No clue what J was referring to, but I am fairly certain the next calculation will be in 2016 and 930 will be the required score for the years 2013, 2014. 2015, and 2016. I could be wrong, though. The NCAA isn't exactly the easiest organization to follow. Still, even if it 2015, I don't think we'll have an issue getting to 930.
OT: Brandon Austin suspended for season
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The kid's GPA for his 1 semester at PC is public knowledge???
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If PC is at full scholarship (13 players) then the numbers are out of 52. Each player counts for 4 points.
If he transferred with less than a 2.6 GPA, PC should be out at least 3 points for him, but theoretically they could be out 4 points since he didn't return for the spring or next fall. They need an exemption for next fall. All players are worth 4 points.
So, if every other player on the team fulfills his commitments in the next year (hard to do, to maintain a perfect score) Austin alone would dock PC for at least 3 points (which is a 942) if he has less than a 2.6 GPA. The APR is crazy that one player could get you to the brink. This is why I expect players to be expelled rather than suspended in the future. By expelling them, you maintain your APR.
Since the players committed no criminal violation, I am going to assume it was either drugs or academic violations. If it's drugs, PC's administration is draconian (PSU has been known to suspend players for a year for 2 alcohol offenses). At Syracuse, for instance, everyone just has a laugh about it. If it's academics however, a suspension makes sense these days. Players are no longer expelled for academic misadventures. nonetheless, an academic screwup would dent your GPA.
Not even close, upstater, in terms of what he did. We know he was not arrested. We don't know that he is innocent. finally, he was not suspended from school. Just from playing basketball games. He was invited back for second semester as a scholarship athlete.
That calculation makes no sense at all. How can a player count for 2 points at one school during a semester where he is attending another school? If Austin is at Oregon and is attaining requirements there as a scholarship athlete, doesn't he count for 2 points for Oregon? Yet at the same time, he is losing points for PC?
When Sidiki Johnson left Arizona, he didn't cost them during the spring semester. I doubt Austin costs us the 2 points next semester as long as he transfers with the minimum 2.6. So is Eric Murphy costing Duke 3 points?
That calculation makes no sense at all. How can a player count for 2 points at one school during a semester where he is attending another school? If Austin is at Oregon and is attaining requirements there as a scholarship athlete, doesn't he count for 2 points for Oregon? Yet at the same time, he is losing points for PC?
When Sidiki Johnson left Arizona, he didn't cost them during the spring semester. I doubt Austin costs us the 2 points next semester as long as he transfers with the minimum 2.6. So is Eric Murphy costing Duke 3 points?
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Welcome to the NCAA's line of thinking.
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I'm pretty sure the waiver would be granted for those two points in regards to the second semester.
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That's how the calculation is made. It's per scholarship per year broken down by semester.
How do you get to 52 points with 13 players?
It can't be done unless they count for 4 points.
PC will lose 1 point for each of his next 2 semesters on the good standing principle if his GPA is under 2.6. It will also lose at least 1 point for him not returning in the spring. I'll say this again: the NCAA double counts so as to credit schools like Kentucky for bogus metrics. The biggest sin is transferring with a sub 2.6 GPA.
Austin won't ding you at all if he has the minimum GPA. This is what I am saying.
As for what he did, you're implying he may have done something criminal? And it wasn't reported to the police? Huh?
Yes and no
Yes the next change is in 2016 when it makes it 4 year score over 930.
No because this year it's 930 over fours years or 940 over two.
Also, APR is a year behind. So Austin is inconsequential for this years score (already released) and next years score. He won't factor in until 15-16 NCAAT.
Certain things don't get reported to the police when the alleged victim doesn't want the police to be involved. Think you can figure out the rest.
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That would be a huge violation of federal law. These things must be reported to police no matter what the victim wants. It's then the police's discretion as to what to do with the case. But the university is compelled by federal law to report, or it risks 7 figure federal fines.
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Yes, right, this is what I've been saying. If academics are fine, then he is exempt. I wrote repeatedly that he needed to be above a 2.6 GPA for that exemption to kick in. If he's not above 2.6 GPA, then PC can be docked up to 4 points.
My question is if PC got a waiver for Johnson?
As for this year, you are assuming a number of things in regards to the end of the year.
Seeing as no one knows what happened, how can you say that these things must be reported? The only thing I know is that girl did not want the police to be involved. Seeing as the police have been involved twice in the last 10 years with PC hoops players involving female issues, I have a feeling the school knows what they have to do in these situations...
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One way to look at things is like this: each scholarship player MUST return for both the spring and fall semesters to earn 1 point for each. Each player must finish both the fall and spring semesters in good standing in order to earn 1 point for each. The requirements for what constitutes good standing are considerably lesser for players going pro or for returning players than they are for transfers.
A transfer with a sub 2.6 GPA would lose 1 point each semester for not finishing in good standing, and 1 point each semester for not returning. In practice, however, the NCAA has issued exemptions for transfers who don't return in the fall if they left school prior to the previous spring semester.
A transfer with a sub 2.6 GPA would lose 1 point each semester for not finishing in good standing, and 1 point each semester for not returning. In practice, however, the NCAA has issued exemptions for transfers who don't return in the fall if they left school prior to the previous spring semester.
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There's a Federal law that compels the school to report. It's called the Cleary Act. The school has absolutely no discretion in the matter. It must report to the authorities.
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You're telling UConn fans they aren't the easiest organization to deal with? LOL
BA's GPA is above 2.6. He committed no crime. His discretion would have garnered him no more than 6 games at 99% of D-1 schools.
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Take it up with the other PC fan, not me. I didn't say that, he did.
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