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One last gift from Ollie

Matrim55 said:
Ayala would've been a Husky if KO had recruited him even slightly. Couldn't be bothered.

Oh well. Proud of these kids and happy we're a tournament team again. Got a top 10 class coming in next year, we'll put a lottery pick into the League, and the program's officially headed in the right direction.

That's what I'm going to think about. Not this game, and certainly not free throw shooting.
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Matrim55 said:
Enough to what? Win our fifth? In that case, you’re correct, it won’t be enough.

But it’s enough to get us back to the tournament and maybe to the second weekend. And then we’ll bring in another top 10 class. And then we’ll be cooking.
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People want everything yesterday.
BigErnMcCracken said:
Eric Ayala is a perfectly fine college player who will probably have a fun career in Europe. The idea that he would have made some sort of difference if Ollie recruited him to UConn is moronic. We have better players than Eric Ayala. Just not when it matters.
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Who is better? Bouk, Sanogo(freshman in constant foul trouble) who else is better?
 
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Matrim55 said:
Ayala would've been a Husky if KO had recruited him even slightly. Couldn't be bothered.

Oh well. Proud of these kids and happy we're a tournament team again. Got a top 10 class coming in next year, we'll put a lottery pick into the League, and the program's officially headed in the right direction.

That's what I'm going to think about. Not this game, and certainly not free throw shooting.
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this Ayala subject.
Can you tell me more about Ayala and his interest in Uconn and our failed or non existent recruitment?
I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
 
ScuderiaDiU said:
What was Ayala ranked coming out of high school?
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#78 on 247. Looks like he had some big time offers including us, Cuse, Zona, Ohio St., Illinois, Indiana. Definitely wasn't flying under the radar as a recruit.
 
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there they were before me at the dinner table last night:

-"not 1 dime back!"
-and Ryan Gomes feasting, all ~265 lbs. of him now :)...oh well move on, much health to all
 
Matrim55 said:
Ayala would've been a Husky if KO had recruited him even slightly. Couldn't be bothered.

Oh well. Proud of these kids and happy we're a tournament team again. Got a top 10 class coming in next year, we'll put a lottery pick into the League, and the program's officially headed in the right direction.

That's what I'm going to think about. Not this game, and certainly not free throw shooting.
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No one was a bigger Ollie critic than me. However, Hurley chose to pin our point guard hopes on RJ Cole and Gaffney. That is on Hurley. He had plenty of time to find good point guards and instead thought RJ Cole was the answer.

That right there is the problem. If Vital was still on the team, there is no way we lose last night's game.

The sad thing is other than Bouk so far, Ollie actually brought in more impactful players than Hurley. Brimah, Hamilton, Adams, Albatross Rod, Vital, Whaley. They lacked good coaching and leadership.
 
Come on Dan Hurley we knew FT's were an issue all year, did you think you could just just snap your heels?

Just didn't see the eagerness going to the line...coaching!!!
 
It's honestly sad and pathetic that Ollie has even been brought back into the conversation.
 
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Jaker said:
Ollie is long gone
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His mistakes are not.

I found it poetic that, in our first trip to the dance in five years, the best player on the court was a kid that Ollie simply refused to put any effort into recruiting. The echoes of coaching incompetence in this sport linger for years, my friends.

That's not to say the loss is on Ollie. It's not -- it's on Danny & the kids. But stuff that happened with this program four and five years ago still affects it now, just as stuff that's happening with this program now will affect it in 2025, 2026 and so on.

Anyway, I'll reiterate: I'm proud of Danny & the kids for getting us back there, am looking forward to seeing where Bouk goes in the lottery, and am certain better days for the program are ahead.
 
ASweet3781 said:
HA!

Can't blame Hurley for what we saw tonight but of course it's AOK to blame it on OLLIE.
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Absolutely..... are you kidding.... Losing by less than 20 during the ko years was considered a moral victory. The team quit on him game after game. The one potentially great recruiting class was eviscerated before they could accomplish anything because of his gross incompetence especially when it came to recruiting. Hurley inherited a dumpster fire 🔥 and has done a commendable job bringing the program back from the brink of becoming irrelevant. Hurley can improve on something's ( game prep and in game adjustments) but his teams do not give up and play hard game in and game out. Just like the Uconn teams of old they play with pride and are proud to wear UConn on the front of their uniforms and that's the difference between now and 4 years ago and after this year the Ollie experiment will be a thing of the past including playing other teams that have players that wanted to come to UConn and didn't because of the coach at the time .... ( Myles Powell- Seton Hall). His complete and total incompetence still haunts this school... ( the never ending lawsuit with claims of racism thrown in out of desperation). I'm sad that we now have to take down out UConn christmas tree earlier than i had hoped, ( it stays up till they lose ).Stay warm and be safe
 
People are touchy. The team got beat yesterday and it had nothing to do with Ollie. Not really what the OP was saying.

I don't know where @Matrim55 has his source that we could have had Ayala, ranked 78 that year. Or if he would have stayed signed in the transition (since he's in Adams' class, i.e. Hurley's first). But I don't see the big deal in pointing out what the kid at least partially represents.
 
tzznandrew said:
People are touchy. The team got beat yesterday and it had nothing to do with Ollie. Not really what the OP was saying.

I don't know where @Matrim55 has his source that we could have had Ayala, ranked 78 that year. Or if he would have stayed signed in the transition (since he's in Adams' class, i.e. Hurley's first). But I don't see the big deal in pointing out what the kid at least partially represents.
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It's just a weird thing to bring up, we didn't get a bunch of recruits and we didn't win many games after year three with Ollie but Ollie has nothing to do with what happened last night and I hope Hurley never brings up the mess he had to take over again. UConn lost last night because Hurley got outcoached and the team played terribly.
 
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superjohn said:
It's just a weird thing to bring up, we didn't get a bunch of recruits and we didn't win many games after year three with Ollie but Ollie has nothing to do with what happened last night and I hope Hurley never brings up the mess he had to take over again. UConn lost last night because Hurley got outcoached and the team played terribly.
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Well, we're at a point where Hurley literally has no one left from a KO team unless he wants them. That first recruiting class (Adams) was also a consequence of the takeover, but whatever.

And we're getting past the point where players on the court have any connection to KO at all.

So in that sense you're going to get your wish. Hopefully on both fronts.

But if you're someone who follows recruiting as closely as Matrim—who unlike some others actually has some connections and has been right on things—it's not too hard to see Ayala and think about the past, near UConn connection.
 
superjohn said:
It's just a weird thing to bring up, we didn't get a bunch of recruits and we didn't win many games after year three with Ollie but Ollie has nothing to do with what happened last night and I hope Hurley never brings up the mess he had to take over again. UConn lost last night because Hurley got outcoached and the team played terribly.
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This is exactly the issue imo. It sounds just like when Hurley brings up the mess he inherited and gives us all his program-building, culture-building resume time and time and time again. It sounds super defensive, like he’s still interviewing for the job. We are all well aware of where the program was. We are more aware of it than he is.

He has the job and he just signed a contract extension. Whoever Ayala is and wherever he came from, it’s not like he led Maryland to a gangbuster season; and in any event, Hurley said he expected him to be a problem, he had a week to plan for the matchup and he admitted that he had no plan whatsoever for dealing with him.

But yes, let’s bring up Kevin Ollie and lay the guy’s performance last night at his feet.
 
tzznandrew said:
People are touchy. The team got beat yesterday and it had nothing to do with Ollie. Not really what the OP was saying.

I don't know where @Matrim55 has his source that we could have had Ayala, ranked 78 that year. Or if he would have stayed signed in the transition (since he's in Adams' class, i.e. Hurley's first). But I don't see the big deal in pointing out what the kid at least partially represents.
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The OP didn't make a single post or comment about any current UConn coach or player that coached/played last night but his response was to throw a temper tantrum about Ollie, that's clown behavior. Ollie should be out of sight and out of mind at this point, but I guess when Hurley is still talking to the media about what a mess he inherited like he did this week, using the Ollie crutch bleeds down to the fans. Folks better get it outta their system now, cuz it's not gonna fly at all when its all Hurley players going forward.
 
aceboon said:
The OP didn't make a single post or comment about any current UConn coach or player that coached/played last night but his response was to throw a temper tantrum about Ollie, that's clown behavior. Ollie should be out of sight and out of mind at this point, but I guess when Hurley is still talking to the media about what a mess he inherited like he did this week, using the Ollie crutch bleeds down to the fans. Folks better get it outta their system now, cuz it's not gonna fly at all when its all Hurley players going forward.
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I respect your position and I'm myself tired of Hurley blaming Ollie. Even this year was a stretch. If he wanted to pass the buck, he could have instead mentioned the cascade of injuries his team has faced all three years. Unless KO , he needs to let it go.

I'm not particularly bothered by the OP here because he's posted before many other times and so I can fit his take into a wider understanding. There's been a whole lot of people dunking (rightly) on Hurley.
 
8893 said:
he had a week to plan for the matchup and he admitted that he had no plan whatsoever for dealing with him.
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$24 million in tax payer committed to a guy who had a week to prepare for a 78th ranked recruit and had no plan?!?!
 
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