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WingU-Conn said:
I don't know how to make it any simpler than Cochran=/=Boyle

You can't assume similar results for a different player. Is that hard to grasp?[/

First, I am the one telling you not to assume. Nice try attempting to twist that to save face.
Second, the fact that they are different people does not mean that the resulting level of play would not be the same. Can you comprehend that?
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The people arguing that Whitmer should remain the starter are doing it from a seat perched on top of rapidly thinning ice.

Whitmer is a decent back-up, Boyle is now the franchise.

The only sound argument for not playing Boyle would be that you think our pass protection is so bad and the season so lost that you don't want to see Boyle get hurt, every other argument is a fail. Fortunately Diaco is not someone who plays scared.

Play Boyle. He showed improvement today over last years performance and can help us win now.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
The people arguing that Whitmer should remain the starter are doing it from a seat perched on top of rapidly thinning ice.

Whitmer is a decent back-up, Boyle is now the franchise.

The only sound argument for not playing Boyle would be that you think our pass protection is so bad and the season so lost that you don't want to see Boyle get hurt, every other argument is a fail. Fortunately Diaco is not someone who plays scared.

Play Boyle.
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I love how you've invoked Diaco's name in your analysis that Whitmer shouldn't be the starter. Feel free to tell me what Diaco did to the Whitmer / Boyle split after Boyle's first series? When did we see him next? That should tell you everything you need to know about Diaco's thoughts on the matter.

And this is meant in no way to be a slight on Boyle. If two separate people didn't drop his passes, he has a TD today. But to think that Boyle is currently better than Whitmer is not only wrong, it's also in disagreement with Diaco's assessment as well..
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love how you've invoked Diaco's name in your analysis that Whitmer shouldn't be the starter. Feel free to tell me what Diaco did to the Whitmer / Boyle split after Boyle's first series? When did we see him next? That should tell you everything you need to know about Diaco's thoughts on the matter.

And this is meant in no way to be a slight on Boyle. If two separate people didn't drop his passes, he has a TD today. But to think that Boyle is currently better than Whitmer is not only wrong, it's also in disagreement with Diaco's assessment as well..
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So says the guy who insisted all off season that Whitmer was better than Cochran. Your track record on QB analysis is not very good even though you are genuinely a super fan and a worthy poster.

I'm willing to bet right now that Boyle sees his playing time increase next week, that will tell us what Diaco thinks on this issue.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
So says the guy who insisted all off season that Whitmer was better than Cochran. Your track record here is not very good even though you are genuinely a super fan and a worthy poster.

I'm willing to bet right now that Boyle sees his playing time increase next week.
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You're a clown.

Please show me some of my "all season" insistence that Whitmer was better than Cochran. I have consistently said, all season, that we could win with both. That we would get similar results with both. I still stand by that assessment, even though I hate that Casey will never have the chance to play again. But if you think that Boyle and Whitmer are equivalent currently, then you aren't watching the game impartially. And I'm saying that to someone who DEFINITELY has killed Whitmer on posts every chance he gets...
 
UConnDan97 said:
You're a clown.

Please show me some of my "all season" insistence that Whitmer was better than Cochran. I have consistently said, all season, that we could win with both. That we would get similar results with both. I still stand by that assessment, even though I hate that Casey will never have the chance to play again. But if you think that Boyle and Whitmer are equivalent currently, then you aren't watching the game impartially. And I'm saying that to someone who DEFINITELY has killed Whitmer on posts every chance he gets...
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Wow you just backtracked like a lying politician. You were not a staunch Whitmer guy all off season, you are now saying you were neutral? Give me a break Nelson.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Wow you just backtracked like a lying politician. You were not a Whitmer guy all off season? Give me a break Nelson.
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This is why I'm calling you a clown. Because I think that most people on the board would tell you EXACTLY THAT. So it means that either your reading comprehension is bad, or you are just looking to pick a fight. Go back into earlier threads involving the QBs. There are plenty of them to choose from, and I'm always posting, so have at it. I have consistently said that we could win with both Whitmer and Cochran. I have consistently said that one does a better job of quick release and game management, while the other one does a better job with his feet and on the long ball. I have never wavered in that assessment. So go look for a fight somewhere else...
 
I'll save Metsfan the trouble of looking one up. Here is my direct quote from a thread titled "Whitmer Supporters", page 2:

"I'm a Whitmer supporter.
I'm a Whitmer supporter primarily because I'm a UConn supporter. It never ceases to amaze me how many UConn supporters behave in a fashion that doesn't support UConn. I'm also a Cochran supporter, for full disclosure. And there would be no way in hell that I would support playing Cochran if he had a concussion today, no matter how bad of a game Whitmer had. And giving Boyle an extra year separation from Cochran is the right thing to do.
Now, if people really want something to chew on, I want to know how on earth our team averaged 2.2 yard per carry and 88 total yards on the ground against an FCS team. Answer that question, and then we will have identified the biggest issue in my mind..."

Notice how I talk about being a Cochran supporter as well, along with the fact that at the time, I was looking to give Boyle an extra year of separation from....COCHRAN! Uggh...
 
CTBasketball said:
1st throw was a mistake and Geremy bailed him out. If Geremy didn't redirect his route that was a pick. The second throw was good.
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Yeah, when Whitmer pointed to the sideline before he threw the ball, he wasn't telling Geremy Davis where to go, he was telling Diaco he was on his way to discuss dinner plans with him.

A mistake? LMAO
 
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He had opportunities to make plays and didn't make them. He's not good enough to overcome the teams weaknesses. These guys aren't perfect but they are good enough to win some games if they had a game changing/play making QB. Whitmer is the type of QB that needs everyone around him to be good for him to be good. Some QBs can simply make plays when their team needs them. That is not him. He's not going to fit a throw in between 2 defenders when we need a TD like Boise's QB did. He's not going to make plays with his legs when we need them like BYU's QB. He's not a play maker. He's a guy that needs everything to go right on a play for him to make something happen.

This post is supposed to in response to weyuo but the quote didn't work for some reason.
 
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Blue Loyalist said:
We can beat USF with Whitmer at QB. Let's not screw around next week.
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Sadly I disagree. I don't think he can win games. He will throw a pick or get sacked when we need a play. He's been doing just that for 3 years.
 
Whitmer made a lot of nice throws today. I actually think he handled the pressure very well. He also made some great decisions getting rid of the ball and he had a few good runs. We've seen him play pretty well and then have some killer picks at the absolutely worst time. He did it again today. He does enough to keep his job but not enough to cement it. I think the leash is getting shorter and he will need to put a complete game together (hitting open receivers and no bad pick) or Boyle will become a viable option. Leading the team to wins changes all of that.
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love how you've invoked Diaco's name in your analysis that Whitmer shouldn't be the starter. Feel free to tell me what Diaco did to the Whitmer / Boyle split after Boyle's first series? When did we see him next? That should tell you everything you need to know about Diaco's thoughts on the matter.

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Hmmm, from Fuller's post game report:

"Diaco went out of his way to rave about what he saw from Tim Boyle. "

I agree with Diaco, I really liked what I saw from Boyle too. Play the franchise.
 
UConnDan97 said:
I love how you've invoked Diaco's name in your analysis that Whitmer shouldn't be the starter. Feel free to tell me what Diaco did to the Whitmer / Boyle split after Boyle's first series? When did we see him next? That should tell you everything you need to know about Diaco's thoughts on the matter.

And this is meant in no way to be a slight on Boyle. If two separate people didn't drop his passes, he has a TD today. But to think that Boyle is currently better than Whitmer is not only wrong, it's also in disagreement with Diaco's assessment as well..
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Totally disagree with your assessment of what went down. Diaco bailed on his script which was totally inappropriate for the situation. Putting Tim in at that time was a mistake and putting him in to throw a couple of dink passes was a joke. Realizing the silliness of what happened they reversed course and bailed on any pretense of using Tim in a close game even when his arm could have been an asset. They screwed up and got cold feet. Scripts are great on Broadway but not so great on Saturdays.
 
metsfan2323 said:
The people arguing that Whitmer should remain the starter are doing it from a seat perched on top of rapidly thinning ice.

Whitmer is a decent back-up, Boyle is now the franchise.

The only sound argument for not playing Boyle would be that you think our pass protection is so bad and the season so lost that you don't want to see Boyle get hurt, every other argument is a fail. Fortunately Diaco is not someone who plays scared.

Play Boyle. He showed improvement today over last years performance and can help us win now.
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How many passes did he complete today?
 
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You guys will get your shot at seeing TB vs USF. They appear to have a horrible defense. I expect to see TB run a few series in the first half.
 
I think Whitmer gives us a better shot to win this season despite his shortcomings, I.e. throwing picks in critical spots in close games.

I thought Boyle made some nice throws today but I'm not sure if I'm ready to hand him the keys.

I think the staff has to weigh if the incremental difference in CW to TB is worth 1,2,3, etc wins and how much game action would benefit TB for next season.

I'm in the camp that says we NEED to get back to bowling, so if the staff thinks CW gets us an extra win, then we have to roll the dice with him.
 
Hey playing Boyle makes all the sense in the world. 2016 is right around the corner. Who cares about next week.

Plus it's great to have the first pick in the draft.
 
SubbaBub said:
I've yet to see Boyle do anything except make two passes against a prevent defense. I'm not bailing on the season (again) so we can play musical QB's and end up right back where we started. With a below average QB playing behind a horrible Oline with no running game. WTF are you backup groupies expecting to happen? Boyle has a stronger arm and MAY be more accurate but there is more to it than that.
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What have you seen from Whitmer that says he will lead UCONN to a bowl game? Tell me that
 
Now that you've burned his redshirt, you might as well give him all the reps and experience you can. Whitmer is gone after this season regardless. Boyle is the future of this program.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Hmmm, from Fuller's post game report:

"Diaco went out of his way to rave about what he saw from Tim Boyle. "

I agree with Diaco, I really liked what I saw from Boyle too. Play the franchise.
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Which is why he waited to play him until the final moments of the game. Good point...
 
Whitmer is the fastest guy to run into traffic...after one look, it's tuck and run time right into a defender. It's Boyle time but he needs to take notes from Casey about pocket awareness.
 
Dooley said:
Obi was horrendous today. The first Boise TD was 150% on him. #2 was jogging open from the 20 yard on in. The pass interference call on him in the 2nd half was equally bad. His pursuit angles have gotten worse, not better. I like what I see from Summers (good in run support too). Need to make a change back there I think.
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I believe it would be Marder for Obi. I have no idea what happened to him. His mistakes are many and can be huge.
 
Is someone really arguing that because Whitmer hit his quota of two good passes a game that is enough for him to be the starter and for UConn to win?
 
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