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[BlueHen]

In a lot of ways, taking Connecticut makes strategic sense for the big 12. It takes away a tool from the ACC to rebuild after the major programs leave and it may make the big 12 a more attractive destination for East Coast teams.

The power conferences have been cannibalizing themselves for decades.
It was the BCS6
Then the Power 5
Now it's the Power 4

The ACC and the Big12 are battling for the #3 spot. For reasons that you mentioned, adding UConn can definitely help the Big 12.

The ACC is in a tough spot right now, they can't really add anyone when two of their biggest football schools want out. If they get out early, the ACC will clearly be the #4 power conference, probably far back from #3. If they can't get out early, it will be a toxic situation for at least a decade.

 

[Forte]

In a lot of ways, taking Connecticut makes strategic sense for the big 12. It takes away a tool from the ACC to rebuild after the major programs leave and it may make the big 12 a more attractive destination for East Coast teams.

I think Memphis is a better fit for the Big 12 in the eyes of Presidents regionally, culturally, football-wise, and academically, and they have solid bball. I would not be surprised if they ultimately leapfrog us after this dog and pony show.

 

[superjohn]

I think Memphis is a better fit for the Big 12 in the eyes of Presidents regionally, culturally, football-wise, and academically, and they have solid bball. I would not be surprised if they ultimately leapfrog us after this dog and pony show.

If you can get a horrible academic commuter school in the most dangerous city in the country who has never won anything and nobody else wants you have to strike while the iron is hot and get them.

 

[UConnJim]

If there is any chance that the ACC is coming apart, then the Big 12 is not adding UConn.

What if only 4 schools from the ACC get P2 invites? Then there are still 13 schools plus Notre Dame in the ACC and you can backfill. Clearly weaker, but they survive if they want. But, what if the Big 12 has UConn already, would that attract say 3 schools from the ACC to defect as they would be afraid that another ACC school would take their spot in the Big 12?

 

[noeynox]

If you can get a horrible academic commuter school in the most dangerous city in the country who has never won anything and nobody else wants you have to strike while the iron is hot and get them.

Superjohn, let's be nice to midwesterners.

Also superjohn, Memphis is worst than Baghdad and their students can't read.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Clown

How does this person know this. What is his source or sources?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Superjohn, let's be nice to midwesterners.

Also superjohn, Memphis is worst than Baghdad and their students can't read.

Why can't both be legitimate takes?

 

[noeynox]

Why can't both be legitimate takes?

Didn't say it they couldn't be. But its funny to say lets be nice then rip some other school. By the way i can't stand Memphis, but i still find it funny to tell people to be nice than crap on another city/school.

 

[WrenchFan69]

ACC East
1) UConn 2) Cuse 3) BC 4) VT 5) UVA

ACC South
1) NC St 2) Duke 3) Wake 4) GT 5) USF

ACC Central:
1) Pitt 2) Lville 3) Memphis 4) Tulane 5) SMU

ACC West:
1) Wazzu 2) OR St 3) Cal 4) Stanford 5) SDSU

20 schools plus Notre Dame as a non-football member w/ a scheduling agreement. I'd take it as a worst case scenario.

Stuff like this is why I think 20(+1) would be the sweet-spot for fans/competition. Play your pod every year and rotate the other 3 through for football. 9 conference football games. Play everybody once a year for basketball giving 19 (20) conference games. That said if the ACC falls apart I don't necessarily see the Big 12 stopping at 20. The B1G and SEC might

 

[HuskyHawk]

Didn't say it they couldn't be. But its funny to say lets be nice then rip some other school. By the way i can't stand Memphis, but i still find it funny to tell people to be nice than crap on another city/school.

Tennessee isn't the Midwest. Everyone craps on Memphis.

 

[bendm]

Stuff like this is why I think 20(+1) would be the sweet-spot for fans/competition. Play your pod every year and rotate the other 3 through for football. 9 conference football games. Play everybody once a year for basketball giving 19 (20) conference games. That said if the ACC falls apart I don't necessarily see the Big 12 stopping at 20. The B1G and SEC might

yeah i would be fine watching UConn compete in that iteration of ACC for the rest of my life but we cant know how many ACC teams will be leftover or who they will be. that's too big of a risk to count on.

 

[UC1995]

yeah i would be fine watching UConn compete in that iteration of ACC for the rest of my life but we cant know how many ACC teams will be leftover or who they will be. that's too big of a risk to count on.

The ACC does not want us for whatever reason. I’d much rather go someplace that wants us and sees our value, then be left with what’s left after it implodes

 

[bendm]

The ACC does not want us for whatever reason. I’d much rather go someplace that wants us and sees our value, then be left with what’s left after it implodes

without F$U, Miami, Clemson, UNC it wouldnt be the ACC that we know and hate, and necessarily hates us, but i agree w/ the sentiment

 

[Forte]

The ACC does not want us for whatever reason. I’d much rather go someplace that wants us and sees our value, then be left with what’s left after it implodes

So at this point ... the Big East. Let's see how staying works out for us over time. Not that we have much of a choice. Being UConn we know that the end game will be the worst possible scenario... UConn and Big East teams poached bball only. Football stays on the vine.

 

[Blades]

 

[UConnJim]

I think Memphis is a better fit for the Big 12 in the eyes of Presidents regionally, culturally, football-wise, and academically, and they have solid bball. I would not be surprised if they ultimately leapfrog us after this dog and pony show.

Memphis is even below Big 12 standards academically as they would be the lowest ranked Big 12 school. Eight Big 12 schools are ranked 115 or below by US News with the lowest ranked school, WVU and Texas Tech tied at 216. Memphis is ranked 269.

 

[superjohn]

Superjohn, let's be nice to midwesterners.

Also superjohn, Memphis is worst than Baghdad and their students can't read.

I wouldn't take swipes at the kids or say any awful stereotypes of the people who live there.

Everything I said is true and not a nasty stereotype. It is an awful academic school, it would be the worst academic school in the Big 12. It is a commuter school, only 18% of undergrads live on campus. They've never won anything. This can be disputed, apparently their pom squad is amazing winning many national championships for dance. Memphis has the highest murder rate in the country.

 

[Hamms30]

Superjohn, let's be nice to midwesterners.

Also superjohn, Memphis is worst than Baghdad and their students can't read.

there's only two things I can't stand in this world.

 

[UC1995]

So at this point ... the Big East. Let's see how staying works out for us over time. Not that we have much of a choice. Being UConn we know that the end game will be the worst possible scenario... UConn and Big East teams poached bball only. Football stays on the vine.

I think as fans, we need to understand this. The big east will cease to be a power basketball conference because we will not be able to compete with not only the new media deals revenue, even if we got rid of football because we won’t be able to do revenue distribution with the players, which is also something that is now reality. You’re not going to get kids to come play at UConn if we do not have same sources of income for them as we do now.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

-1000% chance of UConn, Colorado and the Arizonas or not the Arizonas getting invited to join the Big 12. -1000%. Once the Big 12 turns west, it is never turning east again.

To clarify, UConn is joining the Big 12 on its own, or it isn't. There is a higher likelihood of UConn joining the Big 12 with UMass than there is of Colorado, UConn and UA/ASU joining the Big 12 together.

These "Big 12 is adding UConn so it can add a bunch of ACC schools later" theories sound familiar. They were ridiculous last summer, and they are ridiculous this summer.

If the Big 12 is adding UConn, it means it doesn't think the ACC is breaking up anytime soon.

 

[bendm]

These "Big 12 is adding UConn so it can add a bunch of ACC schools later" theories sound familiar. They were ridiculous last summer, and they are ridiculous this summer.

If the Big 12 is adding UConn, it means it doesn't think the ACC is breaking up anytime soon.

WE GET IT. you are a broken record. who are you even arguing? everyone with a brain understands that we have to get into the BIg12 before it becomes certain that the ACC is imploding, which will be by 2036 at the latest.

this understanding is not inconsistent with the hope that a bunch of ACC schools will join the Big12 after we do.

 

[Hondo 77]

You have no idea how many people outside of Connecticut believe that ESPN favors us greatly and that the only reason for our success is because ESPN is a resident of our state.

Most can't comprehend that a state company would not want to do anything it could to promote the state school and there aren't a lot of people who truly follow what has transpired over the past decade and a half.

Isn’t ESPN full of Syracuse alumni?

 

[EnochRoot]

These "Big 12 is adding UConn so it can add a bunch of ACC schools later" theories sound familiar. They were ridiculous last summer, and they are ridiculous this summer.

If the Big 12 is adding UConn, it means it doesn't think the ACC is breaking up anytime soon.

FSU will leave the ACC, and Clemson won't be far behind.

As for any further defections, you'd have to ask the board of regents in Chapel Hill about how they feel about the inevitable invite from the Big Ten. That one is absolutely coming down the pike once the ACC's TV deal enters even shakier territory.

 

[Hondo 77]

The ACC has had two decades for assertive action that would make all the sense in the world for them and they've done nothing but continue to weaken their brand.

The only proactive move was to destroy the Big East. It sat back and thought it won the endgame. Trouble is the game wasn’t over and every move since has been reactive.

 

[EnochRoot]

The only proactive move was to destroy the Big East. It sat back and thought it won the endgame. Trouble is the game wasn’t over and every move since has been reactive.

They shoved Maryland out the door by pushing them into a second/third class in their basketball conference scheduling. The Big Ten observed and the Big Ten pounced.