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snowkot said:
Need to look beyond the numbers a bit. UConn pre and post healthy Azzi Fudd are different teams. This one is undefeated with her healthy, playing significant minutes, with the 1 auspicious win versus a top 5 team.

Hence, on these recent results, local and otherwise, with the resources available, and with the incoming #1 overall recruit having played most of her freshman season, UConn, for me, is the clear cut #1 overall seed. Nothing to do with local bias (I'm not coach's biggest fan when it comes to in-game adjustments, and rotations) the results with, and without, speak for themselves.
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Are we just ignoring the Tennessee loss then?
 
PacoSwede said:
seems uconn only had 7 Quad1 games, far less than the others -- if it had those extra games, it would be a more legit comparison, so the criterion is weighted against uconn regardless of the results, right? if so, while that criterion is OK, it should not have outsized influence.
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And if UConn had gone 6-1 in those games, they'd likely be a 1 seed, possibly the first or second 1.
 
DrummerDee said:
#7 LSU loses to #20 Alabama
#8 UNC loses to #16 Duke
#3 ND loses to #24 FSU
#11 TN loses to # 15
#1 TX barely eeks out a win over unranked MSState.

Wow. That Bracket reveal won't last long.

Let's see how Cremepuff explains away the reasons why UConn STILL doesn't deserve a 1 seed. I can assure you that SC will be put right back on that #1 line, and the ND loss will be for any reason other than their lack of team play.
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How would UConn get a 1 seed? The committee had us at #6 overall. The only team ahead of us who lost was Notre Dame, which in an absolute best case scenario could bump us to #5.

Persecution complex is something else.
 
bballnut90 said:
Are we just ignoring the Tennessee loss then?
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Discounting, not ignoring, as Azzi Fudd was still ramping up playing time, reintegrating into squad, and Sarah Strong was progressing through her freshman year. But, technically, point taken, 1 loss. Still top seed overall, for me, against the current run of form in the leagues.
 
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snowkot said:
Discounting, not ignoring, as Azzi Fudd was still ramping up playing time, reintegrating into squad, and Sarah Strong was progressing through her freshman year. But, technically, point taken, 1 loss. Still top seed overall, for me, against the current run of form in the leagues.
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Azzi came back against USC on Dec. 21. The Tennessee game was on Feb. 6. Surely by Feb. 6 she was ramped up and reintegrated?
 
Rowdy831 said:
ND really has 4 bad losses this year or at least losses that were surprising based on the talent of their roster. The only way SC gets a 1 seed in the end if if they win the SEC or UCLA loses twice to USC. UConn has a great chance at a 1 and really could end the season right where they started, at the 2 position. Still a lot of basketball to play and potentially a lot of excuses from CC for the teams he favors.
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CC has picked UConn in his personal final four.:)

In bracketology, he only tries to predict what the committee will do. So he is predicting what teams the committee favors, and the excuses he uses are the published criteria for the committee seeding process.
 
Plebe said:
How would UConn get a 1 seed? The committee had us at #6 overall. The only team ahead of us who lost was Notre Dame, which in an absolute best case scenario could bump us to #5.

Persecution complex is something else.
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As Uncle Edna used to tell us kids, “Always remember to pillage before you burn.” ;)
 
Who cares what Charlie Creme thinks? It baffles me how anyone, except perhaps out of loyalty to their team, could think that UConn should be a 1 seed this year. They are an absolutely legitimate 2 seed, no lower, but to rank them as a1 [uts them ahead of UCLA (which will be a very bad match-up for them), Notre Dame (Hidalgo loves to pay UConn. Need say more?); USC (JuJu is like Hidalgo in this regard) and Texas (which looks to me to present all sorts of matchup problems as well).

Is UConn a good team? Absolutely. Will they go far in the NCAAs? Sure, barring some weirdness in the scheduling. But they just don't have the record to merit a 1 seed, no matter what the margin of victory at Marquette is.
 
tomcat said:
Who cares what Charlie Creme thinks? It baffles me how anyone, except perhaps out of loyalty to their team, could think that UConn should be a 1 seed this year. They are an absolutely legitimate 2 seed, no lower, but to rank them as a1 [uts them ahead of UCLA (which will be a very bad match-up for them), Notre Dame (Hidalgo loves to pay UConn. Need say more?); USC (JuJu is like Hidalgo in this regard) and Texas (which looks to me to present all sorts of matchup problems as well).

Is UConn a good team? Absolutely. Will they go far in the NCAAs? Sure, barring some weirdness in the scheduling. But they just don't have the record to merit a 1 seed, no matter what the margin of victory at Marquette is.
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There is the quality of roster and the quality of record. ND arguably has the higest quality roster and the worse quality record, so how would you seed them. Arguably ND and Uconn have the best rosters and the worst records, should either be a one seed
 
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triaddukefan said:
This crap again? Utsby had 11 turnovers in the first matchup. Chapel Hill wasn't winning the game on Senior Night regardless. Lemme log off before i say too much.
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The UNC was without TWO starters: Allyssa Utsby 6'1" and
without another STARTER: # 10 Reniya Kelly, 5'7" Sophomore
Guard who had started 28 out of 28 games. Kelly's FG % is .436, her
three point % is .419 and her free throw % is .857 with a 10.1 ppg average.
Please note: her assist total is 63, her turnover total is 36 with an A/T.O.
ratio of 1.75. So Utsby was not the only factor in UNC's loss to
DUKE. The source of this information is the UNC WBB webpage.
check the source by going to the UNC webpage and clicking "NEWS" and read the game article. The KELLY data is also from the UNC WBB web page chick on "STATS" (as of 3/1/2025). It should be an interesting ACC Conference TOURNAMENT!
 
bballnut90 said:
Thanks for saying this. Ustby is a good player but it’s not like they’re without an All American go to player. The same UNC team was able to beat NC State without Ustby in the lineup. Whether she played or not, Duke deserves full credit for their 15 point win over UNC.
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See additional information under this thread topic, i.e. # 43, about UNC Starter Reniya. Kelly was also "out" for this game vs DUKE. Do you think that
UCONN, or any team, might lose a game to a quality opponent if TWO of the HUSKY
starters were unable to play? I think so. Both teams UNC and DUKE are VERY GOOD. The UNC loss however must in viewed in the CONTEXT of my original comment: thread # 14. The Tar Heels were down TWO Critical Players.
 
Zarathustra said:
See additional information under this thread topic, i.e. # 43, about UNC Starter Reniya. Kelly was also "out" for this game vs DUKE. Do you think that
UCONN, or any team, might lose a game to a quality opponent if TWO of the HUSKY
starters were unable to play? I think so. Both teams UNC and DUKE are VERY GOOD. The UNC loss however must in viewed in the CONTEXT of my original comment: thread # 14. The Tar Heels were down TWO Critical Players.
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Wow so hard to read with all tbe extra capital letters
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Do we? When was the last time we won a national championship as something other than a #1 seed?
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I guess there was a year that we were #2 and Penn State was the number 1 …
 
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Maybe the rules for selecting and seeding need to be reposted for our largely uninitiated brethren to read and comprehend.

Far too many posters are thinking with their heart and not their head. Big picture, there are 7 teams in my view with the talent or talent and coaching to win it all.

UCLA and USC clearly have great talent and depth if not questionable coaching.eventually one of them could win it all.
ND has 7 high quality players and an up and coming coach but they have as of yet to win any big games in March under Ivey’s tutelage. Could this be their year?
SCar, UConn and LSU have the talent and proven coaching staffs to perform well and win it all.
Texas has talent and a respected coach capable so they have to be considered a favorite.
Two other teams I am curious about are:
NC State and Kentucky seem a tad light on talent to me to make a serious run but teams and coaches can get hot as both Moore and Brooks have proven in the past.
Seeding of #1 or #2 won’t matter as the Elite 8 will be quality teams. Why everyone is so perseverated on the 1 seed is excessive and silly.
Let’s watch the last game at home, the 3 BET games and then see how the other conferences proceed.
 
DefenseBB said:
Maybe the rules for selecting and seeding need to be reposted for our largely uninitiated brethren to read and comprehend.

Far too many posters are thinking with their heart and not their head. Big picture, there are 7 teams in my view with the talent or talent and coaching to win it all.

UCLA and USC clearly have great talent and depth if not questionable coaching.eventually one of them could win it all.
ND has 7 high quality players and an up and coming coach but they have as of yet to win any big games in March under Ivey’s tutelage. Could this be their year?
SCar, UConn and LSU have the talent and proven coaching staffs to perform well and win it all.
Texas has talent and a respected coach capable so they have to be considered a favorite.
Two other teams I am curious about are:
NC State and Kentucky seem a tad light on talent to me to make a serious run but teams and coaches can get hot as both Moore and Brooks have proven in the past.
Seeding of #1 or #2 won’t matter as the Elite 8 will be quality teams. Why everyone is so perseverated on the 1 seed is excessive and silly.
Let’s watch the last game at home, the 3 BET games and then see how the other conferences proceed.
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Zanzman said:
Wow so hard to read with all tbe extra capital letters
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Sorry about that!. I tend to use 'caps' to provide emphasis.
I not a "shouter", i.e. using caps, by any stretch of imagination!
The conference championship should be very enlightening and
entertaining. GO HUSKIES!!!
 
Zarathustra said:
See additional information under this thread topic, i.e. # 43, about UNC Starter Reniya. Kelly was also "out" for this game vs DUKE. Do you think that
UCONN, or any team, might lose a game to a quality opponent if TWO of the HUSKY
starters were unable to play? I think so. Both teams UNC and DUKE are VERY GOOD. The UNC loss however must in viewed in the CONTEXT of my original comment: thread # 14. The Tar Heels were down TWO Critical Players.
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MEH.

Possibly, but I sure wouldn't be going into a thread POINTING that out. Anyway, I doubt the two teams will meet again this season, but I would love to see it in Greensboro. There are few things finer than knocking off the Evil Empire in the ACC Tournament.
 
HuskyNan said:
Regional was in Hartford, lol. Penn State was not happy about that
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Uconn completly shut down Kelly Mazzanti in that game. No matter where it was played penn state was not gonna win with mazzanti in tears during the game.
 
Rowdy831 said:
ND really has 4 bad losses this year or at least losses that were surprising based on the talent of their roster. The only way SC gets a 1 seed in the end if if they win the SEC or UCLA loses twice to USC. UConn has a great chance at a 1 and really could end the season right where they started, at the 2 position. Still a lot of basketball to play and potentially a lot of excuses from CC for the teams he favors.
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In the SEC, the regular season champion is recognized as the legit champion and the tournament champion is for automatic bid. The ACC recognize their tournament champion as the true champion. Sc needs to beat Kentucky tomorrow and if Texas win tomorrow there would be co- champions in the SEC. Is that what you mean by winning the SEC?
 
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Two current # 1 seeds (USC v. UCLA) tonight. So. Cal wins at Pauley 80-67.
 
Zarathustra said:
The UNC was without TWO starters: Allyssa Utsby 6'1" and
without another STARTER: # 10 Reniya Kelly, 5'7" Sophomore
Guard who had started 28 out of 28 games. Kelly's FG % is .436, her
three point % is .419 and her free throw % is .857 with a 10.1 ppg average.
Please note: her assist total is 63, her turnover total is 36 with an A/T.O.
ratio of 1.75. So Utsby was not the only factor in UNC's loss to
DUKE. The source of this information is the UNC WBB webpage.
check the source by going to the UNC webpage and clicking "NEWS" and read the game article. The KELLY data is also from the UNC WBB web page chick on "STATS" (as of 3/1/2025). It should be an interesting ACC Conference TOURNAMENT!
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UConn was missing Azzi & Aubrey or Aubrey & Ice for their losses. Let’s just cross our fingers for a healthy team!
 
triaddukefan said:
Chapel Hill loses again* This time lowly UVA wins in Chapel Hill for the first time since 2001.... 16 straight losses* Final Score 78-75 after trailing by 11 at halftime. **

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Ouch
 
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