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OT - Duke Freshman opts out

XLCenterFan said:
You're too easily pissed off. What do you even mean that there's no "it?"
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from your quote "But it's not up to us, and it's definitely not OK for us to hold it against him." You've been on the - he's going to bail in favor of a better draft pick, he never plays for UConn again cause it's only about money, he's given in to his "people" - story line for weeks. and yeah, that pisses me off because i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
 
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If I was a player that had already moved on mentally, I'm not sure why I would stay with a team considering all the strict guidelines in place because of Corona. That's the biggest reason I never thought Bouk was done here, why would he submit to regular COVID testing and even travel with the team if he was done playing here?

Bouk has always been incredibly engaged on the bench, and he's even been practicing for a good bit now. I'm not sure why anybody is still floating the idea that he is done playing for UConn. He's awfully committed to a team that he's supposedly done playing for.
 
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87Xfer said:
from your quote "But it's not up to us, and it's definitely not OK for us to hold it against him." You've been on the - he's going to bail in favor of a better draft pick, he never plays for UConn again cause it's only about money, he's given in to his "people" - story line for weeks. and yeah, that pisses me off because i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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I’ve never been all aboard and completely sold on the fact that Bouk is leaving post-injury. I mentioned thats it’s a possibility snd that it wouldn’t surprise me. It’s looking like he’s going to come back, which I love. However, if he were to hold out for draft prospects - also known as a job, his real life and future - its not right for anyone here to whine and complain or hold it against him. That fair. These kids are basically forced to do at least a year of college ball anyways. That’s ridiculous.
 
superjohn said:
That's a strange takeaway considering they aren't being paid.
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They took a scholarship. They took a scholarship someone else could have had, and they had their teammates and coaches count on them instead of someone willing to honor the deal you make when you take a scholarship.

Do I think not paying high major players is right? No, I don’t. But your remedy is to go overseas or go to the G League or whatever we’re calling it. It’s not to make a commitment, take something for it and not honor it.,
 
I’m of the opinion that they don’t owe us, as fans, anything. As much as we may not like their decisions, it’s their life and their livelihoods they need to be considering and it’s easy for a bunch of couch potatoes to criticize.

That said, I DO believe they owe something to their teammates and their coaches, all of whom helped put them in the position they are in.
 
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When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Unless you are not that tough, then you give up and quit. If I was an NBA GM I would be a little hesitant to draft someone who quit on his teamates and coaches when the going got tough.
 
This is not surprising for a team, program, coach who has adopted the one and done model for aspiring NBA players.

When you take something innocent/pure in theory college sports and defile it by making it an unofficial training camp for the majors, this is what inevitably occurs: DEGRADATION.

Money, greed, and selfishness corrupts the masses. When you have a rat like K promoting such model what else do you expect.

PS: The one thing the NCAA had correctly determined was refusing to pay college athletes. Once they buckled and now making changes to allow players to directly profit while in school, the cat has been let out of the bag. Big mistake.
 
Clarke did the exact same thing but claimed it was due a season ending sprained ankle(I’m not kidding) while telling NBA front office people he was opting out. This is the modern era of college bb. If a player who’s projected to be drafted’s people don’t like the way the player is being used or are afraid of the player getting injured they just have the player quit.
 
UcannUconn said:
Clarke did the exact same thing but claimed it was due a season ending sprained ankle(I’m not kidding) while telling NBA front office people he was opting out. This is the modern era of college bb. If a player who’s projected to be drafted’s people don’t like the way the player is being used or are afraid of the player getting injured they just have the player quit.
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I think Clarke was run off the team by the fraudster Calpari. But Johnny boy shed some tears over it, god bless him.
 
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XLCenterFan said:
I’ve never been all aboard and completely sold on the fact that Bouk is leaving post-injury. I mentioned thats it’s a possibility snd that it wouldn’t surprise me. It’s looking like he’s going to come back, which I love. However, if he were to hold out for draft prospects - also known as a job, his real life and future - its not right for anyone here to whine and complain or hold it against him. That fair. These kids are basically forced to do at least a year of college ball anyways. That’s ridiculous.
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XLCenterFan said:
I would say yes. That’s a wrap. He’s a guaranteed draft pick. Unreal.
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businesslawyer said:
They took a scholarship. They took a scholarship someone else could have had, and they had their teammates and coaches count on them instead of someone willing to honor the deal you make when you take a scholarship.

Do I think not paying high major players is right? No, I don’t. But your remedy is to go overseas or go to the G League or whatever we’re calling it. It’s not to make a commitment, take something for it and not honor it.,
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I'm not a fan of kids cutting out on their teammates during the season for the NBA but it's weird you think you can glean how people would treat their jobs/last two weeks based on their posts in this thread.
 
businesslawyer said:
It’s very easy to tell from this thread who, once they knew they were taking another job, would keep busting their tail every day that they were being paid, and who would mail it in and keep taking the money without putting out full effort.
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There's a military term for mailing it in...........FIGMO.
 
Hey, it was tough decision, but he'll always have a special place in his heart for Duke. See below:

"I appreciate everything about my time at Duke," Johnson said in a Duke news release Monday night. "Coach (Mike Krzyzewski), my teammates and the program have been nothing but supportive throughout this season, especially during the rehab of my foot injury. My family, coach and I have made the decision that I should not play the remainder of this season so I can be 100 percent healthy in preparation for the NBA Draft."

In 13 games, Johnson averaged 11.2 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.2 assists.

"This was not easy but we feel it's best for my future," Johnson said. "I have nothing but love for the brotherhood and thank my teammates and everyone associated with the program. Duke will always have a special place in my heart and will always be a part of me."
 
Watchdog said:
Hey, it was tough decision, but he'll always have a special place in his heart for Duke. See below:

"I appreciate everything about my time at Duke," Johnson said in a Duke news release Monday night. "Coach (Mike Krzyzewski), my teammates and the program have been nothing but supportive throughout this season, especially during the rehab of my foot injury. My family, coach and I have made the decision that I should not play the remainder of this season so I can be 100 percent healthy in preparation for the NBA Draft."

In 13 games, Johnson averaged 11.2 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.2 assists.

"This was not easy but we feel it's best for my future," Johnson said. "I have nothing but love for the brotherhood and thank my teammates and everyone associated with the program. Duke will always have a special place in my heart and will always be a part of me."
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What a quitter..also when did espn/fake news make it a thing for them to be called the brotherhood? I don’t remember that during the crying days of Scheyer, Paulus, McBob, etc...is it about 5-6 years old ?
 
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Took a quick look at four mocks that have been updated in the past week. Johnson was projected as going anywhere from 6-11, with a composite of 8. Far from a lottery pick but a nice monied neighborhood.

For comparison, Bouk was projected 9-20, with a composite of 15.

The difference between 8 and 15 over the course of a rookie contract is in the neighborhood of $10 mill.

I mention Bouk here as I'm wondering if Johnson's decision may actually influence Bouk's return as Bouk's stock can only rise if he returns while Johnson's falls.

And as far as quitting, why hasn't a guy like Ziaire Williams done so? Stanford basically has no shot at making the 2nd weekend, and maybe not even the first. Williams is a likely top 7 pick. Maybe it's that Stanford education ;-)
 
I’m not a fan of this move, however you got a coach who caved to the corona bro’s in the media saying we shouldn’t be playing in a pandemic rather then fighting for your kids how do you think the players are gonna feel.
 
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XLCenterFan said:
If Bouk "opted out" I wouldn't hold it against him. These are these kids lives, not ours. Get off your pedestals.
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Yeah nice lesson learned accepting the scholly then quitting on your team? Please no pedestal here this just isn’t right in any sense.
 
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