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HooperScooper said:
And the Olympic team was not the real USMNT. The USMNT team can't even do well so how were the 2nd tier guys they sent to the Olympics expected to do well?
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Every country sends it's U23 players (3 senior exceptions allowed) for the Olympics because it's considered a non-FIFA event. For any non-FIFA events the players for senior ball clubs in leagues around the world have to be given approval by their clubs to play in that non-FIFA international event.
 
gsmooth said:
Every country sends it's U23 players (3 senior exceptions allowed) for the Olympics because it's considered a non-FIFA event. For any non-FIFA events the players for senior ball clubs in leagues around the world have to be given approval by their clubs to play in that non-FIFA international event.
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And the U.S.'s depth of good players is much more shallow than most of the world. It still boggles my mind how that is now. We have a very large population compared to South American (well Brazil is large also) and European countries and it seems the last few years the U.S. has put an emphasis on soccer with great training programs and still can't produce enough talent to do well against the rest of the world. Someone more knowledgable than me about the U.S. developmental soccer program needs to explain to me why that is.
 
they've got 11 year olds competing in skateboarding because kids rotate better in the air. what are we even doing. :rolleyes:
 
HooperScooper said:
And the Olympic team was not the real USMNT. The USMNT team can't even do well so how were the 2nd tier guys they sent to the Olympics expected to do well?
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Well they made it to the quarters for the first time since 2000.
 
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WhereistheDove? said:
The men’s 100 M lived up to the hype and more. 5 thousands of a second and Lyles pulled it off after being behind the whole way.

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Amazing race. Guy is a bit too much of a showboat for me but that was sick.
 
uconngb said:
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Amazing race. Guy is a bit too much of a showboat for me but that was sick.
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Agree that he is a bit much but it is "good natured." He also seems to genuinely have a good heart.

While I have preferred the humility of Christian Coleman over the years, you have to admit that Lyles is making it work for himself. He got the biggest roar upon being introduced and he is now only behind a handful of NBA players (if that) in international marketability among American athletes. And Noah has long had his head straight when it comes to the financial side of things (and makes a point of educating the up-and-comers).
 
WhereistheDove? said:
The men’s 100 M lived up to the hype and more. 5 thousands of a second and Lyles pulled it off after being behind the whole way.

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What seems insane is saying Lewis' first place finish from 1984 would have been last place in this race as a slight towards him. Yes, on the surface, but shoes, training, nutrition, and improved technique have also advanced so with the benefit of all that he'd be challenging Lyles no doubt. Plus he wouldn't lean back in 2024.
 
I watch it all. Swimming, gymnastics, track and field are my favorites but actually enjoy watching some sports I've never watched like fencing. I will admit though at 73 my eyesite doesnt allow me to see what happens when someone scores!! I do have to ask what is up with the love for Snoop Dog and Martha Stewart? Is that the best we can do?
 
Noah Lyle. He won according to the rules, but I find it odd they'd determine a winner so subjectively - first torso to cross the line.

First foot to land across the line seems like it would be a lot less subjective.
 
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temery said:
Noah Lyle. He won according to the rules, but I find it odd they'd determine a winner so subjectively - first torso to cross the line.

First foot to land across the line seems like it would be a lot less subjective.
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"First torso across the finish line" is as objective as it gets, in sports or anywhere else.
 
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Japan just pulled off one of the greatest chokes we've ever seen in men's volleyball. 3 match points in the 3rd set looking to win 3-0 and they go on to lose 3-2. Had another match point in the 5th and their pinch server hits the bottom half of the net. Just not remotely ready for the moment
 
temery said:
Noah Lyle. He won according to the rules, but I find it odd they'd determine a winner so subjectively - first torso to cross the line.

First foot to land across the line seems like it would be a lot less subjective.
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That would bring a lot of issues with where the runner is in their stride. A stride that happens to align with that would have a big upper hand over a stride where the runner landed right before the line and then had to take a full stride before planting their foot again. The rules as they are probably the most objective way to determine pure fastest runner.
 
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I’ve only watched the golf this far. Great finishing 9 holes by Scheffler many big names with a chance heading into the weekend.

Other than that don’t think I will watch anything no interest. Maybe women’s golf Wednesday to Saturday hoping Korda grabs the gold.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
That would bring a lot of issues with where the runner is in their stride. A stride that happens to align with that would have a big upper hand over a stride where the runner landed right before the line and then had to take a full stride before planting their foot again. The rules as they are probably the most objective way to determine pure fastest runner.
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The goal is to get past the finish line. The finish line is painted on the ground, as is each starting line.

The rules as they are are probably the least objective way to determine pure fastest runner.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
That would bring a lot of issues with where the runner is in their stride. A stride that happens to align with that would have a big upper hand over a stride where the runner landed right before the line and then had to take a full stride before planting their foot again. The rules as they are probably the most objective way to determine pure fastest runner.
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Noah turned on the jets in the last 30 yds.
 
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temery said:
Noah Wyle. He won according to the rules, but I find it odd they'd determine a winner so subjectively - first torso to cross the line.

First foot to land across the line seems like it would be a lot less subjective.
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That's how it's always been. It's why technique and the lean are so important in sprints.
 
superjohn said:
That's how it's always been. It's why technique and the lean are so important in sprints.
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Im not saying they got it wrong according to the rules. I'm saying the rule is stupid.
 
temery said:
Im not saying they got it wrong according to the rules. I'm saying the rule is stupid.
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It’s the best way to do it. Leaning is taught. If Thompson’s was as exaggerated as Lyle’s he likely would’ve won.
 
temery said:
Im not saying they got it wrong according to the rules. I'm saying the rule is stupid.
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Disagree, leaning for the tape has always been a fundamental part of track. Who broke the tape first with their chest was always the winner. Deciding it any other way seems stupid.
 
superjohn said:
Disagree, leaning for the tape has always been a fundamental part of track. Who broke the tape first with their chest was always the winner. Deciding it any other way seems stupid.
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You'd have a point if there was an actual tape.
 
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superjohn said:
There was an actual tape, it would be incredibly stupid to fundamentally change the sport.
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Rules are changed when technology provides a better alternative.

Runners need to be informed that the tape is actually not the “finish line” of the race. Even if someone breaks the tape first, that doesn’t mean they are automatically the winner, as the tape may have not been held exactly over the real finish line itself.

www.dmsesports.com

THE BREAK TAPE — DMSE Sports

Holding a break tape at the finish of a major (or any) race and what the tape actually looks like is a perfect example of how something seemingly very simple can have huge implications.
www.dmsesports.com www.dmsesports.com
 
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temery said:
Rules are changed when technology provides a better alternative.

Runners need to be informed that the tape is actually not the “finish line” of the race. Even if someone breaks the tape first, that doesn’t mean they are automatically the winner, as the tape may have not been held exactly over the real finish line itself.

www.dmsesports.com

THE BREAK TAPE — DMSE Sports

Holding a break tape at the finish of a major (or any) race and what the tape actually looks like is a perfect example of how something seemingly very simple can have huge implications.
www.dmsesports.com www.dmsesports.com
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This has nothing to do with the discussion. Of course if the tape is set up wrong for a marathon it's the photo finish that decides the winner.
 
temery said:
The goal is to get past the finish line. The finish line is painted on the ground, as is each starting line.

The rules as they are are probably the least objective way to determine pure fastest runner.
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If the rule were just get any part of your body over the line, it’d get pretty dangerous since the fastest way would almost certainly be hurling your body forward at the very end to have your fingertips break first.

Not really sure how any way to define it is more or less objective since it’s all a binary determination. They’ve either broken the line or not. This is probably the one that most incentives the fastest pure running with the least amount of nonsense at the end to gain an advantage.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
If the rule were just get any part of your body over the line, it’d get pretty dangerous since the fastest way would almost certainly be hurling your body forward at the very end to have your fingertips break first.

Not really sure how any way to define it is more or less objective since it’s all a binary determination. They’ve either broken the line or not. This is probably the one that most incentives the fastest pure running with the least amount of nonsense at the end to gain an advantage.
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A runner taller or short than the avg runner is at a disadvantage if a tape is used. First foot to hit the ground is far easier to determine than the first torso crossing the tape.
 
superjohn said:
This has nothing to do with the discussion. Of course if the tape is set up wrong for a marathon it's the photo finish that decides the winner.
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No, this actually is the discussion. I know, I started the discussion. And this wasn't a marathon.

Im just saying there is a far less subjective way to determine the winner.
 
temery said:
A runner taller or short than the avg runner is at a disadvantage if a tape is used. First foot to hit the ground is far easier to determine than the first torso crossing the tape.
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But again, that gives a huge advantage to runners whose stride happens to line up perfectly, which is 100% luck and no skill.
 
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