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Husky25 said:
True. but also depends on what the viewer is doing in the meantime. For instance, my son gets a bath and goes to bed between 7:00 and 8:00 every night, which is primetime for me to cook dinner while my wife gives him the a bath. It's hard to give the UConn game my undivided attention, while I am watching time and temp for dinner. So I DVR the first half of the and start watching as he is being put to sleep. I can pretty much catch up to the end of the game at 9:00 by fast forwarding through commercials and halftime.

Same thing with Football. A DVRed football game can easily be watched in about an hour and a half. If I'm doing yard work or something, I can easily stay away from the score. As Chin says the more time between taping to viewing, the harder it is to avoid knowing the outcome.
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All of which is not new... and UConn remains in the AAC with no evidence that is going to change outside of the Big 10 fever dreams posted on the Boneyard.
 
whaler11 said:
Yet here UConn is with no invite to either. Why would the Big 10 risk UConn being damaged by the AAC if they wanted them? I'll hang up and listen to your response.
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They don't care about whether we are damaged or not. They did research on us, we didn't meet their metrics.

If we get AAU, improve our football team, and keep our basketball team (both) winning, suddenly we might look more impressive. Especially if we can also keep our ratings up. And then, when the B1G reevaluates teams for expansion, suddenly we fit those metrics.

That's the best case scenario.
 
tzznandrew said:
They don't care about whether we are damaged or not. They did research on us, we didn't meet their metrics.

If we get AAU, improve our football team, and keep our basketball team (both) winning, suddenly we might look more impressive. Especially if we can also keep our ratings up. And then, when the B1G reevaluates teams for expansion, suddenly we fit those metrics.

That's the best case scenario.
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If they don't care if we are damaged they aren't too interested - which would be my point. If they were interested they wouldn't risk letting UConn wither on the AAC vine.

I'd love to understand how a case could be made that UConn could improve the metrics while in the AAC - since there doesn't seem to be a case beyond blind faith.
 
whaler11 said:
All of which is not new... and UConn remains in the AAC with no evidence that is going to change outside of the Big 10 fever dreams posted on the Boneyard.
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What does being in the AAC and Big Ten fever dreams have to do with my UConn viewing process? I do not mention UConn's predicament because I cannot do anything about it. On the other hand. I do not think President Herbst and Athletic Director Manuel are just sitting on their hands, or playing solitaire at their desk everyday. I'm well aware of UConn's current Conference position, as I'm sure they are. I am hoping for a Big Ten invite at some point and I think the ACC is a consolation prize, but again, I do not comment (very much) on it. It's a waste of time.
 
I have been a proponent of UConn to the B1G for a few years.
My reasons were primarily the BiG is a much better cultural fit.
It's actually a no brainer move on their part.
Heck Ohio was part of Connecticut at one time. The roots of many Midwesterners run through New England.
I had pretty much given up seeing it in my lifetime. The reasons were lack of a partner, AAU status, and relative size of the UConn In a number of key metrics.

The reason I believe it's a lot closer than originally thought is ESPN.
By any business strategy we're one of their top properties in the richest basketball area of the country. They should be pumping us up.
I'm not a conspiracy guy but they have gone out of the way to do the opposite.

There can be only two reasons for their bizarre behavior.
One. even though they got the AAC cheap,they are committed to the ACC so much that a popular AAC will hurt the ACC strategy. The AAC contract is relatively short term. The next round will be much more costly.
I don't believe that.
Two UConn's departure is imminent and based on the crazy AAC contract ESPN will lose a top property and significant revenue.
The B1G 10 network becomes a significant player in their own back yard. In fact in their own state.
Their only other option was to force the ACC to take us. I suspect that was their plan B, but for some reason it failed. Probably our football team.
I really don't believe in personal vendettas as business decisions revolve around money.
I know we have some stanch ESPN defenders on this board . I would love to hear their Apologia.
 
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Husky25 said:
What does being in the AAC and Big Ten fever dreams have to do with my UConn viewing process? I do not mention UConn's predicament because I cannot do anything about it. On the other hand. I do not think President Herbst and Athletic Director Manuel are just sitting on their hands, or playing solitaire at their desk everyday. I'm well aware of UConn's current Conference position, as I'm sure they are. I am hoping for a Big Ten invite at some point and I think the ACC is a consolation prize, but again, I do not comment (very much) on it. It's a waste of time.
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It has nothing to do with your viewing process. You seem to be making the case they are interested in UConn because of sports programming and DVR's... A dynamic that already exists and UConn remains in the AAC - so it's hard to understand why you think that dynamic is going to change anything for UConn.
 
whaler11 said:
It has nothing to do with your viewing process. You seem to be making the case they are interested in UConn because of sports programming and DVR's... A dynamic that already exists and UConn remains in the AAC - so it's hard to understand why you think that dynamic is going to change anything for UConn.
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But I wasn't. I commented on why live sporting events are largely DVR-proof.

If UConn gets an invite to the Big Ten (I think they will, but not in the immediate future. And no, I have nothing concrete. I can only back up my view with circumstantial conjecture and unsubstantiated innuendo), they will have to demonstrate an increased endowment and AAU status, as well as success on the field, court, and ice.

I believe UConn has been left on the vine for three reasons. 1) Bad timing (of sanctions and 3 lost years of football); 2) Both the Big Ten and ACC are waiting to see the effects the of Rutgers has on the BTN in NYC; and 3) Besides their football perception, there were rumors that Louisville was being courted by the Big 12 as well. Louisville was in demand. There was not such demand for UConn.
 
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whaler11 said:
Right so this idea that the Big 10 is sitting around waiting to send us roses and take us to the prom once we get our braces off is just silly.

UNC is the funniest one. Hell freezing over is an understatement when talking about them leaving the ACC. That Rutgers is in the Big 10 tells you the Big 10 could not land a fish anyone would want.
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You have a hard time with people agreeing with you, huh?
 
whaler11 said:
If they don't care if we are damaged they aren't too interested - which would be my point. If they were interested they wouldn't risk letting UConn wither on the AAC vine.

I'd love to understand how a case could be made that UConn could improve the metrics while in the AAC - since there doesn't seem to be a case beyond blind faith.
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I suspect they're keeping an eye on UConn, and other schools (some currently under GOR), as they should with due diligence.

I think our football will be improved, at least record and perception-wise, in the AAC.

Our Men's Basketball program is being hurt in the sense that there is less wiggle room for good seeds. But the recruiting hasn't really seemed to drop off one bit.

I think if we're performing well in the AAC, and our academics keep rising, we won't be hurt as much as we think.

But, I guess my point is that UConn isn't their concern. We failed their metrics, they'll keep tabs on us and others, and make a decision in a few years. If we survive those intervening years well enough (basketball seems fine, football likely improves record-wise, academics keep up), we'll get picked up. If not, well, that would suck, but not the B1G's concern.
 
I honestly think it's much more likely the Big12 breaks up (say Texas indy, OU/KU B1G) and we end up in an "eastern" Big12 division with Cinci, WV, UCF, USF and maybe a Memphis or ECU.

Still not ideal, but A LOT better than our current situation.

I think the B1G is a long shot, but a more reasonable long shot than the ACC. I fdon't think we'll ever be invited there.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I honestly think it's much more likely the Big12 breaks up (say Texas indy, OU/KU B1G) and we end up in an "eastern" Big12 division with Cinci, WV, UCF, USF and maybe a Memphis or ECU.

Still not ideal, but A LOT better than our current situation.

I think the B1G is a long shot, but a more reasonable long shot than the ACC. I fdon't think we'll ever be invited there.
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I think ACC and B1G are equally likely. Problem is that combined, they are as.likely as an extended run in the AAC and it's successors.
 
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Jim Delany is 65 years old. Let's hope he doesn't want to waste his final years hoping he can outlive these GOR's and he finds a way to invite two more schools by the time the BTN negotiations are finalized.

I really like the direction our entire athletic department is moving now with Diaco, Ollie, Geno, Cavanaugh, etc. carrying us forward. Meanwhile Susan and the state keep doing what their doing to keep raising us to higher academic places then we have ever been. Let the chips fall where they may over the next couple years.
 
The Viking said:
Jim Delany is 65 years old. Let's hope he doesn't want to waste his final years hoping he can outlive these GOR's and he finds a way to invite two more schools by the time the BTN negotiations are finalized.

I really like the direction our entire athletic department is moving now with Diaco, Ollie, Geno, Cavanaugh, etc. carrying us forward. Meanwhile Susan and the state keep doing what their doing to keep raising us to higher academic places then we have ever been. Let the chips fall where they may over the next couple years.
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The biggest reason behind my belief that we will get out of the AAC is the way UConn (athletics specifically) has aggressively moved forward since the BE break up. Academic improvement should be the goal of any president but I think SH has acted as an ambassador of athletics MUCH more than you typical president. When it comes to WM and the entire UConn athletic department, they have actively decided to invest greatly (in hockey, football, basketball and overall fan relations) in a time of obvious revenue decline. This can only mean one of two things:

1. WM and SH are blindly doubling down on our university in attempts to keep up with the Jones' so to speak.

OR

2. They know for a fact or are fairly confident that UConn will be out of the AAC in the next 2-6 years.

This is very simplistic and I know that there our other universities making investments outside of the P5 (stadiums @ Cincy, Houston, Tulane) but in UConn's current position of a 60M+ budget it makes no sense to take on more expenses without more revenue. When schools like Temple are cutting sports in the AAC we are spending more money: a high level hockey program [plus equivillent title IX expenditures], increase in football expenses, commitment to basketball facilities.

This may be a reach and I doubt there is an invite on the table but I believe SH and WM have some inside info as to the market value of UConn to other conferences and potential changes in the short/medium-term future. Ideally, the B1G will invite us in 20 minutes and save us the months/years of stress, frustration and diminished work productivity this CR forum has caused.
 
Husky25 said:
But I wasn't. I commented on why live sporting events are largely DVR-proof.

If UConn gets an invite to the Big Ten (I think they will, but not in the immediate future. And no, I have nothing concrete. I can only back up my view with circumstantial conjecture and unsubstantiated innuendo), they will have to demonstrate an increased endowment and AAU status, as well as success on the field, court, and ice.

I believe UConn has been left on the vine for three reasons. 1) Bad timing (of sanctions and 3 lost years of football); 2) Both the Big Ten and ACC are waiting to see the effects the of Rutgers has on the BTN in NYC; and 3) Besides their football perception, there were rumors that Louisville was being courted by the Big 12 as well. Louisville was in demand. There was not such demand for UConn.
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Umm... you forgot what you wrote?

Husky25: The only bit of reality is the need for DVR proof programming, especially for the BTN. What it means is that hockey and women's basketball mean more to the B1G than to any other conference. UConn is to women's hoops what Notre Dame is to football, even beyond that really. They elevate every team in the league and turn a no-interest sport into one with followers. And we're the only school out there that brings hockey.
 
SubbaBub said:
You have a hard time with people agreeing with you, huh?
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Well... since I was replying to the ideas that:

A. UConn is a candidate for the Big 10 (I don't believe that they are in any way shape or form)
B. There is any impact to BTN revenue driven by women's basketball (it's similar to the impact of bottle deposits on your household revenues)
C. UConn won't be harmed by being in the AAC (Check in next February)
D. Schools like UNC are ever leaving their league

I wouldn't say people were agreeing with me.

I also don't believe that Herbst and/or Warde have any additional insight. What option does Herbst have? Say she gives up? She'd be run out of town by the end of the day.

You want in the Big 10? Figure out how you create enough revenue for the league to make a legitimate impact on what the other schools get. To even generate an incremental $1MM per school, you've got to be worth at least 50MM to the league annually. You'll also need a 2nd school that is available that can generate that revenue - and the schools still have to agree it's worth playing Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan State a little bit less often because you'll be on their schedule.

Delany has made it quite clear it's not about what the Big 10 can do for you, it's what can you do for the Big 10.
 
whaler11 said:
Well... since I was replying to the ideas that:

A. UConn is a candidate for the Big 10 (I don't believe that they are in any way shape or form)
B. There is any impact to BTN revenue driven by women's basketball (it's similar to the impact of bottle deposits on your household revenues)
C. UConn won't be harmed by being in the AAC (Check in next February)
D. Schools like UNC are ever leaving their league

I wouldn't say people were agreeing with me.

I also don't believe that Herbst and/or Warde have any additional insight. What option does Herbst have? Say she gives up? She'd be run out of town by the end of the day.

You want in the Big 10? Figure out how you create enough revenue for the league to make a legitimate impact on what the other schools get. To even generate an incremental $1MM per school, you've got to be worth at least 50MM to the league annually. You'll also need a 2nd school that is available that can generate that revenue - and the schools still have to agree it's worth playing Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan State a little bit less often because you'll be on their schedule.

Delany has made it quite clear it's not about what the Big 10 can do for you, it's what can you do for the Big 10.
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I agree with a lot here but what was he thinking picking Rutgers ? I do not believe they will bring anywhere near the eyeballs he hopes. No way Rutgers is worth 50MM to BIG
 
HuskyBandDad said:
I agree with a lot here but what was he thinking picking Rutgers ? I do not believe they will bring anywhere near the eyeballs he hopes. No way Rutgers is worth 50MM to BIG
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Doesn't matter if anyone watches. It matters if they can add cable subscribers. Fox just bought a controlling stake in YES so they are headed to war with the NYC cable cos.
 
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Husky25 said:
True. but also depends on what the viewer is doing in the meantime. For instance, my son gets a bath and goes to bed between 7:00 and 8:00 every night, which is primetime for me to cook dinner while my wife gives him the a bath. It's hard to give the UConn game my undivided attention, while I am watching time and temp for dinner. So I DVR the first half of the and start watching as he is being put to sleep. I can pretty much catch up to the end of the game at 9:00 by fast forwarding through commercials and halftime.

Same thing with Football. A DVRed football game can easily be watched in about an hour and a half. If I'm doing yard work or something, I can easily stay away from the score. As Chin says the more time between taping to viewing, the harder it is to avoid knowing the outcome.
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What group of letters (called a word) or group of words (called a sentence) or group of sentences (called a paragraph) in the above post has to do with potentially going the Big Ten? Check to see if my post was the one you really wanted to reply to. I'm not convinced it is.
 
whaler11 said:
Well... since I was replying to the ideas that:

A. UConn is a candidate for the Big 10 (I don't believe that they are in any way shape or form)
B. There is any impact to BTN revenue driven by women's basketball (it's similar to the impact of bottle deposits on your household revenues)
C. UConn won't be harmed by being in the AAC (Check in next February)
D. Schools like UNC are ever leaving their league

I wouldn't say people were agreeing with me.

I also don't believe that Herbst and/or Warde have any additional insight. What option does Herbst have? Say she gives up? She'd be run out of town by the end of the day.

You want in the Big 10? Figure out how you create enough revenue for the league to make a legitimate impact on what the other schools get. To even generate an incremental $1MM per school, you've got to be worth at least 50MM to the league annually. You'll also need a 2nd school that is available that can generate that revenue - and the schools still have to agree it's worth playing Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan State a little bit less often because you'll be on their schedule.

Delany has made it quite clear it's not about what the Big 10 can do for you, it's what can you do for the Big 10.
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I think the number is significantly bigger than $50MM. The B1G is not adding any schools if their revenues only increase by a couple million per school.

They forecasted to MD that they would see revenues of $40MM per yr by 2020. In order to add 2 additional teams to get to 16, and move the needle enough to get buy-in from the members, the real number is probably closer to $100MM.

The only schools that have the ability to come close to that number are Texas & maybe North Carolina. As long as Texas has the LHN they won't leave the Big 12 & the ACC would have to implode 1st for Carolina to leave.

IMO, I don't see the B1G expanding for a long, long time
 
whaler11 said:
Doesn't matter if anyone watches. It matters if they can add cable subscribers. Fox just bought a controlling stake in YES so they are headed to war with the NYC cable cos.
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This is the key to all of this.

The fight over the MSG network was bad but, this will be much worse. There are many more Yankee fans than Rangers/Knicks fans who will go ballistic if they can't watch baseball all summer.

The naysayers will talk about how baseball attendance at Yankee stadium is declining but that in no way is an indicator of the number of viewers that YES draws.

FOX will get the BTN network on NYC cable, it's just a matter of how much they will get paid for it
 
bobbyinaz said:
I think the number is significantly bigger than $50MM. The B1G is not adding any schools if their revenues only increase by a couple million per school.

They forecasted to MD that they would see revenues of $40MM per yr by 2020. In order to add 2 additional teams to get to 16, and move the needle enough to get buy-in from the members, the real number is probably closer to $100MM.

The only schools that have the ability to come close to that number are Texas & maybe North Carolina. As long as Texas has the LHN they won't leave the Big 12 & the ACC would have to implode 1st for Carolina to leave.

IMO, I don't see the B1G expanding for a long, long time
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I think the number all in is a lot bigger than 50 too, but I was trying to be nice.

I still think the Big 10 might wake up some day many years from now and realize if they want to be an actual athletic conference and not a bunch of handjobs counting research money they will come to their senses on Florida State.
 
Husky25 said:
You responded to the following post:

What group of letters (called a word) or group of words (called a sentence) or group of sentences (called a paragraph) in the above post has to do with potentially going the Big Ten? Check to see if my post was the one you really wanted to reply to. I'm not convinced it is.
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Guy I was replying to the sum of your posts in the thread, sorry if I referenced something you said earlier.

Of course your rules of order don't change the fact that you said it one page prior.

Do you get amnesia about what you write if it isn't quoted for you. I think you might have AUD. Advanced Upstater Disorder.
 
Quit it with the condescension ( what are you? 70? Who addresses someone as merely, "Guy"?)

You interject youself on a conversation of which you were not a part only to stir up some sort of controversy? If you have an disagreement, issue, or comment otherwise of what i said, quote that post, not one 15 posts up the line. I'm a father of an 18 month old. I don't remember what I did this morning let a lone yesterday, the day before, or when I was 26.

With all due respect (as a UConn fan), you need learn something about context. In the meantime go pick a fight with a former quarterback recruit's father.
 
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Husky25 said:
Quit it with the condescension ( what are you? 70? Who addresses someone as merely, "Guy"?)

You interject youself on a conversation of which you were not a part only to stir up some sort of controversy? If you have an disagreement, issue, or comment otherwise of what i said, quote that post, not one 15 posts up the line. I'm a father of an 18 month old. I don't remember what I did this morning let a lone yesterday, the day before, or when I was 26.

With all due respect (as a UConn fan), you need learn something about context. In the meantime go pick a fight with a former quarterback recruit's father.
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He does this all the time.
 
Husky25 said:
Quit it with the condescension ( what are you? 70? Who addresses someone as merely, "Guy"?)

You interject youself on a conversation of which you were not a part only to stir up some sort of controversy? If you have an disagreement, issue, or comment otherwise of what i said, quote that post, not one 15 posts up the line. I'm a father of an 18 month old. I don't remember what I did this morning let a lone yesterday, the day before, or when I was 26.

With all due respect (as a UConn fan), you need learn something about context. In the meantime go pick a fight with a former quarterback recruit's father.
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Well, if you're talking to this guy, well, Guy is his name.

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At least HFD has the dignity to say he just starts rumors.
 
sigh....There used to be a sort of pride of craft amongst trolls.

Everything is now just so blatant, no subtlety, no camouflage.
 
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