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That’s not true in recruiting. There are varying degrees of recruitment and “want” for every player. My point in this is that Baylor wanted Andrews more than Hailey Van Lith. HVLs visit to Baylor was postponed to give Andrews time. Any Baylor people following this could confirm. Baylor wanted Andrews more than Hailey Van Lith.

I contend that Hailey Van Lith and Andrews are very similar players and that they don’t fit together as guards like the Bulldogs guards did. Baylor likes to play big too. I am sure that Hailey Van Lith would rather be at a school not super pumped about another 2020 5’8” PG. Did you watch Andrews commitment video?
Van Lith showed she can effectively play off the ball at U19. Dan Olson even moved her position from PG to G.

I personally don’t see a ton of similarities between Van Lith and Andrews.

I still don’t see why Mulkey would make Van Lith push her visit back when she is willing to take both? Any thoughts Baylor fans?
 
Van Lith showed she can effectively play off the ball at U19. Dan Olson even moved her position from PG to G.
I still don’t see why Mulkey would make Van Lith push her visit back when she is willing to take both? Any thoughts Baylor fans?

From what I gathered, she wanted Andrews and Hailey Van Lith to visit together. Kim is selling them on the “Big 3” with Gusters. Hailey Van Lith can play off the ball, she is not strictly a PG.
 
From what I gathered, she wanted Andrews and Hailey Van Lith to visit together. Kim is selling them on the “Big 3” with Gusters. Hailey Van Lith can play off the ball, she is not strictly a PG.
That was exactly how I saw it, not to "give Andrews time."
 
Baylor wants her. I don't know why you think they wouldn't? Yes we want Andrews and Hailey Van Lith. We need more Guards

Next Year
Sr: Richards SF, Ursin SG
JR: Bickel S/PF, Egbo C, Smith F, Oliver W
So: Oliver W
Fr: Andrews PG, Gusters C

We need more SG/PG's and could use another transfer for next season.
Plus you have to take into account the next round of 2-3 out-transfers.
 
Van Lith showed she can effectively play off the ball at U19. Dan Olson even moved her position from PG to G.

I personally don’t see a ton of similarities between Van Lith and Andrews.

I still don’t see why Mulkey would make Van Lith push her visit back when she is willing to take both? Any thoughts Baylor fans?

After watching some of the U19 games I would not agree. Did you get to watch any? Paige carried the offense. Hailey Van Lith was not a big factor in my opinion.

Both players shoot a lot. Both players like to slash and dish. Neither player is a sharpshooter. Both players heavier shorter guards. I’ve watched both a lot. They seem similar to me. Not sure why Olsen switched her position maybe Hailey Van Lith requested it?
 
That’s not true in recruiting. There are varying degrees of recruitment and “want” for every player. My point in this is that Baylor wanted Andrews more than Hailey Van Lith. HVLs visit to Baylor was postponed to give Andrews time. Any Baylor people following this could confirm. Baylor wanted Andrews more than Hailey Van Lith.

I contend that Hailey Van Lith and Andrews are very similar players and that they don’t fit together as guards like the Bulldogs guards did. Baylor likes to play big too. I am sure that Hailey Van Lith would rather be at a school not super pumped about another 2020 5’8” PG. Did you watch Andrews commitment video?
I love how you think you’re speaking for all of Baylor nation or Kim Mulkey! Of course Kim wants both Andrews and van lith
 
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After watching some of the U19 games I would not agree. Did you get to watch any? Paige carried the offense. Hailey Van Lith was not a big factor in my opinion.

Both players shoot a lot. Both players like to slash and dish. Neither player is a sharpshooter. Both players heavier shorter guards. I’ve watched both a lot. They seem similar to me. Not sure why Olsen switched her position maybe Hailey Van Lith requested it?
Hailey was third in PPG and second in APG. That qualifies as a “factor.” I don’t see how it wouldn’t. I never said Hailey carried the offense, I said she was a big part of it.
 
Texas kids very seldom leave Texas. Her teammate committed to Baylor. There was no chance.

Van Lith on the other hand is a dynamic scoring guard...that is Louisville’s identity (one scoring guard and everything else built around said guard.) Baylor is a post player, big girl, inside-out style team. I think Louisville is the best place for her. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s been persuaded to commit to Baylor this past weekend. That can happen when kids take OV’s together.
I don’t think van lith will go to Louisville though now that two players are red-shirting. She’ll have more competition if she goes there! If she goes to Baylor with Andrews, they’ll both play right away because we are losing lots of guards to graduation and transfers
 
I hope Hailey Van Lith does go to Baylor. I actually think Kim is a better fit for her. I don’t think anyone can deny Hailey Van Lith waited too long and missed some opportunities. Whether it was college coaches over promising or her over projecting how good she is, I don’t know. Maybe both. But I’ve watched her a lot. This summer when she faced off against EYBL competition and not the Adidas teams I thought she was fine, but not a top 20 player. Just my opinion. If she were thought of by a majority of college coaches as a top 5 or even top 10 player in the whole 2020 class I think they would be pursuing her harder and not taking others before her.
 
Caroline Ducharme visited Tennessee this weekend along with Isaline Alexander from the U16 team in Canada. Ducharme was watched by TN coaches quite a few times this fall period at open gym.
 
I think both Mulkey and Hailey Van Lith would be great fits together. I know I’m stating the obvious there. Backcourt would not have the height advantage but would be elite. Am I the only one who thinks Gusters status has dropped? Is she mobile for those who have seen her?
 
I hope Hailey Van Lith does go to Baylor. I actually think Kim is a better fit for her. I don’t think anyone can deny Hailey Van Lith waited too long and missed some opportunities. Whether it was college coaches over promising or her over projecting how good she is, I don’t know. Maybe both. But I’ve watched her a lot. This summer when she faced off against EYBL competition and not the Adidas teams I thought she was fine, but not a top 20 player. Just my opinion. If she were thought of by a majority of college coaches as a top 5 or even top 10 player in the whole 2020 class I think they would be pursuing her harder and not taking others before her.
I believe Scott Rueck at Oregon State recruited her "heavily" and I doubt he would over promise. Why she never fully warmed to OSU and dropped the school, we may never know. Some OSU supporters think she was not the best fit (style of play, personality?). At OSU, Slocum may leave early (well, not really early since I think she graduates next spring) so Hailey Van Lith as a freshman may have gotten significant time at point guard behind/along with senior Aleah Goodman. She could have played significant time at the 2 position too, what with Pivec graduating as well as Tudor who was not granted an extra year. Oh well, OSU is heavily recruiting several top 25 2021 guards now.
 
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I hope Hailey Van Lith does go to Baylor. I actually think Kim is a better fit for her. I don’t think anyone can deny Hailey Van Lith waited too long and missed some opportunities. Whether it was college coaches over promising or her over projecting how good she is, I don’t know. Maybe both. But I’ve watched her a lot. This summer when she faced off against EYBL competition and not the Adidas teams I thought she was fine, but not a top 20 player. Just my opinion. If she were thought of by a majority of college coaches as a top 5 or even top 10 player in the whole 2020 class I think they would be pursuing her harder and not taking others before her.
I think she’s a top 10 player, but I also think she does a little too much after watching her. I could see why you doubt she’s a top player though. I think she was ahead of Clark, Johnson, and Andrews in the original class rankings and she’s fallen behind all. She likes to dribble ....A LOT! I think she’s a player that needs to go where a coach would allow free reign.

Baylor does have room for both her and Andrews because they just don’t have shooters or pure lead guards. It also would be a plus to get both because the past two lead guards have been dismissed. So getting both would be great insurance.
 
I believe Scott Rueck at Oregon State recruited her "heavily" and I doubt he would over promise. Why she never fully warmed to OSU and dropped the school, we may never know. Some OSU supporters think she was not the best fit (style of play, personality?). At OSU, Slocum may leave early (well, not really early since I think she graduates next spring) so Hailey Van Lith as a freshman may have gotten significant time at point guard behind/along with senior Aleah Goodman. She could have played significant time at the 2 position too, what with Pivec graduating as well as Tudor who was not granted an extra year. Oh well, OSU is heavily recruiting several top 25 2021 guards now.
I'll let the Boneyard know if I see Hailey Van Lith at the OSU vs USA game tonight. Wouldn't shock me if she shows up.
 
I'll let the Boneyard know if I see Hailey Van Lith at the OSU vs USA game tonight. Wouldn't shock me if she shows up.
Heck, I'm an OSU fan...and I'm always up for BIG surprises. You're one of the few holdouts for the possibility of "Hailey Van Lith to OSU".
 
I believe Scott Rueck at Oregon State recruited her "heavily" and I doubt he would over promise. Why she never fully warmed to OSU and dropped the school, we may never know. Some OSU supporters think she was not the best fit (style of play, personality?). At OSU, Slocum may leave early (well, not really early since I think she graduates next spring) so Hailey Van Lith as a freshman may have gotten significant time at point guard behind/along with senior Aleah Goodman. She could have played significant time at the 2 position too, what with Pivec graduating as well as Tudor who was not granted an extra year. Oh well, OSU is heavily recruiting several top 25 2021 guards now.

OSU is still in big with VanLith. The ESPN article was just listing some schools, not all schools. UCLA still in big on VanLith. VanLith set up a visit with Oregon, but the Ducks cancelled it. She tried commit to Oregon, but Graves turned her down. She will stay out west and be a Beaver. Then she will spend four years beating up on the Ducks for their mistake. She is top 5 in her class. Prospects Nation has her number two and stated she could have been #1 player in her class. (It wasn't a slam dunk). She's a consensus top 10 player by every expert out there. So anyone who has her outside the top 10 has personal bias. She could possibly go to Baylor or Louisville, but the word is she wants to stay out west.

Slocum will not leave early. VanLith and Slocum together, plus the bigs will dominate the Pac12.
 
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OSU is still in big with VanLith. The ESPN article was just listing some schools, not all schools. UCLA still in big on VanLith. VanLith set up a visit with Oregon, but the Ducks cancelled it. She tried commit to Oregon, but Graves turned her down. She will stay out west and be a Beaver. Then she will spend four years beating up on the Ducks for their mistake. She is top 5 in her class. Prospects Nation has her number two and stated she could have been #1 player in her class. (It wasn't a slam dunk). She's a consensus top 10 player by every expert out there. So anyone who has her outside the top 10 has personal bias. She could possibly go to Baylor or Louisville, but the word is she wants to stay out west.

Slocum will not leave early. VanLith and Slocum together, plus the bigs will dominate the Pac12.

This is the first I've read of this. Where'd you hear/read that Oregon turned her away?
 
If she is so heavy Oregon St then why didn't she take an official?
There really is no need for an official. Hailey Van Lith has made numerous unofficial visits, knows OSU, and, has been in communication with the coaches for years. She is a PNW kid, small town, and her parents are very close with Hailey Van Lith. I cannot see her going to a top 10 school where her parents cannot get to her games. Lastly, she is very centered in her faith, as are most of the OSU Players.
 
There really is no need for an official. Hailey Van Lith has made numerous unofficial visits, knows OSU, and, has been in communication with the coaches for years. She is a PNW kid, small town, and her parents are very close with Hailey Van Lith. I cannot see her going to a top 10 school where her parents cannot get to her games. Lastly, she is very centered in her faith, as are most of the OSU Players.
As you are as well
 
Considering that Hailey Van Lith has played her recruitment very close to the vest, there's alot of declarative and definitive statements in this thread about the various aspects of her recruitment.
 
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OSU is still in big with VanLith. The ESPN article was just listing some schools, not all schools. UCLA still in big on VanLith. VanLith set up a visit with Oregon, but the Ducks cancelled it. She tried commit to Oregon, but Graves turned her down. She will stay out west and be a Beaver. Then she will spend four years beating up on the Ducks for their mistake. She is top 5 in her class. Prospects Nation has her number two and stated she could have been #1 player in her class. (It wasn't a slam dunk). She's a consensus top 10 player by every expert out there. So anyone who has her outside the top 10 has personal bias. She could possibly go to Baylor or Louisville, but the word is she wants to stay out west.

Slocum will not leave early. VanLith and Slocum together, plus the bigs will dominate the Pac12.
At a recent discussion with a women’s basketball fan group, Graves was talking about how important it was to recruit the right players, players who played for the team. He mentioned that he just rejected a commitment from one of top players in the country, without giving a name, due to a perceived lack of fit. At the time I assumed one of the 5 current 2020 commitments for the Ducks was being turned away. However, all five still seem to be on board. That comment from a few weeks ago may have just been referring to this interaction with Hailey Van Lith.
 
At a recent discussion with a women’s basketball fan group, Graves was talking about how important it was to recruit the right players, players who played for the team. He mentioned that he just rejected a commitment from one of top players in the country, without giving a name, due to a perceived lack of fit.

Really surprised Graves talks about things like that publicly. But then he's also into pushing his players and program on social media like Staley does.
 
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