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Your (HFD) entire post is irrelevent to the point I made. As bad as you try to make them, they are a better team than us now. If we played them this year they would have an easy win. They will be an even better team next year when they get a real coach in there. We squandered our opportunity to pass them. What will we be next year?

I think you're wrong. I think if we play them this year, we win. I think it would look much like the MD game looked, and that we would win.
 
I know just what you are saying.
Temple and Buffalo are becoming our peer group. This is what conference realignment ultimately means, for all of those excited by our new conference brethren.
 
Choose whatever reason you want. They wouldn't trade places with us. Sorry, but that's the reality of the situation.

Because of the money. That was my point to Waquoit. If not for the conference situation, they would not be feeling too hot about their situation in the world. If you think we're hard on our team, you should see what THEIR fans are saying... (maybe they'll have even less than 200 people at next year's spring game)
 
I admire your unconditional optimism. But come on Dan.

I don't see why this is so crazy. Even in our most successful year, we got blown out by Temple. People have unreasonable expectations about this program, imo.
 
I saw more of the BCU game yesterday than I care to admit. BCU would kick our ass all the way into next week.
Absolutely. BC would win by two touchdowns, minimum.
 
BC is beyond terrible on the field. Only losing by 2 touchdowns at home is pretty good day for them.

They have a few advantages over UConn:

1. They aren't fighting for their program's continued existance in the 'big time'
2. They are much closer to relieving their coach of his duties and that much closer to having the opportunity to fix the results on the field.

It doesn't much matter who would win a game between UConn and BC.
 
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But if the wheels completely fall off and we are 3-9, would we not be in just about the same position as BC regarding HC?
 
Because of the money. That was my point to Waquoit. If not for the conference situation, they would not be feeling too hot about their situation in the world. If you think we're hard on our team, you should see what THEIR fans are saying... (maybe they'll have even less than 200 people at next year's spring game)

They should be upset. What has happened there is disgraceful. It's not like Jags or TOB were Nick Saban, but they look like Lombardi and Parcells compared to what they have now.
 
Going into week 5 for them, they have not yet beat a 1-A team (they are 1-3). We will be able to make a direct comparison of their team when they play against Maryland, in order to better judge how we would stack up against them. But I'm looking at the remainder of their schedule, and I'm having a hard time seeing how they are going to get above 3 wins this year. Their fanbase has absolutely dialed it in, based on the attendance numbers that I have heard through the BY. Here is their schedule this year, and you tell me who they are beating:

@Army
@Florida State
@Georgia Tech
Maryland
@Wake Forest
Notre Dame
Virginia Tech
NCState

I have them maybe....MAYBE getting to four wins this year, but that would include them picking up one of the two games against Ga Tech or Maryland, and I don't think they'll get either...

I can answer this one for you. They beat Army, GT, Wake, and NC State. Maryland is improving by leaps and bounds, and I think RE whips them. Stephon Diggs is like another Deon Sanders, and Perry Hills is coming along. And RE knows how to make the most of what he's got. I think BC gets to 5 wins.
 
I don't see why this is so crazy. Even in our most successful year, we got blown out by Temple. People have unreasonable expectations about this program, imo.

I typed out most of the reasons for my luke-warm optimism going forward, none of which people have addressed. I assume it's because many if not all of them were true.

And I agree 100% with you about the fans' warped perceptions of who we think we are. I think that many believe that we are West Virginia. We aren't. When we get a 4-star recruit, we jump up for joy like we just won the lotto, whereas WVU says, "Yeah, that's about right." And yet I would argue that we have done a great deal with less. Both Edsall and PP have done more with less. And recent victories in the recruiting front, although small, tell me that we are starting to head in the right direction. All of the sudden, the Graham Stewart's and Shakim Phillips' and even Bryce McNeal's of the world want to play here! And that's a good thing. Let's keep on keepin' on...
 
Because of the money. That was my point to Waquoit. If not for the conference situation, they would not be feeling too hot about their situation in the world. If you think we're hard on our team, you should see what THEIR fans are saying... (maybe they'll have even less than 200 people at next year's spring game)
Listen, I enjoy your youthful enthusiasm. Remember we all want Uconn to do well. We are all on the same team. But let me point out that the conference situation is a huge factor, not one that you can just dismiss. And yes, some teams win and some lose, it's actually 50/50. But we have bad coaching, "has been" coaching, stubborn, non-adaptive coaching, from a prior century. This is going nowhere fast. Other programs have problems too. None of the programs you mentioned would change places with us.
 
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I can answer this one for you. They beat Army, GT, Wake, and NC State. Maryland is improving by leaps and bounds, and I think RE whips them. Stephon Diggs is like another Deon Sanders, and Perry Hills is coming along. And RE knows how to make the most of what he's got. I think BC gets to 5 wins.

I think they also lose the NCState game. And that's also assuming that they beat GT. I have them on 4 wins tops, and possibly 3...
 
Listen, I enjoy your youthful enthusiasm. Remember we all want Uconn to do well. We are all on the same team. But let me point out that the conference situation is a huge factor, not one that you can just dismiss. And yes, some teams win and some lose, it's actually 50/50. But we have bad coaching, "has been" coaching, stubborn, non-adaptive coaching, from a prior century. This is going nowhere fast. Other programs have problems too. None of the programs you mentioned would change places with us.

I enjoy your youthful pessimism. ;) The conference situation can be dismissed, since it is something that nobody at UConn can control. And as for whether BC can beat UConn, even Whaler (who would never be confused with an optimist) is agreeing that BC football would get beat down. If both Whaler and I agree on something, it's pretty much true... :eek:
 
But if the wheels completely fall off and we are 3-9, would we not be in just about the same position as BC regarding HC?

Yes, we would be. If we lose the remainder of the season, that is a gigantic problem for us....especially when seeing what happens to this fanbase at 3-2...
 
I enjoy your youthful pessimism. ;) The conference situation can be dismissed, since it is something that nobody at UConn can control. And as for whether BC can beat UConn, even Whaler (who would never be confused with an optimist) is agreeing that BC football would get beat down. If both Whaler and I agree on something, it's pretty much true... :eek:

BC would get beat down by UConn? I'd guess whoever was at home would win. BC is terrible though - I'd guess they get 4 wins, enough terrible teams on the schedule to get a couple. I can't imagine they will beat anyone with a pulse.

I'm plenty optimistic when there is something to be optimistic about. It's not my fault the program offers little hope.
 
BC would get beat down by UConn? I'd guess whoever was at home would win. BC is terrible though - I'd guess they get 4 wins, enough terrible teams on the schedule to get a couple. I can't imagine they will beat anyone with a pulse.

I'm plenty optimistic when there is something to be optimistic about. It's not my fault the program offers little hope.

Ahh....good ole Whaler! Did you not say, "losing by two touchdowns at home is a pretty good day" for BC??? Now it matters whether or not they play at home??
 
Yeah, because UConn only had one successful season, right? We didn't go to any other bowls during that time, right? And UConn wasn't "lucky enough" to get into that bowl. We earned our way in by beating teams in our conference. I'm confident that if the 2010 team plays the ACC champion, we win. We ran into a buzzsaw, and were in it until the end of the third quarter, even after two separate balls hit off our wide receivers and went "pick-6"...
UConn is 58-46 with 5 bowls since '04. And yes, we weren't lucky. I was trying to say more along the lines of an 8-4 team regardless if its UConn does not belong in a BCS bowl. I also believe we would beat the ACC. And I apologize if I sound like a BC fan, but the fact is I just find it silly that they have a 4-8 season while we go 5-7 and all of a sudden UConn is superior, while completely ignoring the recent history of the past decade.
 
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Ahh....good ole Whaler! Did you not say, "losing by two touchdowns at home is a victory" for BC??? Now it matters whether or not they play at home??

I said that losing by two touchdowns at home is a pretty good day for BC - referring to yesterday's two TD loss at home to Clemson.

And um yes, a large factor in who wins college football games is who is at home.
 
I said that losing by two touchdowns at home is a pretty good day for BC - referring to yesterday's two TD loss at home to Clemson.

Yeah, I corrected my quoting of you as you were typing...
 
UConn is 58-46 with 5 bowls since '04. And yes, we weren't lucky. I was trying to say more along the lines of an 8-4 team regardless if its UConn does not belong in a BCS bowl. I also believe we would beat the ACC. And I apologize if I sound like a BC fan, but the fact is I just find it silly that they have a 4-8 season while we go 5-7 and all of a sudden UConn is superior, while completely ignoring the recent history of the past decade.

You don't sound like a BC fan. If you sounded like a BC fan, you would be a pompous, arrogant a who would eventually try to steer the conversation back to hockey.

It has to be said, though, that BC suffers from a problem that we don't (or at least shouldn't) have. That problem is that they are in Boston. There are perhaps 4 or 5 bigger sporting draws in the city of Boston than BC, whereas UConn is the state's team. If they have multiple crap years, they should be very concerned. I feel like the UConn fanbase is stronger and won't walk away from the team the way that the fair-weather BC fan will. But perhaps I'm mistaken...
 
I said that losing by two touchdowns at home is a pretty good day for BC - referring to yesterday's two TD loss at home to Clemson.

And um yes, a large factor in who wins college football games is who is at home.

Hey Whaler, I got what you were referring to. I wouldn't be too upset if we could stay two touchdowns behind Clemson. (We wouldn't). And Clemson had all America wide receiver Sammy Watkins out yesterday with an injury. If we could only manage 7 pts against NC State, we wouldn't get much more against Clemson. Uconn Clemson? 45-10.
 
Of all the negatives with Coach P, the thing that pisses me off the most is his stupid sour puss look that he does after the team does something bad.


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UConn 24 - BC 14

When did that game happen?

I swear, the moment the UCONN plays BC this board is going to be unbearable. If we beat them, people will start throwing out all kinds of arrogant remarks about how good we are and how bad they are. If we lose? HA! Meltdown might be the understatement of the year.


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When did that game happen?

I swear, the moment the UCONN plays BC this board is going to be unbearable. If we beat them, people will start throwing out all kinds of arrogant remarks about how good we are and how bad they are. If we lose? HA! Meltdown might be the understatement of the year.


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When did this game happen?? It was a prediction of what the score would be if they played this year. Did you miss the three or four posts prior to that?
 
When did this game happen?? It was a prediction of what the score would be if they played this year. Did you miss the three or four posts prior to that?

I stopped reading after a few posts in this thread. My mistake.


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Until fans demand excellence, they will put a mediocre product on the field if they can get away with it. Football means big dollars on the investment side, including paying up for coaching talent. Connecticut is trying to do this on the cheap, and I frankly think they are vet comfortable with product as long as us dolts keep shelling out money for season tickets and $8 for a beer. UConn football is a reflection of the economic development plan in Connecticut for the last 20 years. No vision, juice the taxpayer and pretend everything is fine.
 
Until fans demand excellence, they will put a mediocre product on the field if they can get away with it.

I demand excellence!!! (has it happened yet??...) :confused:
 
Until fans demand excellence, they will put a mediocre product on the field if they can get away with it. Football means big dollars on the investment side, including paying up for coaching talent. Connecticut is trying to do this on the cheap, and I frankly think they are vet comfortable with product as long as us dolts keep shelling out money for season tickets and $8 for a beer. UConn football is a reflection of the economic development plan in Connecticut for the last 20 years. No vision, juice the taxpayer and pretend everything is fine.
Though I don't completely agree, I have to say the point about paying for talent is what TDH and others don't get. Getting a big name college coach is expensive. Plus, we aren't exactly a destination program for football. I just don't think UConn is willing to pay top dollar for a football coach who will put UConn football in the top ten, we want an overseer who takes the team bowling on a regular basis, graduates the players, and keeps the Nevin Shapiro types away from the kids so the NCAA doesn't come sniffing around. If it isn't obvious already, winning the Orange Bowl is not a priority here. We can argue about whether it should be, but it would be a pointless exercise.
 
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