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[gioff23]

Who knows where this plays out or when, but the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow them to host a conference championship even if their membership consists of an odd number. We can argue later about why the NCAA inserted the requirement for an even number. The real question is why is the ACC pushing this? They don't need another member, they are at 14 FT members now (ND does not count). Are they looking for a 15th in FB, and a 16th for all other sports? Are they concerned about the BIG making an offer to UConn, and cutting off the ACC's northern segment, with the crown jewels of DC and NYC firmly resting w/the BIG? There is smoke ....

 

[CTMike]

At least HFD has the dignity to say he just starts rumors.

He was at least basing it off what he heard from a source... It wasn't just pulled out of thin air. But, I understand your point.

 

[Hoophound]

Who knows where this plays out or when, but the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow them to host a conference championship even if their membership consists of an odd number. We can argue later about why the NCAA inserted the requirement for an even number. The real question is why is the ACC pushing this? They don't need another member, they are at 14 FT members now (ND does not count). Are they looking for a 15th in FB, and a 16th for all other sports? Are they concerned about the BIG making an offer to UConn, and cutting off the ACC's northern segment, with the crown jewels of DC and NYC firmly resting w/the BIG? There is smoke ....

Is it possible that they want to make sure that if ND joins, they don't need to add a 16th member? Probably.

 

[billybud]

OT...I see 88 on line on the Yard...

The Warchant premium recruiting chat this morning has 5200 on line.

On NSD...one would expect big numbers....Is that 88 accurate?

 

[whaler11]

He was at least basing it off what he heard from a source... It wasn't just pulled out of thin air. But, I understand your point.

Do they teach at J-School that voices in your head are sources? Of course it's completely pulled out of thin air. Everything from every twitter conference realignment guru has been a figment of their imagination.

 

[TRest]

OT...I see 88 on line on the Yard...

The Warchant premium recruiting chat this morning has 5200 on line.

On NSD...one would expect big numbers....Is that 88 accurate?

UConn doesn't have a fanbase that was raised on the false hype of rivals and scout recruiting rankings. We aren't all sitting around hoping some 5 star kid flips to us because that doesn't happen for more than maybe 10 schools in the country. Warchant is one of those, correct? Back when the Yard was on rivals, I remember the rivals.com site bombing on NSD constantly.

 

[OkaForPrez]

If you ask me this is collusion to protect the Big12's ability to stay at 10 and have a championship game further stabilizing the landscape.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Umm... you forgot what you wrote?

Husky25: The only bit of reality is the need for DVR proof programming, especially for the BTN. What it means is that hockey and women's basketball mean more to the B1G than to any other conference. UConn is to women's hoops what Notre Dame is to football, even beyond that really. They elevate every team in the league and turn a no-interest sport into one with followers. And we're the only school out there that brings hockey.

Except that I wrote that.

 

[hardcorehusky]

The programming the BTN already has doesn't generate advertising dollars outside of the college football Saturdays. So DVR proof or not they don't do much in the way of monetizing it past subscription fees.

Whaler - let me give you my take - the Big 10 doesn't care if the brand is damaged- they feel they can make it work. Case in point - Rutgers - they truly feel the power of the Big 10 can overcome 100 years of ineptitude. Or Maryland - they think all the new money and the Brand of the Big 10 will awake a sleeping giant. UCONN twisting in the wind for a few years is nothing compared to these disasters so the Big 10 will move at their own pace.

 

[specialisthusky]

UConn doesn't have a fanbase that was raised on the false hype of rivals and scout recruiting rankings. We aren't all sitting around hoping some 5 star kid flips to us because that doesn't happen for more than maybe 10 schools in the country. Warchant is one of those, correct? Back when the Yard was on rivals, I remember the rivals.com site bombing on NSD constantly.

LOL Rivals crashed again a few minutes ago.

 

[billybud]

UConn doesn't have a fanbase that was raised on the false hype of rivals and scout recruiting rankings. We aren't all sitting around hoping some 5 star kid flips to us because that doesn't happen for more than maybe 10 schools in the country. Warchant is one of those, correct? Back when the Yard was on rivals, I remember the rivals.com site bombing on NSD constantly.

Yep...I see that NSD may not mean that much up there.

Down south, it's an official holiday. People don't go in to work or those that can monitor from work do.

There are three sports ....football, football recruiting, and spring football (can you believe that Alabama has sold 90,000 tickets to the spring game?).

 

[Chin Diesel]

Yep...I see that NSD may not mean that much up there.

Down south, it's an official holiday. People don't go in to work or those that can monitor from work do.

There are three sports ....football, football recruiting, and spring football (can you believe that Alabama has sold 90,000 tickets to the spring game?).

Yep. Every local sports radio station has day long coverage, newspapers have their cameramen going to all the HS's and the evening news will have plenty of video feed from today.

 

[whaler11]

Quit it with the condescension ( what are you? 70? Who addresses someone as merely, "Guy"?)

You interject youself on a conversation of which you were not a part only to stir up some sort of controversy? If you have an disagreement, issue, or comment otherwise of what i said, quote that post, not one 15 posts up the line. I'm a father of an 18 month old. I don't remember what I did this morning let a lone yesterday, the day before, or when I was 26.

With all due respect (as a UConn fan), you need learn something about context. In the meantime go pick a fight with a former quarterback recruit's father.

My apologies your avatars are very similar and I attributed something HH said to you. My fault 100%.

Btw Mr Lagow and I are boys now so you can rest easy on that one.

 

[CL82]

You know I love HFD for keeping us in the conversation, even if that is only among message board types, but at the same time I sometimes read his stuff and start getting psyched...until I realize it is just Dan.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Including guests, I saw there were around 1,500 people on the Boneyard currently.

Not sure if guests were part of that FSU number. Regardless, a truly national team coming off a national title I would expect to be pretty high.

I wonder what it numbers look like compared to our regional teams.

 

[OkaForPrez]

You know I love HFD for keeping us in the conversation, even if that is only among message board types, but at the same time I sometimes read his stuff and start getting psyched...until I realize it is just Dan.

Embrace the delusion.

 

[billybud]

Including guests, I saw there were around 1,500 people on the Boneyard currently.

Not sure if guests were part of that FSU number. Regardless, a truly national team coming off a national title I would expect to be pretty high.

I wonder what it numbers look like compared to our regional teams.

No guests on the premium recruiting board...I pay.

 

[Fishy]

Scout and Rivals both game their on-line statistics - it's not the number of people currently on the site, it's the number of people who have been on the site during the past 12/24/36 hours, depending on how the publisher sets it. Everyone sets it to the max which is why even small sites like Providence, etc. will have a relatively large number. (Do you think there are 511 people currently on Scout's PC site?)

I don't remember what setting I used before we left Scout, but the site count here now is generally dead accurate. Since we're not a pay site and we don't force people to register, guests will generally outnumber registered members by a factor of 3-5.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Who knows where this plays out or when, but the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow them to host a conference championship even if their membership consists of an odd number. We can argue later about why the NCAA inserted the requirement for an even number. The real question is why is the ACC pushing this? They don't need another member, they are at 14 FT members now (ND does not count). Are they looking for a 15th in FB, and a 16th for all other sports? Are they concerned about the BIG making an offer to UConn, and cutting off the ACC's northern segment, with the crown jewels of DC and NYC firmly resting w/the BIG? There is smoke ....

I agree that there is logic to this; but, because it makes sense, UConn has learned it will never happen. With all of the simmering animosity between UConn and certain ACC schools, I honestly believe that Cincy has a better chance getting into the ACC than UConn. The Bearcats give the ACC a foothold in the Midwest, regional rivals to Pitt and Louisville, a better football program over the last 20 years, and a decent basketball program.
Thus, I am going to go back to reading something slightly more reliable than the CR rumor mill – the weather forecast!

 

[itgoeslike]

Who knows where this plays out or when, but the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow them to host a conference championship even if their membership consists of an odd number. We can argue later about why the NCAA inserted the requirement for an even number. The real question is why is the ACC pushing this? They don't need another member, they are at 14 FT members now (ND does not count). Are they looking for a 15th in FB, and a 16th for all other sports? Are they concerned about the BIG making an offer to UConn, and cutting off the ACC's northern segment, with the crown jewels of DC and NYC firmly resting w/the BIG? There is smoke ....

Unfortunately, I think it has more to do with positioning for a playoff spot. The ACC can't afford to have their top ranked team play a team ranked on the outskirts of the top 25 for the ACC championship. The ACC will typically have no more than 2 teams ranked in the top 15, so it becomes imperative for those two teams to play each other for the championship. For example, FSU has a close OOC loss to a top ten team to open the season, but runs the table in conference play. That team needs a win over a significant ranked team to have a chance for a playoff spot.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Scout and Rivals both game their on-line statistics - it's not the number of people currently on the site, it's the number of people who have been on the site during the past 12/24/36 hours, depending on how the publisher sets it. Everyone sets it to the max which is why even small sites like Providence, etc. will have a relatively large number. (Do you think there are 511 people currently on Scout's PC site?)

I don't remember what setting I used before we left Scout, but the site count here now is generally dead accurate. Since we're not a pay site and we don't force people to register, guests will generally outnumber registered members by a factor of 3-5.

I remember seeing that shortly after we ditched Scout for here. I went back there to look at something and saw my user name as being "online" at the time. I looked at the box on top and I wasn't logged in. Two days later I checked back and I was still listed as a user online.

 

[metsfan2323]

I agree that there is logic to this; but, because it makes sense, UConn has learned it will never happen. With all of the simmering animosity between UConn and certain ACC schools, I honestly believe that Cincy has a better chance getting into the ACC than UConn. The Bearcats give the ACC a foothold in the Midwest, regional rivals to Pitt and Louisville, a better football program over the last 20 years, and a decent basketball program.
Thus, I am going to go back to reading something slightly more reliable than the CR rumor mill – the weather forecast!

I know we have been conditioned to assume the worst, but I highly doubt that the ACC would take Cincy over UCONN. I think they would be more interested in locking down the northeast then they would be in securing a tiny bit of Ohio, plus UCONN is the better add.

HFD is known for his crazy theories, but this one isn't crazy, it may not be true, but it's not crazy.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I think the ACC is positioning itself to just have 1 14 team football conference and st the end of the season the two highest ranked teams will play. I think they do this in order to get the two best teams in the championship game and in order to create a very tv friendly schedule and to avoid the complaints and dissension in the division setup.

Is there any chance the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow uneven divisions to include UConn? One in a million shot. The one shot is ESPN saying add UConn and the payout increases by x, but we're only paying for UConn and not a 16th football member. Again, a total long shot but that would be the reasoning.

 

[HuskyJ]

I think the ACC is positioning itself to just have 1 14 team football conference and st the end of the season the two highest ranked teams will play. I think they do this in order to get the two best teams in the championship game and in order to create a very tv friendly schedule and to avoid the complaints and dissension in the division setup.

Is there any chance the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow uneven divisions to include UConn? One in a million shot. The one shot is ESPN saying add UConn and the payout increases by x, but we're only paying for UConn and not a 16th football member. Again, a total long shot but that would be the reasoning.

I think UCONN’s best bet with the ACC revolves around the formation of an ACC network. UCONN adds to much value in location, carriage fees and top level content in Olympic sports for ESPN in an ACC network.

 

[TRest]

I think the ACC is positioning itself to just have 1 14 team football conference and st the end of the season the two highest ranked teams will play. I think they do this in order to get the two best teams in the championship game and in order to create a very tv friendly schedule and to avoid the complaints and dissension in the division setup.

Is there any chance the ACC is petitioning the NCAA to allow uneven divisions to include UConn? One in a million shot. The one shot is ESPN saying add UConn and the payout increases by x, but we're only paying for UConn and not a 16th football member. Again, a total long shot but that would be the reasoning.

My understanding is that traditional ACC rivals are tired of not playing each other annually yet forced into divisions with NE teams they have no history with.

 

[metsfan2323]

My understanding is that traditional ACC rivals are tired of not playing each other annually yet forced into divisions with NE teams they have no history with.

So they set up three divisions of 5 and just ignore the northeast division when picking the two teams for their championship game. It actually makes sense.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Purely speculation on my part but as all the talk back when it looked like the B-12 was history was that Texas wanted to eventually go independent (after giving the LHN about a dozen years to develop), my belief is that the ACC is holding out for the day they can offer Texas the same deal ND has. I see this as about a decade away.

 

[TRest]

So they set up three divisions of 5 and just ignore the northeast division when picking the two teams for their championship game. It actually makes sense.

It seems plausible.

 

[UConnJim]

Purely speculation on my part but as all the talk back when it looked like the B-12 was history was that Texas wanted to eventually go independent (after giving the LHN about a dozen years to develop), my belief is that the ACC is holding out for the day they can offer Texas the same deal ND has. I see this as about a decade away.

ACC offered ND the hybrid option during a moment of weakness with the hopes of eventual full time membership. Many of the schools in the ACC will find out over time that ND has a sweetheart deal and really doesn't play well with others. In a few years, I don't think the ACC will be too happy with the ND deal.

I seriously doubt that the ACC would ever offer a hybrid option to Texas, especially after they experience ND. And, having Olympic sports include Texas makes no sense due to travel. The travel would kill Texas sports. LT, I think either Texas joins the Pac 12 with a pod of local schools (Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Texas Tech) or a pod of the Big 12 joins with pods of the ACC to form a new conference.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

ACC offered ND the hybrid option during a moment of weakness with the hopes of eventual full time membership. Many of the schools in the ACC will find out over time that ND has a sweetheart deal and really doesn't play well with others. In a few years, I don't think the ACC will be too happy with the ND deal.

I seriously doubt that the ACC would ever offer a hybrid option to Texas, especially after they experience ND. And, having Olympic sports include Texas makes no sense due to travel. The travel would kill Texas sports. LT, I think either Texas joins the Pac 12 with a pod of local schools (Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Texas Tech) or a pod of the Big 12 joins with pods of the ACC to form a new conference.

If the XII was to die, I believe athletically, the SEC makes most sense for Texas (win at football at any cost), and culturally the B1G makes the most sense (state flagship, good Olympic sports and strong academics); but, because Texas wants to be treated special and its political need to take care of its little cousin (Texas Tech), I believe Texas will end up in the PAC.