Well, truth has absolutely nothing to do with telling other people what they should or shouldn’t enjoy! Unintelligent arrogance, yes. Truth, no.Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.
Well, truth has absolutely nothing to do with telling other people what they should or shouldn’t enjoy! Unintelligent arrogance, yes. Truth, no.Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow.
Don't believe @Waquoit was telling you what you should or should not enjoy.Well, truth has absolutely nothing to do with telling other people what they should or shouldn’t enjoy! Unintelligent arrogance, yes. Truth, no.
By that logic they should get rid of the offside call in US football as well. Why penalize the offense for just the slightest twitch of a hand that I can't even see when I'm up in the nosebleeds?Needs better rules. The "offsides" rule is totally ridiculous. If you're fast enough and clever enough to get behind the defense and score a goal, so be it! Why penalize faster players? Why split hairs about whether a player was a fraction of an inch ahead of the defensive player before scoring a goal? For that matter, why penalize the offensive player at all? The most exciting play in American football is "the bomb": One player running fast enough downfield and outsprinting the defense to score a touchdown. Why is that not permitted in soccer? Dumb rule that slows down the game, reduces scoring, and makes it more boring than it should be.
' The "offsides" rule is totally ridiculous.'Needs better rules. The "offsides" rule is totally ridiculous. If you're fast enough and clever enough to get behind the defense and score a goal, so be it! Why penalize faster players? Why split hairs about whether a player was a fraction of an inch ahead of the defensive player before scoring a goal? For that matter, why penalize the offensive player at all? The most exciting play in American football is "the bomb": One player running fast enough downfield and outsprinting the defense to score a touchdown. Why is that not permitted in soccer? Dumb rule that slows down the game, reduces scoring, and makes it more boring than it should be.
Needs better rules. The "offsides" rule is totally ridiculous. If you're fast enough and clever enough to get behind the defense and score a goal, so be it! Why penalize faster players? Why split hairs about whether a player was a fraction of an inch ahead of the defensive player before scoring a goal? For that matter, why penalize the offensive player at all? The most exciting play in American football is "the bomb": One player running fast enough downfield and outsprinting the defense to score a touchdown. Why is that not permitted in soccer? Dumb rule that slows down the game, reduces scoring, and makes it more boring than it should be.
Well the offside law is actually a pretty good idea. It's not really being implemented very well with VAR now though (but that's a whole other issue). The idea behind it is to prevent goal hanging. Without it football would just descend into a bunch of big tall attackers surrounded by a bunch of big tall defenders with each team punting long balls into the box hoping something happens.' The "offsides" rule is totally ridiculous.'
this. 1000% this.
ok, perfect opportunity for a teaching moment, as in 'can one of youse futbolistas here explain to me the logic for this offsides stuff in goal sports?'
i don't like it, but at least i can understand why in beisbol, bunting a ball foul with 2 strikes is an automatic out, while batting a ball foul with 2 strikes is not. a time thing as i figger it, with the idea being that it's far easier to bunt ball after ball foul, and at bats could go on forever. i don't think that's true (why has bunting become sort of a lost art today in the pros? mebbe it's actually hard?), but i get it.
obviously, in real manly man football, being offside when the ball is dead makes complete sense in not giving anyone an advantage.
dead ball.
so why, in goal sports, is live ball offsides a thing? i don't get it.
so, the player is faster, smarter, or mebbe luckier, and gets behind enemy lines, but becuz the ball/puck/whatever is behind him, he gets a penalty for being better?
won't all goal sports be better with more offense, as the viewer is less likely to experience, so common in those games, where after watching for hours, they miss a 20 second moment when a goal happens, yet they had to answer the phone, turn down the temp on a roast, or head into the bedroom to make sure that their dopey dog isn't chewing up another pair of shoes?
long stretches of nothing happening only belongs in fishing and hunting, cuz when something good finally happens, at least u can eat it.
i don't get it.
i hang up and listen, and please, no phd dissertations or lengthy beagle briefs that can be mind numbingly boring.
that's my job. lol.
Well the offside law is actually a pretty good idea. It's not really being implemented very well with VAR now though (but that's a whole other issue). The idea behind it is to prevent goal hanging. Without it football would just descend into a bunch of big tall attackers surrounded by a bunch of big tall defenders with each team punting long balls into the box hoping something happens.
Also, the offside law does nothing to prevent a faster, smarter player from using that advantage to score goals. It's actually decidedly to the advantage of quicker faster, smarter players...rather than big behemoths who just hang out around the goal area waiting for the ball. Attackers do get in behind the defense quite often, they just have to be smart enough (timing their runs) or faster to do it.
There certainly could be some tweaks to the offside law to create more offense. I personally would like to see the attacker have to be completely in an offside position, instead of just a partial head, torso, foot as it is now. Make it easier to time the runs.
A couple things about scoring. There are more to watching/enjoying sports than scoring. There isn't scoring on every play in gridiron football. What about a sack, an interception? What about a 22 yd sweep? A 3 and 12 and they get a 1st down? Those can be exciting.
Secondly, you just get more points for scoring in gridiron, 6 instead of 1. Plus you can get extra points and points for not actually getting into the endzone. Does 21-14 or 14-7 sound better than 3-2 or 2-1?
Association Football, Gridiron Football, Rugby Football, Australian Rules Football, are all forms of Football. They have many, many similarities.
thanks for the attempt, but i still don't get it. somehow, resting on 'big tall attackers' hanging around the goal as the thing to avoid sounds weak. and yet 'faster, smarter attackers' are good and to be rewarded?Well the offside law is actually a pretty good idea. It's not really being implemented very well with VAR now though (but that's a whole other issue). The idea behind it is to prevent goal hanging. Without it football would just descend into a bunch of big tall attackers surrounded by a bunch of big tall defenders with each team punting long balls into the box hoping something happens.
Also, the offside law does nothing to prevent a faster, smarter player from using that advantage to score goals. It's actually decidedly to the advantage of quicker faster, smarter players...rather than big behemoths who just hang out around the goal area waiting for the ball. Attackers do get in behind the defense quite often, they just have to be smart enough (timing their runs) or faster to do it.
There certainly could be some tweaks to the offside law to create more offense. I personally would like to see the attacker have to be completely in an offside position, instead of just a partial head, torso, foot as it is now. Make it easier to time the runs.
A couple things about scoring. There are more to watching/enjoying sports than scoring. There isn't scoring on every play in gridiron football. What about a sack, an interception? What about a 22 yd sweep? A 3 and 12 and they get a 1st down? Those can be exciting.
Secondly, you just get more points for scoring in gridiron, 6 instead of 1. Plus you can get extra points and points for not actually getting into the endzone. Does 21-14 or 14-7 sound better than 3-2 or 2-1?
Association Football, Gridiron Football, Rugby Football, Australian Rules Football, are all forms of Football. They have many, many similarities.
Needs better rules. The "offsides" rule is totally ridiculous.
I know this sounds picky, but it's "offside", not "offsides". Sorry just a pet peeveok, perfect opportunity for a teaching moment, as in 'can one of youse futbolistas here explain to me the logic for this offsides stuff in goal sports?'
Obviously.thanks for the attempt, but i still don't get it. somehow,
1. I didn't denigrate any group.. somehow, resting on 'big tall attackers' hanging around the goal as the thing to avoid sounds weak. and yet 'faster, smarter attackers' are good and to be rewarded?
why one phenotype should be denigrated while another phenotype is to be 'approved?' we're not all the same physically, and rules preventing certain of us not to use that to our advantage in a game makes no sense. that is categorically not how reality works. it's a jungle out there.
once upon a time, hoops banned dunking for only one reason, Kareem Abdul Jabbar. they thought that he was too tall with skilz. dumb. and now, gone from the rule book.
in fact, it's mostly a feature, and not a bug in that game to be one of those unusually gifted giant humans who can stand near the hoop, and dunk it down. often, those speedy smart types of shorter players get near the hoop, only to have one of those giants send the shot into the seats. the shorties are forced to be better, faster, craftier.
Oh Mdoggie, I have bad news for you. In 15-20 years the world's game will be football, not fútbol. The NFL is marketing internationally. See article below about Maria Rodriguez with the Pittsburgh Steelers and her role in the spread of the NFL fútbol americano. Actually a cool story about a kid from Honduras who attends TCU and gets hooked on sports. She gets an internship with the Steelers at just the right time with the right linguistic skills, personality, work ethic, smarts, etc.I’ve read on the yard a few people talking down about “the beautiful game”. Come on people, get with it. The world can’t have it wrong.
Bad news for you SVC, basketball has a better chance at displacing fútbol as the worlds game before football ever will. However I don’t believe either will happen. The beautiful game reigns supreme!Oh Mdoggie, I have bad news for you. In 15-20 years the world's game will be football, not fútbol. The NFL is marketing internationally. See article below about Maria Rodriguez with the Pittsburgh Steelers and her role in the spread of the NFL fútbol americano. Actually a cool story about a kid from Honduras who attends TCU and gets hooked on sports. She gets an internship with the Steelers at just the right time with the right linguistic skills, personality, work ethic, smarts, etc.
I touched on this early on, but I feel the need to repeat myself. So, in Ice Hockey, there is a Blue Line. This is to prevent goal hangers. The player with the puck has to be the first one in the zone. (oversimplified) Indoor Soccer has adopted this rule, the outdoor offside rule wouldn't work. In Basketball, you could choose to have a basket hanger, but that would leave you vulnerable on defense, and it would take long, accurate, difficult passes to take advantage.thanks for the attempt, but i still don't get it. somehow, resting on 'big tall attackers' hanging around the goal as the thing to avoid sounds weak. and yet 'faster, smarter attackers' are good and to be rewarded?
'im an offensive sort of person.' lol.
Yes! There was short clip titled, "The Origin of Flopping."Wasn't there a short clip many years ago when Muggsy Bogues (about 5 '+, 130 lbs)
charged into Tree Rollins (about 7', 250 lbs) and Tree fell back about 10 feet?
Tree RotWasn't there a short clip many years ago when Muggsy Bogues (about 5 '+, 130 lbs)
charged into Tree Rollins (about 7', 250 lbs) and Tree fell back about 10 feet?