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Dooley said:
Brew Crew and Yanks line up for a swap of Gray for INF depth. Some of their depth are certainly worthy of adding a prospect or two to the deal if needed.
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Not sure how much depth they have with moose a fa.

If you’d buy low on schoop I’m sure there would be some interest in a deal.
 
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I have no problem with CC deal. Probably could give him a lifetime "Tim Wakefield" contract at this point. He's great for the clubhouse and he eats up pretty good quality innings. I know we're not supposed to celebrate when pitchers hit batters, but his leadership was on full display down in Tampa forgoing incentives pay in order to protect his teammates.

That said, I'd like CC even more if he was a 6th / spot starter. Or as one of those innings 2-6 guy in the event the Yanks decide to try out one of those "Opener" type of games.
 
Looks like the Yanks have checked in on Kluber, Carrasco and James Paxton. All three are interesting names. Seattle is entertaining a full rebuild and boy they have a few players that could net a haul. Will be interesting to see if they could convince a team to take on some of their bad contracts or if they try to maximize trade value for Paxton, Diaz, Segura, etc without lowering by attaching a bad contract.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
There's talk in the local paper that the Yanks may try to sign Dan Murphy for a left bat, infield depth and to help with 2B, especially with Didi out. I actually like the idea as I see such a move as an upgrade over Niel Walker, especially as a lefty bat, can provide insurance at 1B if Voit and/or Bird have issues and even fill in at 3B on rest days for other players. That talk is that the Yanks will go after him even if the Yanks go after Manny Machado.

Thus, the Yank's 'regular' 2019 infield would be 1B Voit/Bird, 2B Murphy, SS Torres, 3B Machado. Andujar would thus become a key part of a trade to land another starting pitcher.

My primary concern is with player management. Do the Yanks want to deal with 2 players in Machado and Sanchez that seem to have work ethic challenges.
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Don't see the Yanks going for Machado. To trade Andujar it would have to be a blockbuster deal. Andujar can improve his fielding. He is not "work ethic" challenged. And his bat is as good as Machado and I believe he is younger.

Murphy could be a decent pickup for one year.
 
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huskeynut said:
Don't see the Yanks going for Machado. To trade Andujar it would have to be a blockbuster deal. Andujar can improve his fielding. He is not "work ethic" challenged. And his bat is as good as Machado and I believe he is younger.

Murphy could be a decent pickup for one year.
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I don’t think that last part is true. Not yet anyway. We’ll see if he can keep this up.
 
Could very well be posturing, but it seems like every indication is the Yanks will prefer to stay under the luxury tax limit. Harper to the Yankees "is not happening" according to a bunch of website reports, which is fine by me since Harper doesn't play CI or pitch. I'm hoping he doesn't sign with the Giants either as I'm selfishly hoping that Cashman can extract Bumgarner out of the Bay area.

Viva The Hot Stove!
 
Dooley said:
Could very well be posturing, but it seems like every indication is the Yanks will prefer to stay under the luxury tax limit. Harper to the Yankees "is not happening" according to a bunch of website reports, which is fine by me since Harper doesn't play CI or pitch. I'm hoping he doesn't sign with the Giants either as I'm selfishly hoping that Cashman can extract Bumgarner out of the Bay area.

Viva The Hot Stove!
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Dodgers told investors that they plan on staying under the tax for the next 4 years or so.
 
Also of consideration for the Yankees now that they are under luxury tax threshold, when do they lock up Aaron Judge? He's still in pre-Arb years but I think everyone in and out of baseball can see he's worth FAR more than $600K/yr. (The next CBA will need to address this but I digress.) Anyway, I would like to see the Yanks buyout Judge's upcoming arb years and perhaps 1 or 2 FA years (if they can). 5 yrs / $100M? That takes Judge through his age 32 season if he wants to play the free agent market. That also keeps the twin towers in pinstripes during their prime years for when the Yankees' deep system starts being promoting upward. I'd also have zero issue going longer. More injury risk, especially with that big body, but I think locking up the face of the franchise over the long haul sends a strong message to the talent on the farm and even outside the organization.

When it comes down to it, I'd rather see the Yanks play "frugal" this offseason. Use some excess cash for Corbin/Happ/pitching and to buy out some arb/FA years for their own homegrown talent. They'll eventually need to do the same with Severino, Torres, Andujar, Sanchez (if they don't move on from C), etc, but I think we all agree that Judge is a huge star in the game and should be compensated at a (MUCH!) higher level than $600K/yr.
 
Dooley said:
Also of consideration for the Yankees now that they are under luxury tax threshold, when do they lock up Aaron Judge? He's still in pre-Arb years but I think everyone in and out of baseball can see he's worth FAR more than $600K/yr. (The next CBA will need to address this but I digress.) Anyway, I would like to see the Yanks buyout Judge's upcoming arb years and perhaps 1 or 2 FA years (if they can). 5 yrs / $100M? That takes Judge through his age 32 season if he wants to play the free agent market. That also keeps the twin towers in pinstripes during their prime years for when the Yankees' deep system starts being promoting upward. I'd also have zero issue going longer. More injury risk, especially with that big body, but I think locking up the face of the franchise over the long haul sends a strong message to the talent on the farm and even outside the organization.

When it comes down to it, I'd rather see the Yanks play "frugal" this offseason. Use some excess cash for Corbin/Happ/pitching and to buy out some arb/FA years for their own homegrown talent. They'll eventually need to do the same with Severino, Torres, Andujar, Sanchez (if they don't move on from C), etc, but I think we all agree that Judge is a huge star in the game and should be compensated at a (MUCH!) higher level than $600K/yr.
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Boras clients tend to not do this.

I think Corbin has to be the guy.
 
the Q said:
Boras clients tend to not do this.

I think Corbin has to be the guy.
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Good thing Judge is not a Boras client. :) I think Sanchez is though...but that's not a big deal. Zero need to buy out his arb years until he improves defensively.

Agree - Corbin is target #1.
 
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Dooley said:
Good thing Judge is not a Boras client. :) I think Sanchez is though...but that's not a big deal. Zero need to buy out his arb years until he improves defensively.

Agree - Corbin is target #1.
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I was just Saying in general. I thought severino was a Boras client too. But apparently he’s not.
 
the Q said:
I was just Saying in general. I thought severino was a Boras client too. But apparently he’s not.
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If I were the GM, I would state it plainly:
If you are represented by Boras, don't bother considering playing for us, we will not speak to you, we will not consider you, we will not sign you. Don't care who it is or how desperately we need a player in a given position. If Boras is the agent, then the player is persona non grata. It would certainly change the dynamics of negotiations for the entire MLB and most definitely improve the landscape.
 
boba said:
If I were the GM, I would state it plainly:
If you are represented by Boras, don't bother considering playing for us, we will not speak to you, we will not consider you, we will not sign you. Don't care who it is or how desperately we need a player in a given position. If Boras is the agent, then the player is persona non grata. It would certainly change the dynamics of negotiations for the entire MLB and most definitely improve the landscape.
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And the players you draft?

Also, boras poaches up and coming minor leaguers like a mofo.

and....agents can be fired at any time basically at will. Are you gonna trade any player/prospect who hires him?
 
boba said:
If I were the GM, I would state it plainly:
If you are represented by Boras, don't bother considering playing for us, we will not speak to you, we will not consider you, we will not sign you. Don't care who it is or how desperately we need a player in a given position. If Boras is the agent, then the player is persona non grata. It would certainly change the dynamics of negotiations for the entire MLB and most definitely improve the landscape.
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What's wrong with a guy who get his clients paid? Jim Bouton said it best when he was asked if players deserve all that money. He said, "No, but they deserve it more than the owners."
 
Waquoit said:
What's wrong with a guy who get his clients paid? Jim Bouton said it best when he was asked if players deserve all that money. He said, "No, but they deserve it more than the owners."
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The problem with Boras is not the money. The problem is that he makes negotiations about him, and not the player.
 
With the giants new gm hire, I think a bumgarner trade just became more likely.
 
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Danzz said:
The Yankees need top of the order on base players. They have to have contact hitters at the top of the lineup who can take pitches and hit with 2 strikes.
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So Cutch...
 
I love Cutch. He's long been one of my favorite non-Yankee players in all of baseball. But the Yanks have way too much OF depth to justify paying top dollar on another one. In fact, there is enough quality OF depth to engage plenty of clubs into trade talks to address some 25 or 40 man weaknesses.

Spend luxury tax savings on pitching. That's it.
 
the Q said:
With the giants new gm hire, I think a bumgarner trade just became more likely.
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Yup. Honestly, this is one of the reasons why I think the Yanks/Giants line up for a deal here. New GM. Bochy has 1 year left on his deal. And the nucleus of those World Series clubs has either retired or started their post age 30 year season declines. Their farm is thin and could use a talent injection from selling off a player or two. Also makes sense to begin rebuilding now so that they can compete with the Padres in 2-3 years when the Dodgers start to fade.
 
Dooley said:
I love Cutch. He's long been one of my favorite non-Yankee players in all of baseball. But the Yanks have way too much OF depth to justify paying top dollar on another one. In fact, there is enough quality OF depth to engage plenty of clubs into trade talks to address some 25 or 40 man weaknesses.

Spend luxury tax savings on pitching. That's it.
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I agree, just saying he fit exactly what you need at the top of the lineup.
 
Dooley said:
Yup. Honestly, this is one of the reasons why I think the Yanks/Giants line up for a deal here. New GM. Bochy has 1 year left on his deal. And the nucleus of those World Series clubs has either retired or started their post age 30 year season declines. Their farm is thin and could use a talent injection from selling off a player or two. Also makes sense to begin rebuilding now so that they can compete with the Padres in 2-3 years when the Dodgers start to fade.
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If the giants trade Bum, they need to burn the roster to the ground marlins style
 
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the Q said:
If the giants trade Bum, they need to burn the roster to the ground marlins style
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Probably. And full scale rebuild is such a tough sell in that market. San Fran loves their Giants - they draw very well.

Of course, things could go the other way and they ink Harper and/or Machado and go all in again. I'm very interested to see what vision new management has for that franchise. At some point, they'll have to restock the farm but they might decide that that can wait a little longer.
 
Dooley said:
Probably. And full scale rebuild is such a tough sell in that market. San Fran loves their Giants - they draw very well.

Of course, things could go the other way and they ink Harper and/or Machado and go all in again. I'm very interested to see what vision new management has for that franchise. At some point, they'll have to restock the farm but they might decide that that can wait a little longer.
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Tough not to draw well in SF, they have the best baseball park in MLB in my opinion and I have been to a few parks (Fenway, New & old Yankee, Shea, Rogers Center, PNC Park, Citizens Bank, Turner Field, Tropicana, Comerica, Guarantee Rate Field [wtf?], Wrigley, Globe Life, Minute Maid Park, Coors Field, Chase Field, Angel Stadium, Oakland-Alameda Coliseum, and AT&T Park).

Back to the Yankees, about about a pair Seattle rumors. The first brings back the tarnished Cano to fill in for Didi's bat (Torres takes SS, Canada goes to 2B) that involves an exchange of bad contracts in Cano and Ellsbury. The second has the Yanks shipping Florial, Sheffield, and Whitlock for a legitimate #1 SP in Paxton.

MLB trade rumors: Mariners' Robinson Cano to Yankees? What a deal could look like

MLB trade rumors: Imagining a Yankees-Mariners James Paxton blockbuster deal
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Tough not to draw well in SF, they have the best baseball park in MLB in my opinion and I have been to a few parks (Fenway, New & old Yankee, Shea, Rogers Center, PNC Park, Citizens Bank, Turner Field, Tropicana, Comerica, Guarantee Rate Field [wtf?], Wrigley, Globe Life, Minute Maid Park, Coors Field, Chase Field, Angel Stadium, Oakland-Alameda Coliseum, and AT&T Park).

Back to the Yankees, about about a pair Seattle rumors. The first brings back the tarnished Cano to fill in for Didi's bat (Torres takes SS, Canada goes to 2B) that involves an exchange of bad contracts in Cano and Ellsbury. The secon has the Yanks shipping Florial, Sheffield, and Whitlock for a legitimate #1 SP in Paxton.

MLB trade rumors: Mariners' Robinson Cano to Yankees? What a deal could look like

MLB trade rumors: Imagining a Yankees-Mariners James Paxton blockbuster deal
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Yes that is the only path. Maybe the yanks throw in an arm since cano is actually still useful. But nothing big.

Seattle should jump at that and focus on the rebuild.

They need Seager to bounce back so they can deal him too.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Tough not to draw well in SF, they have the best baseball park in MLB in my opinion and I have been to a few parks (Fenway, New & old Yankee, Shea, Rogers Center, PNC Park, Citizens Bank, Turner Field, Tropicana, Comerica, Guarantee Rate Field [wtf?], Wrigley, Globe Life, Minute Maid Park, Coors Field, Chase Field, Angel Stadium, Oakland-Alameda Coliseum, and AT&T Park).
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Impressive list. Lots of west ballparks in here. Have you been to Petco Park (San Diego)? That's the only Pacific park I've been to. I liked it...was fortunate to watch a few innings from the top floor of the warehouse in LF before making my way down to my LF bleacher seats. It was a Sunday too so lots of Marines in the crowd. Really a cool atmosphere.

I need to get to PNC and AT&T. No excuse for PNC...that's a quick little drive and I actually have family fairly close by. AT&T is like a painting, it's so beautiful from TV. Would love to catch a game out there!
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Back to the Yankees, about about a pair Seattle rumors. The first brings back the tarnished Cano to fill in for Didi's bat (Torres takes SS, Canada goes to 2B) that involves an exchange of bad contracts in Cano and Ellsbury. The secon has the Yanks shipping Florial, Sheffield, and Whitlock for a legitimate #1 SP in Paxton.

MLB trade rumors: Mariners' Robinson Cano to Yankees? What a deal could look like

MLB trade rumors: Imagining a Yankees-Mariners James Paxton blockbuster deal
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Back to these rumors.

Rumor 1- I don't know if the Yanks should deal bad contract for bad contract. They're already committed to Stanton for a very long time and the back half of that deal might not look so sharp. At some point, they'll have to extend Judge, Severino, Torres, etc and let's not forget that regardless of whether or not they trade for Paxton, there are still a few LHP on the free agent market that would be an upgrade to the starting staff. Cano for five more years at that price tag might prevent the Yanks from doing other, more cost-effective, things now and down the road. Ownership seems "loosely committed" to being under the luxury tax limit and bringing in Cano just about guarantees that they will exceed it every year for the next 5 years. Ellsbury's contract is horrendous but there are (thankfully) only 2 more years of that left before they'll pay $5M to get out of it. To me, that's more valuable than Cano for 5 even if Cano can play and Ellsbury can't. I'd be far more comfortable handing someone like Ben Zobrist a 2-year deal until Ellsbury can be bought out.

As for rumor 2 - I love it. Would hate to part with Sheffield but would do it to acquire an arm like Paxton (or Kluber or Carrasco). The price tag is so cost effective that a trade for Paxton wouldn't prevent the Yanks from also signing Corbin (5 years) and Happ (maybe 2 but probably 3 years). Now of a sudden, the rotation would be: Severino, Paxton, Corbin, Happ, Tanaka. CC is the long man and hope for late season innings out of Montgomery (although not likely). That's a very good rotation to pair up with the already strong bullpen. They'd also have more chips to liquidate at the trade deadline should any 25 man roster holes emerge during the season, either from poor play or injuries. I would pull the trigger on that one instantly. Then deal off Gray for a MI or CI. Or maybe convert him to a long relief guy. Maybe he boosts his trade stock or turns into a weapon out of the pen.
 
Dooley said:
Impressive list. Lots of west ballparks in here. Have you been to Petco Park (San Diego)? That's the only Pacific park I've been to. I liked it...was fortunate to watch a few innings from the top floor of the warehouse in LF before making my way down to my LF bleacher seats. It was a Sunday too so lots of Marines in the crowd. Really a cool atmosphere.

I need to get to PNC and AT&T. No excuse for PNC...that's a quick little drive and I actually have family fairly close by. AT&T is like a painting, it's so beautiful from TV. Would love to catch a game out there!
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I got great seats at petco from a friend.

It’s an amazing park.

I haven’t been to that many though.

Fenway
Old yankee stadium
Metrodome
Camden yards
Nationals park
Petco
 
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