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[Kolumbo]

Governor Newsome is not happy with UCLA's actions.

Gavin Newsom threatens action against UCLA due to Big Ten move | Fox News

UCLA and USC are leaving the Pac-12

www.foxnews.com

It's incredible that the folks in key positions such as the board of regents had no idea what was happening.

University of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"All University of California campuses except Hastings College of the Law are governed by the Regents of the University of California as required by the Constitution of the State of California.[32] Eighteen regents are appointed by the governor for 12-year terms.[32] One member is a student appointed for a one-year term.[32] There are also seven ex officio members—the governor, lieutenant governor, speaker of the State Assembly, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, president and vice president of the alumni associations of UC, and the UC president.[32] The Academic Senate, made up of faculty members, is empowered by the regents to set academic policies.[32] In addition, the system-wide faculty chair and vice-chair sit on the Board of Regents as non-voting members."

 

[huskymedic]

It's incredible that the folks in key positions such as the board of regents had no idea what was happening.

University of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"All University of California campuses except Hastings College of the Law are governed by the Regents of the University of California as required by the Constitution of the State of California.[32] Eighteen regents are appointed by the governor for 12-year terms.[32] One member is a student appointed for a one-year term.[32] There are also seven ex officio members—the governor, lieutenant governor, speaker of the State Assembly, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, president and vice president of the alumni associations of UC, and the UC president.[32] The Academic Senate, made up of faculty members, is empowered by the regents to set academic policies.[32] In addition, the system-wide faculty chair and vice-chair sit on the Board of Regents as non-voting members."

Loose lips sink ships (especially 25+ pairs of them)

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I am guessing if Newsome can stop UCLA from going to the B1G, B1G can take Stanford. This way, both PAC-12 and B1G can keep a part of the LA, market. It would suck for UCLA, but it will protect some of the PAC-12 media deal.

Will it happen? Probably not. Maybe the governor can force UCLA to share some of that B1G money with UC Berkeley.

 

[Billy Jack]

It's incredible that the folks in key positions such as the board of regents had no idea what was happening.

University of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"All University of California campuses except Hastings College of the Law are governed by the Regents of the University of California as required by the Constitution of the State of California.[32] Eighteen regents are appointed by the governor for 12-year terms.[32] One member is a student appointed for a one-year term.[32] There are also seven ex officio members—the governor, lieutenant governor, speaker of the State Assembly, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, president and vice president of the alumni associations of UC, and the UC president.[32] The Academic Senate, made up of faculty members, is empowered by the regents to set academic policies.[32] In addition, the system-wide faculty chair and vice-chair sit on the Board of Regents as non-voting members."

If Newsom gets serious about this, the lawyers might be having a lot of fun arguing what this language means.

 

[huskymedic]

Governor Newsome is not happy with UCLA's actions.

Gavin Newsom threatens action against UCLA due to Big Ten move | Fox News

UCLA and USC are leaving the Pac-12

www.foxnews.com

 

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[AZHuskiePop]

I am guessing if Newsome can stop UCLA from going to the B1G, B1G can take Stanford. This way, both PAC-12 and B1G can keep a part of the LA, market. It would suck for UCLA, but it will protect some of the PAC-12 media deal.

Will it happen? Probably not. Maybe the governor can force UCLA to share some of that B1G money with UC Berkeley.

Our maybe Cal goes to the B1G also
didn’t the Va Gov politic to VT into the ACC

 

[ScottVib]

Different type of situation. Virginia’s vote was necessary to approve any expansion… UCLA doesn’t have a vote. They’ll be forced to say “we asked if they could come…” and it’ll blow over. It’s performance theater… Newsome scores some points with Cal alumni for trying but doesn’t burn the bridges by stopping UCLA from moving.

 

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[Kolumbo]

It's really a shame for college sports. I thought the PAC 12 was isolated geographically and solid top to bottom. Outside of cashe, it makes no sense for UCLA from the university experience perspective to join the B1G. Crazy stuff.

This is an interesting site containing rankings by conference.

2016 Pacific 12 Conference : Pac12 Academic Rankings

The Best 2016 Pacific 12 Conference : Pac12 Academic Rankings. Stanford University, University of California and University of Southern California are the top 3 universities for this years academic rankings

universitybenchmarks.com

UCONN - this is really the big east although it says patriot

2016 Big East Conference : Patriot League Academic Rankings

The Best 2016 Big East Conference : Patriot League Academic Rankings. Georgetown University, University of Connecticut and Villanova University are the top 3 universities for this years academic rankings

universitybenchmarks.com

 

[huskymedic]

… good luck:

-> Finally, UC will examine the regents’ policy that allows each university to control its athletics operations, and offer recommendations on policy changes necessary to ensure “proper oversight of major athletics-related decisions.”

Newsom and the Legislature have no authority to kill the UCLA deal, because the UC system is constitutionally autonomous. In 1991, the UC Office of the President delegated authority to campus chancellors to execute their own contracts, including intercollegiate athletic agreements.

But Board of Regents Chair Richard Leib told The Times on Wednesday that the delegation of authority “didn’t necessarily anticipate this type of action.”<-

 

[Waquoit]

Newsome has to say something, he's the governor. But he's not going to blow this up, he'll never have a shot a being prez if he does.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It's really a shame for college sports. I thought the PAC 12 was isolated geographically and solid top to bottom. Outside of cashe, it makes no sense for UCLA from the university experience perspective to join the B1G. Crazy stuff.

This is an interesting site containing rankings by conference.

2016 Pacific 12 Conference : Pac12 Academic Rankings

The Best 2016 Pacific 12 Conference : Pac12 Academic Rankings. Stanford University, University of California and University of Southern California are the top 3 universities for this years academic rankings

universitybenchmarks.com

UCONN - this is really the big east although it says patriot

2016 Big East Conference : Patriot League Academic Rankings

The Best 2016 Big East Conference : Patriot League Academic Rankings. Georgetown University, University of Connecticut and Villanova University are the top 3 universities for this years academic rankings

universitybenchmarks.com

The raids always happen right before the target conference is about to get a new TV contract. It is hard to tell how well the Pac 12 would have done in a new TV negotiation, and the Big 10 did not want to find out.

What is a certainty is that UCLA football is finished, and USC basketball's days as a Top 25 program are probably also coming to an end. But the schools are getting paid, so the fans can root for that.

 

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[nelsonmuntz]

These ratings are not nearly as useful standalone data sets as the college football writers make them seem. I am confident that LA sports fans, who are indifferent on their best days, are not going to give a spit about USC/Iowa or UCLA/Indiana in the snow in November after the initial novelty of the Big 10 wears off, especially if the California schools are out of the Top 10. Fans aren't going to care about games involving these far flung teams.

The conferences never understood that their product is not the teams, it is the games, and getting fans the most compelling games possible for their fans should be their objective, rather than just a collection of big markets and historical brand names that do not fit together. As a result, most of the additions have been underwhelming unless there was some historical or geographic rivalry that could be monetized by the new conference. For example, TCU to the Big 12 was a valuable add, and a case could be made for Nebraska even though its market sucks and the program has mailed it in for 5+ years. Maryland and Rutgers to the Big 10 most likely reduced the per game value of the Big 10 from what it would have been otherwise.

 

[huskymedic]

Carrying some water…




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-> Commissioner George Kliavkoff, who has been silent since the June 30 thunderbolt, will offer his state-of-the-conference address at Pac-12 media day Friday in Los Angeles.

Will he take the stage with facts, confidence and a trumpet … or ignore the elephant standing on the podium with him?

Will he indicate the Pac-12 is also open for business and strike an aggressive tone … or focus on the upcoming 2022 season?

If the former approach is preferred — from here, it doesn’t seem like Kliavkoff has a choice — he certainly won’t lack for evidence:

— The new Pac-12 will have better media markets than the new Big 12.

The 10 remaining schools account for six of the nation’s top 30 markets, according to Nielsen DMA data from 2021. (Add San Diego State, and it would be seven.) The Big 12 will have just four.

— With Washington and Oregon, the conference arguably possesses the top football properties of the 22 schools remaining in the two leagues.

— The TV ratings favor the Pac-12, as well. <-

 

[ScottVib]

Oregon sports-talk host:

Canzano: Delusion aside -- the Big 12 has nothing on the Pac-12

The numbers (and brands) don't lie.

www.johncanzano.com

Last couple of paragraphs:

If you’re the Pac-12 and looking for an advantageous partnership, you’d first turn to the ACC (28 million-plus TV households). If you are the Pac-12 and looking to poach programs, you’d probably turn to San Diego State (1.1 million TV households in the Pacific Time Zone). And the world views of the typical university presidents and chancellors in the Pac-12 footprint don’t mesh easily with those of the Big 12’s leaders.

We’re going to hear from Pac-12 leaders this week as part of the conference’s football media day. Commissioner George Kliavkoff needs to answer some tough questions and may even have some news to share. But before that, the delusion about Big 12 superiority has to stop.

Big 12 fans are nervous about being left behind. Some of the same hysteria swept over the Pac-12 in the wake of the USC/UCLA news. But it’s been replaced by logic, reason and a search for good options. The Pac-12 is the better conference. Period. End stop. The only question now is what ESPN and others are willing to pay to carry its games.

 

[Slasher]

Shockingly playing the only game at 10:30 at night on ESPN draws more ratings than a Big 12 games on ESPNU or FS1. This is no surprise to anyone. Anyone playing a standalone game late a night is going to draw decent but not great ratings. BYU can now fill this role for the Big 12 or any of the Pac-12 additions.

 

[metsfan2323]

These ratings are not nearly as useful standalone data sets as the college football writers make them seem. I am confident that LA sports fans, who are indifferent on their best days, are not going to give a spit about USC/Iowa or UCLA/Indiana in the snow in November after the initial novelty of the Big 10 wears off, especially if the California schools are out of the Top 10. Fans aren't going to care about games involving these far flung teams.

The conferences never understood that their product is not the teams, it is the games, and getting fans the most compelling games possible for their fans should be their objective, rather than just a collection of big markets and historical brand names that do not fit together. As a result, most of the additions have been underwhelming unless there was some historical or geographic rivalry that could be monetized by the new conference. For example, TCU to the Big 12 was a valuable add, and a case could be made for Nebraska even though its market sucks and the program has mailed it in for 5+ years. Maryland and Rutgers to the Big 10 most likely reduced the per game value of the Big 10 from what it would have been otherwi

This is also why UCONN would be a good addition for the ACC. It might help revitalize Syracuse and BC in football and basketball.

 

[Waquoit]

This is also why UCONN would be a good addition for the ACC. It might help revitalize Syracuse and BC in football and basketball.

That's as true today as it was then. But why would those dopes think any different now?

 

[billybud]

I'll try to check out the UConn-BC games this year (@ UConn) and next...BC has been stuck on 6 wins a season during the past three seasons, but still a worthy opponent.

Cuse-UConn this year as well are @ UConn...last year, the Cuse improved from 1-11 to 5-7.

Do you think that the BC and Cuse games this year will be able to be viewed down heah?

 

[Hogoff]

I'll try to check out the UConn-BC games this year (@ UConn) and next...BC has been stuck on 6 wins a season during the past three seasons, but still a worthy opponent.

Cuse-UConn this year as well are @ UConn...last year, the Cuse improved from 1-11 to 5-7.

Do you think that the BC and Cuse games this year will be able to be viewed down heah?

They’re both on CBS Sports. I am in SC and was able to watch all the games last year. I’d imagine you’d be able to watch wherever you are.