OT- Brittney Griner NBA

[prankster]

We are not talking about DT3 playing horse or a 3 pt contest. We are talking about her playing BOTH ends the court.
Taurasi couldn't handle playing against NBA guards. She is not quick enough or athletic enough. Could she get a shot off-maybe if someone screened for her. But if the NBA guys dig in she would be locked down by the average NBA defender.

And defensively forget it. She isn't staying let alone stopping anyone. Again just not athletic enough or strong enough.

On average.....considering two "average" NBA guards....

KO vs DT....

How does that play out?

Anyone have any thoughts?

You're welcome!

 

[BearJWS]

We are not talking about DT3 playing horse or a 3 pt contest. We are talking about her playing BOTH ends the court.
Taurasi couldn't handle playing against NBA guards. She is not quick enough or athletic enough. Could she get a shot off-maybe if someone screened for her. But if the NBA guys dig in she would be locked down by the average NBA defender.

And defensively forget it. She isn't staying let alone stopping anyone. Again just not athletic enough or strong enough.

Never said she would be a defensive player in the NBA. She would be coming off the bench against 2nd & 3rd stringers, but her speed is not that much less than say a JJ Barea or Steve Blake or Chris Duhon or Chris Quinn. And you know what? She can pass it & shoot it better than any of those guys. And you forget, NBA defenses wouldn't be keying in on her. All she would need to do is nail the open jump shot & make some pass, which she can do 100x times better than these guys. If you think an NBA team is going to go to a Blake, Duhon or Quinn to win a game with Taursi guarding them, think again.

 

[tzznandrew]

I don't believe she is on par with them in speed. Certainly not in lateral quickness.

Also, strength is important...she'd never get into the lane.

 

[Hoophound]

This is embarrassing.

 

[BearJWS]

I don't believe she is on par with them in speed. Certainly not in lateral quickness.

Also, strength is important...she'd never get into the lane.

Strength is important if you're playing 30+ minutes, but if you're playing 5-10 minutes against 2nd or 3rd stringers with several other pretty good NBA players on your team, it's not as important. Would you rather Duhon or Quinn or Blake to hit that open shot instead Taursi? John Paxson & Steve Kerr played many years in the NBA as slow, short, unathletic, defensive liability guards in the NBA, but they could still nail it if left open. That's all I'm saying.

 

[tzznandrew]

I think you are severely underplaying both the talent levels of those who you named as well as the rigors of even playing 5-10 minutes against 2nd and 3rd stringers.

These guys would eat her lunch. She couldn't stop my 6'0" friend who didn't even play college ball back in 2004...

 

[Calhoun's Court]

On average.....considering two "average" NBA guards....

KO vs DT....

How does that play out?

Anyone have any thoughts?

You're welcome!

You are not serious are you?

No way DT3 could consistantly score on an "Average " NBA guard. She would get schooled by an NBA guard. And she couldn't guard women in college let alone an NBA guy.

 

[Calhoun's Court]

Never said she would be a defensive player in the NBA. She would be coming off the bench against 2nd & 3rd stringers, but her speed is not that much less than say a JJ Barea or Steve Blake or Chris Duhon or Chris Quinn. And you know what? She can pass it & shoot it better than any of those guys. And you forget, NBA defenses wouldn't be keying in on her. All she would need to do is nail the open jump shot & make some pass, which she can do 100x times better than these guys. If you think an NBA team is going to go to a Blake, Duhon or Quinn to win a game with Taursi guarding them, think again.

Go down to Rucker park in NYC and just watch.........those guys would shut her down let alone amn NBA guy.

They are not playing zone. They are playing man to man. Who is she beating off the dribble. Like i saod could she shake lose for a jumper-maybe. But these guys are not going to let DT3 stand around and shoot jumpers.

 

[Calhoun's Court]

NM

 

[BearJWS]

I think you are severely underplaying both the talent levels of those who you named as well as the rigors of even playing 5-10 minutes against 2nd and 3rd stringers.

These guys would eat her lunch. She couldn't stop my 6'0" friend who didn't even play college ball back in 2004...

Ok, put her on the Heat... 20 second left in the game. LeBron & Wade are on the court... They are double teamed... would you rather pass to Duhon or Quinn or Taursi for an open jump shot? Hell, I'd take KML over those guys for an open shot. That is my point, a specialist. Duhon or Quinn offer nothing as NBA players, especially Duhon. He shouldn't be in the league. This is the way a female makes a team because she has to do something exceptionally well. IF you want Duhon & Quinn, you can have them...

 

[prankster]

This thread was about women players, in the NBA (specifically Griner....but somehow morphing into DT and her ability to match up in the NBA).

I thought I would cut to the chase....and discuss a 13 year journeyman NBA guard (read "average guard" in the NBA), matching up, head to head with a (the?) top WNBA guard....

And I would spot the age difference...and still see her being schooled, all day long

You're welcome!

 

[Calhoun's Court]

This thread was about women players, in the NBA (specifically Griner....but somehow morphing into DT and her ability to match up in the NBA).

I thought I would cut to the chase....and discuss a 13 year journeyman NBA guard (read "average guard" in the NBA), matching up, head to head with a (the?) top WNBA guard....

And I would spot the age difference...and still see her being schooled, all day long

You're welcome!

I agree KO would school her(I thought you were saying that she would school KO).

 

[superjohn]

Bear JWS, you have to be kidding, it's just not possible for someone to be this dumb. My head hurts from reading this nonsense, there is no way Taurasi could play men's college ball and you think she could play for the Heat. Who is Quinn? If you're talking about Chris Quinn he plays overseas, another place where Taurasi would have zero chance of playing against the men. There are thousands of guys over there that are better than her too.

 

[DrewDog85]

Never said she would be a defensive player in the NBA. She would be coming off the bench against 2nd & 3rd stringers, but her speed is not that much less than say a JJ Barea or Steve Blake or Chris Duhon or Chris Quinn. And you know what? She can pass it & shoot it better than any of those guys. And you forget, NBA defenses wouldn't be keying in on her. All she would need to do is nail the open jump shot & make some pass, which she can do 100x times better than these guys. If you think an NBA team is going to go to a Blake, Duhon or Quinn to win a game with Taursi guarding them, think again.

You are crazy

 

[kcc1442]

I hope you are joking here, if not you are completely clueless. She couldn't play on a MAAC team, my buddy was a very good D3 player and he was coaching a high school team a couple of years removed from college and Taurasi came to his school to meet with the kids right after she graduated UConn. I asked him if he could beat Taurasi and he said yes, he isn't one to brag at all or use hyperbole. Saying scholarship men's players at MAAC schools suck just shows a total lack of knowledge on the subject, any guy playing D1 is really freaking good. Meanwhile our lady Huskies look awesome right now!

To add to this point, my brother played on the UCONN womens "guys" practice squad. Its a bunch of students who practice against the girls everyday. I frequently asked him how good they are comparable to us and he said that the men's student squad made up of mostly mediocre to above average high school basketball players would frequently beat them bad. He said there was a huge discrepancy from the likes of Maya Moore and the end of the bench. Saying that Maya could typically hang with her skill (although frequently guarded by a 5'10 white boy) but the biggest difference he said was obviously what everyone assumes the physicality and speed. Many of them were very skilled with the ball but were weak and could be pushed around easily...He said that his senior basketball team would have routinely beat them by 20 in a standard game. Now that team had a kid go to Notre Dame on a full scholarship but the average men HS team would be around their level of competition.............NBA'ers would run laps around average men's HS teams.........

 

[BearJWS]

Bear JWS, you have to be kidding, it's just not possible for someone to be this dumb. My head hurts from reading this nonsense, there is no way Taurasi could play men's college ball and you think she could play for the Heat. Who is Quinn? If you're talking about Chris Quinn he plays overseas, another place where Taurasi would have zero chance of playing against the men. There are thousands of guys over there that are better than her too.

News flash Chris Quinn is in the NBA. He was signed by Cleveland recently. He's slow, he can't defend, he has a so-so shot, he has no handle. I'll take my chances with Taursi when I need a bucket over some guy who can't dribble, shoot, defend or pass. All I need her to do is make an open shot. That's it. You guys are mistaken for me thinking she would be an all league player. I just need her to make an open shot, which many guys in the NBA cannot do. A specialist. That's it.

 

[mauconnfan]

In my opinion, the only women's player who could make the NBA is a highly skilled guard with NBA height. She's has to be able to shoot very well & handle the ball very well. I think Diana Taurasi is the only one who could fit the build. She's got the handle, shooting ability & savvy. Plus she's got the killer instinct. She plays like a guy. That said, she'd be a specialist in the NBA. Not saying she would be a star, but a role player. At 6'0" she could probably handle checking someone like John Lucas. Defensively, it would be a challenge for Dianna. But on offensive end, Dianna could make a lot of guys look bad...

Please.....she could play Divy 3 mens hoops maybe, don't push it - NO SHOT!! Ridiculous thought and Diana is the best to me!!

 

[mauconnfan]

News flash Chris Quinn is in the NBA. He was signed by Cleveland recently. He's slow, he can't defend, he has a so-so shot, he has no handle. I'll take my chances with Taursi when I need a bucket over some guy who can't dribble, shoot, defend or pass. All I need her to do is make an open shot. That's it. You guys are mistaken for me thinking she would be an all league player. I just need her to make an open shot, which many guys in the NBA cannot do. A specialist. That's it.

News flash, you need to get a grip on reality!...you need to be open to make that open shot. She couldn't get open! Love her but imagine her being guarded by Rajan Rondo!!

 

[BearJWS]

News flash, you need to get a grip on reality!

Whatever, you can think what you want. I think if there is a woman to make the NBA, Taursi has the best shot because she can shoot, handle and pass. I don't think Griner can make it. You guys are too fixated on her playing against starters & being a focal point. If you want Chris Quinn or Chris Duhon on your team, so be it.

 

[msgordon]

bear u cant be serious bro. quinn looks 'slow, unathletic, no handle' because he plays in the fckn NBA. now imagine what taurasi would look like. speed not much worse than barea or duhon? thats some of the dumbest ive ever heard. barea played 25 mpg+ in a finals win against the fckin heat, pretty sure hes got some speed

 

[whaler11]

I played personally with a good amount of the UConn women's stars from the early to mid 90's. Some of them were surprisingly good in pick up games. I went to a Division III school and played against plenty of D-III players... Big stars in women's D-I would top out as role players in men's D-III.

At some point the state needs a game between UConn women's alumni and men's D-III CSU alumni. You could raise a ton of money for a charity and break every CPTV ratings record.

 

[superjohn]

This Bear JWS guy has to be a troll, there is no way somebody can be this disconnected from reality.

 

[whaler11]

Bear - if Taurasi could play in the NBA... then why doesn't she play international men's basketball? It pays about 1000x better than the WNBA.

 

[kcc1442]

News flash Chris Quinn is in the NBA. He was signed by Cleveland recently. He's slow, he can't defend, he has a so-so shot, he has no handle. I'll take my chances with Taursi when I need a bucket over some guy who can't dribble, shoot, defend or pass. All I need her to do is make an open shot. That's it. You guys are mistaken for me thinking she would be an all league player. I just need her to make an open shot, which many guys in the NBA cannot do. A specialist. That's it.

So first off when does having a "NBA" career 38% 3PT shooting percentage constitute a so-so shot......That's with 6'8 SF 5 times faster, quicker and stronger than Bgriner jumping out at you to get a hand OVER your head after ball rotation and help D........Secondly do you even watch the NBA or just keep up with the transaction wire...."many NBA guys can't make an open shot?" ......really? really? when you wake up in the morning to take your morning , they wake up take 150 shots.....your on the way to work they are taking more shots, you eat lunch, they finish lunch and head back to taking another 200 open jumpers.....cuz thats what they do for a living.....The shots that you see or may be blasphemously speaking of are ......40 minutes into the game after they have been chasing Kobe around on defense, after the ball has been reversed 4 times (in 18 seconds because thats all the time they have on the shot clock by the time the ball gets to the front court) because there isn't the tightest of windows to get an off balance fadeaway off without the ball getting spiked into the 3rd row by a freak of an athlete....and MANY if not all of them shoot consistenly well from inside their ranges......CUZ if not THEY GET DROPPED because there is another MAN whether DLEAGUE or OVER SEAS that will make those shots, in whats known for being the most competitive professional sports job markets in the world........Your argument is a joke right??

 

[BearJWS]

So first off when does having a "NBA" career 38% 3PT shooting percentage constitute a so-so shot......That's with 6'8 SF 5 times faster, quicker and stronger than Bgriner jumping out at you to get a hand OVER your head after ball rotation and help D........Secondly do you even watch the NBA or just keep up with the transaction wire...."many NBA guys can't make an open shot?" ......really? really? when you wake up in the morning to take your morning , they wake up take 150 shots.....your on the way to work they are taking more shots, you eat lunch, they finish lunch and head back to taking another 200 open jumpers.....cuz thats what they do for a living.....The shots that you see or may be blasphemously speaking of are ......40 minutes into the game after they have been chasing Kobe around on defense, after the ball has been reversed 4 times (in 18 seconds because thats all the time they have on the shot clock by the time the ball gets to the front court) because there isn't the tightest of windows to get an off balance fadeaway off without the ball getting spiked into the 3rd row by a freak of an athlete....and MANY if not all of them shoot consistenly well from inside their ranges......CUZ if not THEY GET DROPPED because there is another MAN whether DLEAGUE or OVER SEAS that will make those shots, in whats known for being the most competitive professional sports job markets in the world........Your argument is a joke right??

My argument is that if there was a woman to make an NBA team it would be someone like Taursi, for the reasons I've mentioned numerous times already. It wouldn't be for defense, it wouldn't be for rebounding, it would be for like 5 minutes, it would be to make an open shot when surrounded by other good player. I've said numerous times, she would be a specialist 2nd-3rd stringer. Totally missing my point. It would be someone like Tauris who could make the team over somoene like Griner. You guys are getting too bend out of shape over it. It's hypothetical. I think her shooting is better than some other slow guys in the NBA. That's it. If you want to get all pissy about it, then so be it.