Officiating

[UCTitleTown]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. As a former official, let me assure you that SLIDING on the floor with possession of the ball is NOT a violation. It is perhaps the single greatest misconception by armchair refs. ROLLING OVER while possessing the ball IS a violation.

What about calling a timeout while sliding?

 

[navery12]

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but on the breakaway for Whaley at the end of OT, shouldn't they have called an intentional foul because the defender shoved him when he was in the air. There was no play on the ball. Just curious.

I think they looked, it seemed like there was a quick delay. I'm assuming they didn't care since the game was over

 

[uchuskies2009]

RJ’s travel call when he jumped and dribbled before his feet hit the ground.

You cannot legally begin a dribble with both feet off the ground once a pivot foot is established. That is why RJs was a travel. Once he jumped off the ground with both feet he gave up his pivot and ability to start a dribble.

 

[Viet Vet]

How about when the kid from VCU caught the ball out of bounds and the refs went over to the announcers and asked "what do you guys have?"

Because the announcing crew had (as was stated) a larger monitor, thus easier to view.

 

[jibsey]

Jimmy Dykes said it was a travel and he was informing the Refs on rules they were unaware of....so I'll go with Jimmy.

Why were the refs checking with the broadcaster? I saw that too.

 

[Viet Vet]

Or Jackson's tip-in that was called a goal tend?

Not goaltending, basket interference. If interested in the distinction, please ask.

 

[ucp990411]

You cannot legally begin a dribble with both feet off the ground once a pivot foot is established. That is why RJs was a travel. Once he jumped off the ground with both feet he gave up his pivot and ability to start a dribble.

Wouldn’t it not be a travel unless his feet hit the ground and he still had the ball? You might be right about the rule but the rule doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[uchuskies2009]

Wouldn’t it not be a travel unless his feet hit the ground and he still had the ball? You might be right about the rule but the rule doesn’t make sense to me.

Once he put the ball down and attempted the dribble it became a traveling violation.

 

[Kolumbo]

You cannot legally begin a dribble with both feet off the ground once a pivot foot is established. That is why RJs was a travel. Once he jumped off the ground with both feet he gave up his pivot and ability to start a dribble.

Interesting. I didn't see the play but I am curious. I assume he had not yet dribbled. So once he establishes his pivot, he can jump and shoot or pass but not dribble. That doesn't make sense to me but I don't study the rule book.

 

[ucp990411]

Another odd play was when Sanogo couldn’t decide to inbound the ball. He had one foot inbounds and one foot out of bounds and handed the ball to Polley I believe who was out of bounds. That is a violation.

 

[ucp990411]

Once he put the ball down and attempted the dribble it became a traveling violation.

After he dribbled once he picked the ball up

 

[Kolumbo]

Another odd play was when Sanogo couldn’t decide to inbound the ball. He had one foot inbounds and one foot out of bounds and handed the ball to Polley I believe who was out of bounds. That is a violation.

If you inbounds the ball with one foot inbounds, that is a violation and a turnover. However, since Polley was out of bounds, the ball was never inbounded and therefore no violation occurred. How did I do?

 

[Viet Vet]

What about calling a timeout while sliding?

As long as the person sliding has "player control" (he did), time out may be called by that team (himself, his teammates on the floor, or the head coach).

 

[ucp990411]

If you inbounds the ball with one foot inbounds, that is a violation and a turnover. However, since Polley was out of bounds, the ball was never inbounded and therefore no violation occurred. How did I do?

ah, also it was after a made basket so he could have legally passed to someone out of bounds

 

[ucp990411]

The call when Polley made a bounce pass inbounding that bounced out of bounds is a call rarely made but the right call

 

[Hamms30]

Why were the refs checking with the broadcaster? I saw that too.

Officials came over to the broadcaster table to announce the decision. The broadcaster told him it looks like the VCU player caught the ball out of bounds and was never in and clock shouldn't move. The ref asked do you guys have a better shot of the play? What do you have?

 

[Hamms30]

Was the Sanogo shot clock violation against MSU really because they started the shot clock on UConn at 20 instead of 30? I saw mention of it somewhere, but can't find a clip to check it. If so.. that was a killer because the buzzer went off as he made his pivot and laid it in. I think we still would have had a lead after RJ's 5th foul at that point too.

 

[SeattleHoop]

Or Jackson's tip-in that was called a goal tend?

That was horrendous

 

[BGesus4]

The amount of horrendous calls in both directions in all three games was insane. Depending on how many and which you corrected we could’ve gone 3-0 or 0-3.

The outcome of every game was decided by which team was going to get the bigger balance of the refs ineptitude. Ridiculous

 

[Improviser]

Jamie Lucky deserves prison for the amount of horrendous calls he made.

Maybe he is at the age when he is close to retirement and looking for his officials' pension (if they have one or if he thinks there is one).

He doesn't want to quit or be seen as a quitter, so with enough bad calls, maybe he gets fired and collects his pension? No willful misconduct to justify denying a pension. Maybe, that is his plan.

Just kidding, but sometimes when a course of action defies logic, it may be logical to the one acting a certain way.

I forgot his name, but there was one official Calhoun did not like and the feeling was mutual. I think he Tee'd up Calhoun many times. Like anything else in life, there are good and bad officials. Though today, I think he made bad calls both ways.

Will we be seeing him in any Big East games?

 

[ucp990411]

It was atrocious…yesterday against MSU cost us that game (we didn’t help ourselves but still had the lead with 30 seconds left when that call was made against Cole). Never thought I’d miss Tim Higgins until these last 3 days.

Tim Higgins was one of the best. Did our game on 3/29/99 and did not give in to the usual Duke flop act. That was a tremendously refereed game.

 

[navery12]

Was the Sanogo shot clock violation against MSU really because they started the shot clock on UConn at 20 instead of 30? I saw mention of it somewhere, but can't find a clip to check it. If so.. that was a killer because the buzzer went off as he made his pivot and laid it in. I think we still would have had a lead after RJ's 5th foul at that point too.

I can't take a screenshot from the ESPN app, they black out the screen when you do. But yes the shot clock reset to 20 before that possession

 

[Kolumbo]

Let's talk about lousy refs.

Jim Burr. One of the all-time greats at sucking.

 

[willie99]

I thought the other 2 refs weren't terrible. I expect a few bad calls per game from each ref. But Lucky had at least 10 bad calls that game. I mean... just not even close to correct. He's old... needs to retire.

The modern day version of John Cahill? A documented and undeniable hater. Jimmy owned penthouse in his head

 

[mauconnfan]

The one the crew should be held accountable was the call on the out of bounds supposedly off of RJs knee in the MSU game. The fact you get to review and see you’re crew buddy blew it but you stick up for the call should be a reason to suspend or fine a crew. Absolutely unacceptable.

 

[ucp990411]

Let's talk about lousy refs.

Jim Burr. One of the all-time greats at sucking.

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Disagree. He was a very good ref, but too often made the game about him.

 

[willie99]

It is traveling when a player possessing the ball falls to the floor without maintaining a pivot foot

If he's not possessing the ball, then you cannot call time out.

Can't have it both ways
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Also, a player who falls to the floor while possessing the ball may not gain an advantage by sliding. It's not rocket science, we've all seen that traveling called hundreds of times.

Again, it's either a travel or no timeout can be awarded.

 

[willie99]

The one the crew should be held accountable was the call on the out of bounds supposedly off of RJs knee in the MSU game. The fact you get to review and see you’re crew buddy blew it but you stick up for the call should be a reason to suspend or fine a crew. Absolutely unacceptable.

So so so many bad calls down the stretch. There should be consequences for such incompetence

 

[JB75]

On the flipside -how about the call that went in our favor when they said the Auburn guy fouled polley on a three point shot right before halftime Wednesday? that was bad too —but the killer of all killers was the Call on cole in the MSU game. Brutal officiating all tourney.

 

[Deadrody]

It's not a travel unless they try to get up or roll over, assuming they are sliding only on their momentum from grabbing the loose ball.

Which they did, every single time