Notre Dame AD Mum On Question Of Future ACC Support For UConn

[HuskyFan16]

Thinking Zubas ever went out of style is stupidest.

 

[Waquoit]

One observation, Calhoun discussed his first Big East coach's meeting on WFAN . He was in awe of the legends in the room and treated them with respect and understood the traditions. He did not lecture them. Of course then he proceeded in a few years to beat their butts.

Pitino went in with a chip on his shoulder and had more BE success sooner. What's your point?

 

[upstater]

Mello Yello went out with Cole Trickle and Zubaz pants. You are simply not up to date.

Zubaz are out? Cincy was wearing them at the BET yesterday.

 

[ZooCougar]

Zubaz are out? Cincy was wearing them at the BET yesterday.

Seriously?

 

[noeynox]

An absolute fact.

so what exactly was this lecture about? what did she say that was so offensive?

 

[upstater]

Seriously?

 

[ZooCougar]

But those are the shorts. I am talking about the ridiculous pajama pants that grown men used to wear in public.

 

[RMoore1999]

You can buy into Chief's nonsense if you'd like.

Ask him to tell you about the heart to heart he had with Jerome Dyson last summer.

That's my fav.

Hell no.

He seems to me to be full of . Like most all message board posters claiming to be in the know who are unwilling/unable to provide credible evidence that they really are "sourced".

 

[Rico444]

Yikes. Those shorts are so ugly, it almost makes me want to root for PC.

Almost.

 

[ZooCougar]

If these are in style then I don't want to be in style.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Please. They don't drink Mountain Dew in North Carolina. Go back to a Kansas City Wiz game. It's Mello Yello.

Mr Pibb needs to be on the list too.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said Tuesday he “would not comment on hypotheticals” when asked if the university would someday support UConn’s candidacy to join the ACC.
“Twenty-eight years as an attorney has taught me never to [answer hypothetical question]. So I will pass on that hypothetical,” Swarbrick said.

Swarbrick also said he hasn’t heard whether the ACC plans to expand beyond the 15 teams it will have next season. It will remain a 15-team league after next season when Louisville replaces Maryland, who will join the Big Ten.

http://courantblogs.com/uconn-women/notre-dame-ad-mum-on-question-of-future-acc-support-for-uconn/

ND AD also mum on:
- his coach killing an undergrad;
- alleged rape by a football player that led to the girls suicide;
- whatever T'eo was up to.

 

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[CL82]

What is stupider: A debate about the superior citrus soda or UConn to the SEC. That's a tough call.

Actually it isn't all that tough a call....so mello yello or mountain dew, wait, you're a fresca man aren't you?

 

[UConn990411]

so what exactly was this lecture about? what did she say that was so offensive?

If you're expecting an answer, you won't get one.

Chief has no sources.

 

[Chief00]

- I did have a conversation with Jerome last summer as reported. I never disliked Jerome; I was just disappointed he did not achieve what he wanted to because he lost focus at times. Late nights before noon games are not a good combo.
- I never said my wife was at the meeting. We had a general social conversation with another couple at dinner who knew someone very well who was in the room. They really did not get into specifics other than she lectured ND and GT and made threats about leaving if she did not get her way on things. Next time I see them when I am in the Mid West I will try to get more details - but the details matter little -its the bad perception she left with the other Presidents that's all that matters. My wife just made a comment that they must have been insecure old white men uncomfortable with a powerful women - that was just a general comment.

 

[UConn Dan]

- We had a general social conversation with another couple at dinner who knew someone very well who was in the room. They really did not get into specifics other than she lectured ND and GT and made threats about leaving if she did not get her way on things.

Leaving what? The meeting or the conference?

 

[RMoore1999]

Leaving what? The meeting or the conference?

To leave the conference of course. She threatened to finally accept that long standing SEC invite...

 

[UConn Dan]

To leave the conference of course. She threatened to finally accept that long standing SEC invite...

Of course.

I love you avatar btw. My wife is from Louisiana. I'm hoping she introduces me to her upon getting our SEC invite.

 

[Fairfield 1st]

ND AD also mum on:
- his coach killing an undergrad;
- alleged rape by a football player that led to the girls suicide;
- whatever T'eo was up to.

I absolutely love this post.

 

[Rumrunner]

Ah, the double hearsay source. Those are so hard to come by, being the holy grail of school girl gossip. Hate to say it Chief, but you do you realize how foolish that sounds, don't you?

I never said my wife was at the meeting. We had a general social conversation with another couple at dinner who knew someone very well who was in the room. They really did not get into specifics other than she lectured ND and GT and made threats about leaving if she did not get her way on things. Next time I see them when I am in the Mid West I will try to get more details - but the details matter little -its the bad perception she left with the other Presidents that's all that matters. My wife just made a comment that they must have been insecure old white men uncomfortable with a powerful women - that was just a general comment.

 

[Chief00]

Ah, the double hearsay source. Those are so hard to come by, being the holy grail of school girl gossip. Hate to say it Chief, but you do you realize how foolish that sounds, don't you?

I did get a chance to talk to my source by phone yesterday on something else and I did mention the recent ND AD comments in the local papers and that was an entry to bringing up the Herbst story again. He did provide more details:
- It is not gender - the female South Florida Prez is well liked by her peers
- The thing that was really delussional to those in the room was Herbst lecturing ND about big time college football
- To some it seemed like she was talking with the comfort level that she thought she had a ticket to the ACC and basically they seemed like burning bridge parting shots
- She lectured them about their not taking the TV deal - granted she was right about that - but folks don't want to hear they were wrong - and their perspectives in retrospect is based on where they ended up - some don't think that was a bad move compared to where they are now.
- The Prez of GT and ND were priest who are used to someone talking more differential to them and it frankly took them by surprise how she talked to them and made others uncomfortable due to the situation. Regardless of how you feel about that - we have someone in charge that doesn't take the temperature in the room before she acts - so far that is not working very effectively for her.
- OK so there you have it - I could care less if you want to continue to live in denial or not - that's your choice.
- We have already missed some opportunities in part due to this act and you only get so many chances in life.

 

[uc1974]

If you're in a secular position the fact that you are a priest doesn't entitle you to any particular deference although good manners should always be in style. ND is a user and calling them out on it is simply telling the truth, nothing more. Who cares what GT thinks, anyway? Their athletic program consists of one BB team and an unsmiling coach, that's it. On this board, assume anything more than good second hand info. is very suspect and expect to get called on it. A personal "delusion" from me--the expression is "I couldn't care less" not "I could care less."

 

[Vuce]

So if the ACC took Louisville instead of Uconn because our president didn't talk nice enough to people ina meeting then that league is even dumber than I originally thought. Just preposterous.

 

[upstater]

I did get a chance to talk to my source by phone yesterday on something else and I did mention the recent ND AD comments in the local papers and that was an entry to bringing up the Herbst story again. He did provide more details:
- It is not gender - the female South Florida Prez is well liked by her peers
- The thing that was really delussional to those in the room was Herbst lecturing ND about big time college football
- To some it seemed like she was talking with the comfort level that she thought she had a ticket to the ACC and basically they seemed like burning bridge parting shots
- She lectured them about their not taking the TV deal - granted she was right about that - but folks don't want to hear they were wrong - and their perspectives in retrospect is based on where they ended up - some don't think that was a bad move compared to where they are now.
- The Prez of GT and ND were priest who are used to someone talking more differential to them and it frankly took them by surprise how she talked to them and made others uncomfortable due to the situation. Regardless of how you feel about that - we have someone in charge that doesn't take the temperature in the room before she acts - so far that is not working very effectively for her.
- OK so there you have it - I could care less if you want to continue to live in denial or not - that's your choice.
- We have already missed some opportunities in part due to this act and you only get so many chances in life.

Your friend may be talking out his butt. Ever consider that? I mean, basic facts here are wrong. For instance, DeGioia is not a priest. He comes out of faculty ranks.

 

[upstater]

If you're in a secular position the fact that you are a priest doesn't entitle you to any particular deference although good manners should always be in style. ND is a user and calling them out on it is simply telling the truth, nothing more. Who cares what GT thinks, anyway? Their athletic program consists of one BB team and an unsmiling coach, that's it. On this board, assume anything more than good second hand info. is very suspect and expect to get called on it. A personal "delusion" from me--the expression is "I couldn't care less" not "I could care less."

GT's prez isn't even a priest.

 

[GopherHawk]

At the AD/Prez level of these schools you will have people that have worked at multiple Universities/Colleges. These people know each other. That is the problem. They don't know how is friend or foe. Unless the person is your grade school buddy or family you should be careful of what you say and who you say it in front of.

 

[upstater]

At the AD/Prez level of these schools you will have people that have worked at multiple Universities/Colleges. These people know each other. That is the problem. They don't know how is friend or foe. Unless the person is your grade school buddy or family you should be careful of what you say and who you say it in front of.

This may be true BUT--let's state for the record some facts that we know of. One, the Prez of Gtown is actually a G'town homer (student/faculty member/Prez.) I agree with you that this is unusual, but there it is.

Second, whatever Herbst said (or didn't say!) pales in comparison to the types of things that Cuse and Pitt said about Father Leahy. Some of which were reported on this very board by higher-ups at those schools who spoke to him directly at a public function. Where are Pitt and Syracuse today? Heck, Nebraska's Prez. had it out with Michigan and Wisky's Prez. before they entered the B1G. Granted, Wisky's Prez was leaving for Amherst Coll. before voting after the tiff, but let's get rel here. Personalities are not the driving force, because if they were, the insults directed from Cuse to BC would make a difference. The wars between Carolina and FSU would make a difference. The stuff about G'Town's Prez and his Catholic cohort not seeing eye to eye would make a difference.

 

[ruskin]

If Herbst broke bad or talked down to her peers that actually raises my opinion of her. That shows me the fight that is needed - the same kind of fight Jim Calhoun had when he was breaking up the John Thompson-Rollie Massimino-Lou Carnesecca (and Boeheim) grip in the Big East.

Again, UConn is not trying to get into Augusta National. It's pretty well proven that playing nice gets you nowhere. Sue just needs to be a better general in organizing her non-academic resources in and outside of CT.

 

[pj]

If Herbst broke bad or talked down to her peers that actually raises my opinion of her. That shows me the fight that is needed - the same kind of fight Jim Calhoun had when he was breaking up the John Thompson-Rollie Massimino-Lou Carnesecca (and Boeheim) grip in the Big East.

Again, UConn is not trying to get into Augusta National. It's pretty well proven that playing nice gets you nowhere. Sue just needs to be a better general in organizing her non-academic resources in and outside of CT.

Playing a**hole gets you nowhere. Playing nice may not push things forward but at least it doesn't push things backward. Playing competent would be helpful.

In business, you never assume a deal is done until it's closed. She had no reason to be arrogant and should have played poker, keeping cards close to the vest until she knew where she stood.

If things happened as Chief said, let's hope she learned. If she doesn't repeat the mistake then memories will fade,