http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mo...gins-sports-sexuality/?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp
Nicely done all around.
Nicely done all around.
That's a big burden to place on a young person that's also got other great expectations on her. It may have just been too much to expect one person to handle, much less a teenager/young twenty-something.Glad as I am that she is out and proud, I can't help wishing that she had found it in herself to speak up a little earlier, when other gay and lesbian students tried to get recognized as a student group in 2011, only to be turned down by the administration.
“Baylor expects students not to participate in advocacy groups promoting an understanding of sexuality that is contrary to biblical teaching,”university spokeswoman Lori Fogleman said at the time.
It would have been interesting to see what the university would have done had its star player raised her voice then.
Swoopes "came out" later in her career (or even maybe in her 2nd go round)I didn't know, but gathered it from some conversation here on the BY posted by someone I suspected would know. They were referencing the players that helped Mulkey win her 2 championships, and I caught the reference.
Good for her. May lead to more fan abuse, however, neither Sue Wicks nor Swoopes got a lot of abuse, that I am aware of. One can hope. I know I'll be cheering for her.
True. And, while I don't really know when Wicks came out, she was by the time she started in the W. My point was that they both played in the same league as Griner is going to, without abuse that I know of.Swoopes "came out" later in her career (or even maybe in her 2nd go round)
I have sons that are 18 and 16. I asked them how they feel about gay marriage and they shrugged. I asked them how they feel about gays and they shrugged again. I'm glad to see that their generation isn't going to judge others by whom they date or marry.Props to Griner and to the other two for being so casual about the "issue" of sexuality in sports .You have to think the interviewer was bringing up the NFL issue on sexuality to kind of lead into talking to Griner about it?
No need to assume sumptin's up with BG she said she's out. The others were free to make any comment they wished, too. It is as you said irrelevant. Each must find their own time and place and support from friends and family is a huge part of that.should they have asked if Diggins or EDD was gay... many just assum something's up with BG but are others covering it up to til the "time is right"?
Its a non-issue to me either way, just put the ball in the damn hoop
That's a big burden to place on a young person that's also got other great expectations on her. It may have just been too much to expect one person to handle, much less a teenager/young twenty-something.
Well said, maddy. At the same time every student's situation is different. Those who hate will hate anyway as a pastor who is publicly supportive of LGBT people and who yet has a strong sense of institutional process and accountability I have had numerous personal attacks from others just as a supporter sometimes from both sides at once. As you would well know the hostility can be overwhelming.
Well when she chose Baylor, she knew what kind of school it was, what it's beliefs were. I see no problem with respecting that.Glad as I am that she is out and proud, I can't help wishing that she had found it in herself to speak up a little earlier, when other gay and lesbian students tried to get recognized as a student group in 2011, only to be turned down by the administration.
“Baylor expects students not to participate in advocacy groups promoting an understanding of sexuality that is contrary to biblical teaching,”university spokeswoman Lori Fogleman said at the time.
It would have been interesting to see what the university would have done had its star player raised her voice then.
I'll have to disagree with that. I don't think one needs to go to a place where you know what their beliefs are and then openly disagree with them. Just don't go there. Respect their beliefs, even if they are not yours.I'm not saying Griner HAD to speak up, but I do wish she had, and I would respect her a lot more if that had been the case. To paraphrase Luke 12:48, from those to whom much has been given, more is expected. I admire Griner's basketball talents, but I have more respect for the straight and GLBT students at Baylor like Samantha Jones and Susan Duty who had the courage to raise their voices within the belly of the beast.
Hear hear!As a society why does Sports and Sexuality need to be in the same conversation? Who cares which way athletes lean towards in their sexual lives. We as fans should only care about how the athlete perform in their chosen sports endeavor. I for one wish that we as a society didn't need or want to know what a person's sexual identify is.
Someday that will be the case. It is not yet. Every person who stands up in every profession including sports helps others, especially, young people as they struggle with their sexual identity and how they fit into society because while it is changing and it gets better we aren't there yet.As a society why does Sports and Sexuality need to be in the same conversation? Who cares which way athletes lean towards in their sexual lives. We as fans should only care about how the athlete perform in their chosen sports endeavor. I for one wish that we as a society didn't need or want to know what a person's sexual identify is.
The unfortunate answer is that a lot of people care a whole bunch and bust their butts to make life difficult for those who are openly sexually different. And hats off to people like Maddy who are trying to correct the situation.As a society why does Sports and Sexuality need to be in the same conversation? Who cares which way athletes lean towards in their sexual lives. We as fans should only care about how the athlete perform in their chosen sports endeavor. I for one wish that we as a society didn't need or want to know what a person's sexual identify is.