Options available for the PAC-12

[shizzle787]

I think this is dumb but if it results in the Pac-12 getting more than the $30 million they are looking at, they'll take it.

 

[shizzle787]

Great article. Great quote in there showing how the Pac-12 at least thinks they are worth more than the Big 12 (at least that is what they are saying publicly).

“This is all about money,” says one Pac-12 official. “The SEC has got the most of it and the Big Ten has the second most of it and the ACC is stuck in a less-than-optimal deal. And the Pac-10 - we have to start calling it the Pac-10 now - is figuring out what our new TV deal looks like, and the Big 12, it appears, is after us.”

 

[Billy Jack]

If Washington & Oregon are stuck in the Pac-12; they'll be the conference shell with the power in the battle between the Pac-12 & Big XII.

I don’t see UW and UO getting stuck in the PAC-12 because a West Coast division will be needed to make the USC/UCLA expansion work. UW, UO, Cal, and Stanford are the leading candidates for a 6-team West Coast division.

In Penn State, Maryland, and Rutgers, the B1G already has the core for an East Coast division with plenty of candidates to fill out the other 3 spots.

 

[ScottVib]

Reports from an Oregon based source (Portland Sports Talk Host):

Former Fox Sports Network president Bob Thompson told me last week that he estimated the Pac-12’s next media rights contract would command $500 million a year before the defection. With the Los Angeles’ television market gone, Thompson says the Pac-12’s media value is reduced to $300 million a year.

That's 30M a year with Oregon & Washington included.

Source: Canzano: Oregon Ducks make a wish list, while Pac-12 rallies behind scenes

 

[huskymedic]

 

[bobbyinaz]

Since these are the 2 conferences that contain the targets of the SEC & B1G it makes sense for them to align now.

That way when the P2 pick off the schools they want there will already be a structure in place for the leftover schools to move forward.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Hawaii would be great for the PAC-12. Governor just signed to build a $400m stadium.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Canzano: ESPN plays kingmaker as Pac-12 waits... plus, a Dutch Bros laugh... and a lawsuit looms

Some rich stuff here...

www.johncanzano.com

 

[shizzle787]

Question for everyone: although unlikely to happen, would you accept a Pac-12 invitation for all sports if the corner four schools left and the other six remained?

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Question for everyone: although unlikely to happen, would you accept a Pac-12 invitation for all sports if the corner four schools left and the other six remained?

I would if they can add some other quality schools in the East as well for traveling partners.

 

[Billy Jack]

Question for everyone: although unlikely to happen, would you accept a Pac-12 invitation for all sports if the corner four schools left and the other six remained?

Only if there were East and West divisions.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Only if there were East and West divisions.

Exactly. There are some very good academic schools in the PAC-12 that are our peers, and it would make perfect sense to be in a conference with them. While there is a huge cultural difference between PAC-12 schools and many B12 schools, this isn't the case with PAC-12 and many ACC schools. If ACC implodes, ACC leftovers and PAC-12 leftovers should form a new nationwide conference with East and West coast divisions. Hopefully, we are included in this new league.

 

[Billy Jack]

Without a viable football program, we’re not in the conversation.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Governor Newsome is not happy with UCLA's actions.

Gavin Newsom threatens action against UCLA due to Big Ten move | Fox News

UCLA and USC are leaving the Pac-12

www.foxnews.com

 

[Kolumbo]

Governor Newsome is not happy with UCLA's actions.

Gavin Newsom threatens action against UCLA due to Big Ten move | Fox News

UCLA and USC are leaving the Pac-12

www.foxnews.com

It's incredible that the folks in key positions such as the board of regents had no idea what was happening.

University of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"All University of California campuses except Hastings College of the Law are governed by the Regents of the University of California as required by the Constitution of the State of California.[32] Eighteen regents are appointed by the governor for 12-year terms.[32] One member is a student appointed for a one-year term.[32] There are also seven ex officio members—the governor, lieutenant governor, speaker of the State Assembly, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, president and vice president of the alumni associations of UC, and the UC president.[32] The Academic Senate, made up of faculty members, is empowered by the regents to set academic policies.[32] In addition, the system-wide faculty chair and vice-chair sit on the Board of Regents as non-voting members."

 

[huskymedic]

It's incredible that the folks in key positions such as the board of regents had no idea what was happening.

University of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"All University of California campuses except Hastings College of the Law are governed by the Regents of the University of California as required by the Constitution of the State of California.[32] Eighteen regents are appointed by the governor for 12-year terms.[32] One member is a student appointed for a one-year term.[32] There are also seven ex officio members—the governor, lieutenant governor, speaker of the State Assembly, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, president and vice president of the alumni associations of UC, and the UC president.[32] The Academic Senate, made up of faculty members, is empowered by the regents to set academic policies.[32] In addition, the system-wide faculty chair and vice-chair sit on the Board of Regents as non-voting members."

Loose lips sink ships (especially 25+ pairs of them)

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I am guessing if Newsome can stop UCLA from going to the B1G, B1G can take Stanford. This way, both PAC-12 and B1G can keep a part of the LA, market. It would suck for UCLA, but it will protect some of the PAC-12 media deal.

Will it happen? Probably not. Maybe the governor can force UCLA to share some of that B1G money with UC Berkeley.

 

[Billy Jack]

It's incredible that the folks in key positions such as the board of regents had no idea what was happening.

University of California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"All University of California campuses except Hastings College of the Law are governed by the Regents of the University of California as required by the Constitution of the State of California.[32] Eighteen regents are appointed by the governor for 12-year terms.[32] One member is a student appointed for a one-year term.[32] There are also seven ex officio members—the governor, lieutenant governor, speaker of the State Assembly, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, president and vice president of the alumni associations of UC, and the UC president.[32] The Academic Senate, made up of faculty members, is empowered by the regents to set academic policies.[32] In addition, the system-wide faculty chair and vice-chair sit on the Board of Regents as non-voting members."

If Newsom gets serious about this, the lawyers might be having a lot of fun arguing what this language means.

 

[huskymedic]

Governor Newsome is not happy with UCLA's actions.

Gavin Newsom threatens action against UCLA due to Big Ten move | Fox News

UCLA and USC are leaving the Pac-12

www.foxnews.com

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Hondo 77]

 

[AZHuskiePop]

I am guessing if Newsome can stop UCLA from going to the B1G, B1G can take Stanford. This way, both PAC-12 and B1G can keep a part of the LA, market. It would suck for UCLA, but it will protect some of the PAC-12 media deal.

Will it happen? Probably not. Maybe the governor can force UCLA to share some of that B1G money with UC Berkeley.

Our maybe Cal goes to the B1G also
didn’t the Va Gov politic to VT into the ACC

 

[ScottVib]

Different type of situation. Virginia’s vote was necessary to approve any expansion… UCLA doesn’t have a vote. They’ll be forced to say “we asked if they could come…” and it’ll blow over. It’s performance theater… Newsome scores some points with Cal alumni for trying but doesn’t burn the bridges by stopping UCLA from moving.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Kolumbo]

It's really a shame for college sports. I thought the PAC 12 was isolated geographically and solid top to bottom. Outside of cashe, it makes no sense for UCLA from the university experience perspective to join the B1G. Crazy stuff.

This is an interesting site containing rankings by conference.

2016 Pacific 12 Conference : Pac12 Academic Rankings

The Best 2016 Pacific 12 Conference : Pac12 Academic Rankings. Stanford University, University of California and University of Southern California are the top 3 universities for this years academic rankings

universitybenchmarks.com

UCONN - this is really the big east although it says patriot

2016 Big East Conference : Patriot League Academic Rankings

The Best 2016 Big East Conference : Patriot League Academic Rankings. Georgetown University, University of Connecticut and Villanova University are the top 3 universities for this years academic rankings

universitybenchmarks.com

 

[huskymedic]

… good luck:

-> Finally, UC will examine the regents’ policy that allows each university to control its athletics operations, and offer recommendations on policy changes necessary to ensure “proper oversight of major athletics-related decisions.”

Newsom and the Legislature have no authority to kill the UCLA deal, because the UC system is constitutionally autonomous. In 1991, the UC Office of the President delegated authority to campus chancellors to execute their own contracts, including intercollegiate athletic agreements.

But Board of Regents Chair Richard Leib told The Times on Wednesday that the delegation of authority “didn’t necessarily anticipate this type of action.”<-

 

[Waquoit]

Newsome has to say something, he's the governor. But he's not going to blow this up, he'll never have a shot a being prez if he does.