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J187Money said:
That's not the problem. No G5 coach should have a $5M buyout. Even if they had the money that's a poor use of it.
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Well half the reason I don't hate Herbst is because you support her - so we are kind of at dead end here.
 
whaler11 said:
Well half the reason I don't hate Herbst is because you support her - so we are kind of at dead end here.
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I mean if Burton came to me with a check I would do it. But not if it hurt future donations.

I still don't know why this was done or who pushed for it, but the contract extension is a disaster. I would imagine that it was WM and Herbst agreed. I can't believe it was her idea.
 
J187Money said:
I still don't know why this was done or who pushed for it, but the contract extension is a disaster. I would imagine that it was WM and Herbst agreed. I can't believe it was her idea.
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THAT is the Pulitzer story if investigated and written.
 
J187Money said:
I mean if Burton came to me with a check I would do it. But not if it hurt future donations.

I still don't know why this was done or who pushed for it, but the contract extension is a disaster. I would imagine that it was WM and Herbst agreed. I can't believe it was her idea.
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I guess we had a guy who knew there was an opening where he wanted to be - and being able to claim he locked up his big hire who had momentum (if you were a thousand miles away it might have seemed that way) it played in his interviews. Hopefully Ohio State beats them until they shoot Warde into the sun.
 
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huskymedic said:
I'm not even sure its a Jacob's gig - needs to be someone who doesn't GAF,
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It will be easy to write 12 months from now when everyone is fired. The scapegoat will be clear.
 
sportsart said:
My reason for posting is I don't see any other reasonable solution.

We aren't getting invite soon, if ever. So what is everyone'solution?

I'll say it again. With our facilities, education and stadium. we should able to out recruit everyone.

Install a high scoring, spread offense and people will come to see a fun, winning team.
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Not fans like me. I had little interest in UConn Football until they went FBS. I used to be a fan, of all teams, BC as they were the only Div 1 team in NE.
 
Sports Art - your frustration is dead on. However, the notion of dropping down is as smart as retaining Diaco.

The holy grail is P5confererence money. Argument sake you are correct and we never get to a P5 or P4. We are in the AAC- the money will never reach P5 holy grail - but Aresco will make a better contract considering he did the last one under severe duress. Argument sake we get $5 M a year for TV. It's not what we make now, but it is better than the alternative. You probably still have a shot a New Years bowl and can still schedule P5 teams.

Go down to FCS, your best TV will be $500,000 a year - we will operate at a loss and have no shot to protect basketball or anything else. No name team will come to the Rent. Not many fans will show either.
 
In the nicest way possible, this thread is pathetic. Yeah lets just give up, that sounds great.
 
Huskyforlife said:
In the nicest way possible, this thread is pathetic. Yeah lets just give up, that sounds great.
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Funny how people read things differently. It's not about giving up, it was a comparison about being a FCS FB champ for 5 years in a row or being stuck in this mess. Being that I'm sure you didn't know ND St's history, I'll give you a pass.

Sorry the men lost.
 
sportsart said:
Funny how people read things differently. It's not about giving up, it was a comparison about being a FCS FB champ for 5 years in a row or being stuck in this mess. Being that I'm sure you didn't know ND St's history, I'll give you a pass.

Sorry the men lost.
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Don't be, they're playing with 7 guys.

But cmon man... you really wanna be North Dakota St? We made a Fiesta bowl at one point. Just because it's been a dark period for awhile, doesn't mean there isn't light at the end of the tunnel. If in some magical case we fire Diaco on Jan 1st, you'd still want to go down a level, knowing the new staff can't be any worse than this?
 
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Huskyforlife said:
Don't be, they're playing with 7 guys.

But cmon man... you really wanna be North Dakota St? We made a Fiesta bowl at one point. Just because it's been a dark period for awhile, doesn't mean there isn't light at the end of the tunnel. If in some magical case we fire Diaco on Jan 1st, you'd still want to go down a level, knowing the new staff can't be any worse than this?
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You obviously did not read my other posts where I said I'd rather not drop down if I had a choice.

Hardcorehusky was the only one that posted what I asked for and that was "How can we survive this current cluster f'k?"
 
sportsart said:
You obviously did not read my other posts where I said I'd rather not drop down if I had a choice.

Hardcorehusky was the only one that posted what I asked for and that was "How can we survive this current cluster f'k?"
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I read the OP then commented, my mistake.
 
sportsart said:
Why do I have to keep saying UConn pre FBS is a completely different animal as it is today so please stop comparing the 2.

Everyone else, my first choice is not to do this. Period, end of story. But I still haven't seen an reasonable solutions to the current problem.

For 5 years I've read we need a P5 invite or we are dead. No P5 in our future and no competing for the AAC title anytime soon.

We can live in fantasy land or we can talk about a reasonable end game. That's all I want from here on out.

I'd rather not watch this dumpster fire burn for 5 more years. I remember reading Susan was working on a back up plan if no invite came from the Big 12. Any thoughts on if there is such a thing?
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There's no discernible evidence that Suzy is working on a primary plan, let alone a "back up" plan to get us anywhere other than where we currently are. At this point, the plan should be to jettison our clown coach ASAP for the least possible amount of money.
 
sportsart said:
Funny how people read things differently. It's not about giving up, it was a comparison about being a FCS FB champ for 5 years in a row or being stuck in this mess. Being that I'm sure you didn't know ND St's history, I'll give you a pass.

Sorry the men lost.
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Are you suggesting that the comparison is based on UCONN winning five FCS championships in a row, like that's just automatically going to happen at some point if we give up playing FBS and drop down to FCS? If so, that's nuts because we'll all be long dead before it happens, if ever. Besides, even if and when it did happen, most FCS teams that have that kind of run of success (i.e. Appalachian State) usually decide to upgrade to FBS because the lower division no longer offers them any challenge. So, even if UCONN dominated FCS football for years, we'd probably just end up right back in the FBS.

In reality, there won't be any FBS/FCS divide in another 10 years or so, because the P5 conferences will split and form their own association. That way they'll no longer have to share the BB money with over 200 DI schools they can leave behind. If UCONN isn't in a P5 by then, we're gonna get left behind along with the Villanovas and Georgetowns of college sports.
 
J187Money said:
That's not the problem. No G5 coach should have a $5M buyout. Even if they had the money that's a poor use of it.
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If I had a loose 6 mil, I might spend 5 there...
 
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RioDog said:
1. Appalachian St. 6 149,366 24,894
2. Montana 7 170,660 24,380
3. James Madison 7 147,076 21,011
4. Southern U. 5 100,536 20,107
5. Yale 6 99,045 19,809
6. Montana St. 6 118,222 19,704
7. North Dak St. 9 167,600 18,622
TEAM # GAMES TOTAL AVERAGE

Attendance 2013 stats. Surprising Yale does so well with no post season interest. I doubt UConn would be top 25 for attendance. I guess you have to ask yourself if 18-20,0000 is "people showing up" and if you would be excited by FCS competition. The answer to both of those questions for me is no. FBS P-conference or fly fishing.


EDIT: 30,000 +?! Thats delusional. App State can't break 25k but we would? Not likely.
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Pick a year Yale doesn't host Harvard, and you'll answer your question as to how. That game skews their average in a major way.

eg 2015: 2015 Yale Bulldogs football team - Wikipedia

15,926
7,259
6,878
52,126 :)
 
If we were in a P5 and losing the answer would be let us find a coach that can get us wins. Our situation is that we are outside and trying to get in any one of the P5. And we are losing miserably. And the conf which was so scorned with the utmost of contempt has turned out to be too competitive for us. We have a false sense of who and what we can be. The solution- we have fired more coaches than some people change underpants. Diaco may go tomorrow, but so will the next guy after him. I read here that some of the hottest coaches out there were once pacing our sidelines. Perhaps our problems lie elsewhere. See all the NE schools (including RU, etc)-- they are all now 'once upon a time places.' How much more time? If Diaco goes after next year, how long does the incoming coach have to bring 'happy days' to Storrs? How many cons. seasons of 6-4 or better- because 5-5 for 2 seasons would not do- or what? In our situation would we get someone who would not want a 3-5 year deal?
 
The only four sports I care about:

1) I was a UConn BB fan for 22 years and they rewarded me with a national championship.
2) I was a New England Patriot fan for 26 years and they rewarded me with a Super Bowl championship.
3) I was a Chicago Cub fan for 50 years and they rewarded me with a World Series championship.
4) I've been a UConn FB fan for 39 years and they will reward me at some point.

No retreat. Full steam ahead.

I believe.
 
Waquoit said:
I've already been rewarded. Without UConn FB, I never would have met sportsart!
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You know I've sat behind you for years watching you Coachcap and sometimes Pudge and I have to say, they put you to shame on 3rd down. :)
 
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UConnNick said:
There's no discernible evidence that Suzy is working on a primary plan, let alone a "back up" plan to get us anywhere other than where we currently are. At this point, the plan should be to jettison our clown coach ASAP for the least possible amount of money.
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Uconn has a medical school correct? I imagine that they have cadavers there correct? Diaco drives a car yes? I imagine that car has a trunk yes? I'm just asking questions here, not making suggestions, but how bad do you all want to get rid of this clown?;)
 
sportsart said:
You know I've sat behind you for years watching you Coachcap and sometimes Pudge and I have to say, they put you to shame on 3rd down. :)
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That's what Diaco has done to me. I've always stood and yelled. The people behind me never stand and my attitude has always been 'em. But this year, I pretty much just yelled.
 
I'd only support going to FCS if UConn was admitted to the Ivy League. That would be worth it to the school. Aside from that, stay the course and do better at this level.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I'd only support going to FCS if UConn was admitted to the Ivy League. That would be worth it to the school. Aside from that, stay the course and do better at this level.
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If we revert to FCS, I'll revert to my FCS fandom level. Maybe a game or two, every couple of years.
 
Waquoit said:
If we revert to FCS, I'll revert to my FCS fandom level. Maybe a game or two, every couple of years.
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Ironically, if it was Ivy league, I'd probably go to several road games @ Harvard and Brown for sure. I certainly went to the Yale - UConn game back in the day. But aside from Ivy...and the prestige that comes with it, moving to FCS make no sense at all.
 
This is purely and simply about hiring the right coach. With all the movement in the league there are opportunities to move up or down (well not much downward space for us right now) Moving back to fcs isn't a real option. Doing it and drawing 30000 is a fantasy. If we do that we can bulldoze the Rent and build a 10,000 seat venue on campus and be done with it.

And Art, you forgot about moving hoops to the Big East.
 
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