OT: BG's new legacy, and Baylor (merged thread)

[meyers7]

On all points, I would just say that the stakes are raised and the publicity heightened with BG being such an icon for WNBA now.

True, but still don't think it will change much.

 

[DobbsRover2]

Did she simply come out as being homosexual or did she come out and say that she had an active sex life during her school years?

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I think for most sports fans the second element is considered to be maybe a little TMI, and you'd also have to define "active." But generally when an adult says something like "I love horror movies," the supposition is that they've actually seen one, or if they say "I'm a hockey player" that they've actually played the sport, or if they say they're a thrill-seeker, that they not only have sought out thrills but have the right to do so. If the idea is that Baylor now has a "Don't Ask, You Can Tell, But Just Don't Do It" policy which is the preferred route to go to keeps things running smoothly, then I guess BG just shouldn't wear any Nike gear on campus.

 

[DobbsRover2]

True, but still don't think it will change much.

Well I think Arlo addressed that point in Alice's Restaurant, which also touched in the 'two people" part with this very topic. It depends on how much follow-up occurs, as to whether the situation is not much changed, or an organization, or a movement. And it could happen fast. My two kids who are now 22 and 18 were dumbstruck when I told them what the seeming national consensus on gay marriage had been 10 or 15 years ago. When the tipping point is hit, the water starts to flow.

 

[RadyLady]

I think for most sports fans the second element is considered to be maybe a little TMI, and you'd also have to define "active." But generally when an adult says something like "I love horror movies," the supposition is that they've actually seen one, or if they say "I'm a hockey player" that they've actually played the sport, or if they say they're a thrill-seeker, that they not only have sought out thrills but have the right to do so. If the idea is that Baylor now has a "Don't Ask, You Can Tell, But Just Don't Do It" policy which is the preferred route to go to keeps things running smoothly, then I guess BG just shouldn't wear any Nike gear on campus.

not necessarily. I knew I was straight even before I tested the waters so to speak.
My point was did she admit to being gay or did she actually say she experimented because Baylor's policy states:".... Misuses of God's gift will be understood to include, but not be limited to, sexual abuse, sexual harassment, sexual assault, incest, adultery, fornication and homosexual acts."

I am sure some of the BY law learned many would say that this is not the complete list, but she admitted to being gay. She didn't say anything about an active sex life. As I see it, she didn't actually break the policy...strictly speaking....

will take my lumps now...

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I think for most sports fans the second element is considered to be maybe a little TMI, and you'd also have to define "active."

Don't feel I ever need to know who someone's partner (hetero or otherwise) is and certainly don't need to know what they are or are not doing behind closed doors.

That is, unfortunately, one of the big issues today - the need to know such things and the idea that it is somehow our "right" to know them.

On a separate, totally irrelevant issue - I just was reading a column and saw that the referee Violet Palmer (1st woman NBA official, with Dee Kantner) is also an out lesbian. Which is also none of my business and not something I needed to know, but none the less mildly interesting, I thought.

 

[RadyLady]

I pray that the day will come soon when the issue of sexual orientation is not an issue.

 

[meyers7]

not necessarily. I knew I was straight even before I tested the waters so to speak.
My point was did she admit to being gay or did she actually say she experimented because Baylor's policy states:".... Misuses of God's gift will be understood to include, but not be limited to, sexual abuse, sexual harassment, sexual assault, incest, adultery, fornication and homosexual acts."

I am sure some of the BY law learned many would say that this is not the complete list, but she admitted to being gay. She didn't say anything about an active sex life. As I see it, she didn't actually break the policy...strictly speaking....

will take my lumps now...

Agreed. That was my point in the other thread when people wondered WWBD?, that she never said she broke the policy. So I don't think Baylor has anything to do. Not that they would anyway. I mean they have lots of people breaking that "fornication" part I assume.

 

[meyers7]

It depends on how much follow-up occurs, as to whether the situation is not much changed, or an organization, or a movement.

Well I'm hoping a big deal is not made of it. Just let people live their lives. At least their private sexual lives.

 

[DobbsRover2]

Well I'm hoping a big deal is not made of it. Just let people live their lives. At least their private sexual lives.

Live and let live? Wish I could view that as the way most of the world works, but I think not. Rules such as the fornication/homosexual acts part of Baylor's code or Cal's Prop 8 are not necessarily built on letting the affected people live life the way they would like to. And for those who do wish for change if no big deal is made, their bad deal remains. I too would assume that fornication is practiced by some Baylor students even though they know that Ken Starr thinks they're misusing each other, but breeding hypocrisy is the wrong way to live.