010.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[NYUConn]

Not only do you confuse your pronouns, you are re-writing history. Once who saw Nebrich vs. Louisville? Former 'Coach" Pasqualoni? Nebrich was only at UConn for a single season and did not record a trackable statistic once the calendar turned to October. The Louisville game was on November 19. Edsall? He left the program a full 10 months prior. Also, a 165 lb. 3rd down scatback gained 1,150 yards behind that 2011 "no prospect" O-line. And speaking of prospects, Prospect + Development = Player. It is the job of the then current coaching staff to get his own players ready to step between the lines.

Your entire post- not just the Todman part - can't even be considered conjecture. By definition, conjecture is rooted in incomplete factual information. There is at least a minute possibility of it actually occurring. Your opinion is shaped by your own fictional narrative.

My favorite part is when he claims Edsall's last two recruiting classes were terrible. The classes that produced 4 NFL draft picks and multiple undrafted free agents including the No. 27 pick overall in Byron Jones.

 

[weyuo]

1000%

I remember thinking that at the time. My exact thought when they started pushing the narrative that 'every HS coach in CT knew him' and 'he can keep the talent home' was, "Well that's not exactly a strong rationale to hire the guy."

But at the time I thought, "Hey this is a guy that coached Donovan McNab, Marvin Harrison and Dwight Freeney, maybe he knows a thing or two." So I gave the admin the benefit of the doubt.

Boy was I wrong.[/QUOTE]
I was fooled into thinking P was the right guy by his resume of bowling at the Cuse and then running the D with the Cowboys. I wanted to give the guy a chance to recruit his way into a winning program but by year three it was obvious he didn't have the team prepared.

 

[rich1122]

Not only do you confuse your pronouns, you are re-writing history. Once who saw Nebrich vs. Louisville? Former 'Coach" Pasqualoni? Nebrich was only at UConn for a single season and did not record a trackable statistic once the calendar turned to October. The Louisville game was on November 19. Edsall? He left the program a full 10 months prior. Also, a 165 lb. 3rd down scatback gained 1,150 yards behind that 2011 "no prospect" O-line. And speaking of prospects, Prospect + Development = Player. It is the job of the then current coaching staff to get his own players ready to step between the lines.

Your entire post- not just the Todman part - can't even be considered conjecture. By definition, conjecture is rooted in incomplete factual information. There is at least a minute possibility of it actually occurring. Your opinion is shaped by your own fictional narrative.

I did mean Box not Nebrich - husky 10 correct.

He left no QB, no RB. McCombs had to play as a Freshman.

The last class of 2009 we lost Aiken Chambers Kinnard Osieki Gennerett Lopes Brandon Kenney Box Chambers Difton and Lang. There was Trevardo Friend Stephen an a couple of otheres. WE LOST 12 of 21 of Edsall's recruits. 2010 we got Byron Jones Geremy Davis and Smallwood. McCombs in there as well. We lost a ton more kids and then many never saw the field. No OL guys that stuck.

Compounded with the PP hire and this was bad. Real bad. Not saying no talent but the entire roster was completely misaligned and RE saw this and bolted as fast as he could. Whoever the next coach was he was left holding the bag. The best they could do was PP with that roster.

Todman should have waited. Edsall told him to go, I am convinced. Yes Jordan next year your QB will be Mike Box or Johnny McCentee. Maybe our new guys Mike Nebrich or Scott McCummings will be ready. Yes Jordan we have a good line but we can't throw 5 yards. The entire opponents defense will tackle you. Your numbers will be down go now.

We would have gone bowling if Edsall had stayed. We were good enough. Even with McCentee. The line was good enough then but he recruited nothing in the way of OL. A bunch of SO and FR, most who never saw the field. But, the mess he left was not felt until 2 or 3 years hence.

Please look at the 2011 and 2012 rosters and tell me what was left was good enough to field a decent team.


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[Husky25]

I see you finally learned how the Internet works. Good job. Three posts (in this thread) too late, it appears. Be that as it may, you neither help your case, nor credibility.

Good day, Sir.

 

[JMick]

I remember thinking that at the time. My exact thought when they started pushing the narrative that 'every HS coach in CT knew him' and 'he can keep the talent home' was, "Well that's not exactly a strong rationale to hire the guy."

But at the time I thought, "Hey this is a guy that coached Donovan McNab, Marvin Harrison and Dwight Freeney, maybe he knows a thing or two." So I gave the admin the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone always threw out the "Connecticut High School Coaches Support" but at least from my portion of the state, everyone hated the guy. All of the good coaches that I know hated PP and didn't know how he was given the head coaching position. Maybe it's fairfield county bias against the guy or something but everyone I spoke to had nothing nice to say about him - especially the people that worked with him when he was at West Conn