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Stinger92860 said:
One more long shot. KU to BIG, partner comes from the ACC, Maybe Virginia, we fill the open ACC Slot.
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Yes, along with the rumblings that Mizzou, who left the B12 because they hated UT, would go with KU.
 
CL82 said:
In order of likelihood:
1) Scheduling opportunities for UConn, especially if more schools are pushed into independence.

2) Possible move of KU to the Big East, though unlikely in my opinion, since a refurbished Big 12 will still have better media revenue in the near term.

3) Possible move of ND to the ACC as a full member with UConn as a possible partner.

4) Possible move of ND to the B1G as a full member with UConn as a possible replacement in the ACC.

5) Possible conference expansion in the B1G or ACC without ND with UConn as possible addition.

6) Possible move of ND to the B1G as a full member with UConn as a possible partner.

But probably not much.
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Other than #2, which I'd replace with a move to B1G perhaps with Missouri or someone else and #4 and #6 which ND cannot do without breach of contract, these make some sense. KU would have no interest in the Big East. #3 is the most viable beyond #1.

We all know the B12 was in the most precarious spot. That's why the last expansion was a big topic. Will be interesting to see what happens here. Losing Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou and A&M really weakened it.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Other than #2, which I'd replace with a move to B1G perhaps with Missouri or someone else and #4 and #6 which ND cannot do without breach of contract, these make some sense. KU would have no interest in the Big East. #3 is the most viable beyond #1.

We all know the B12 was in the most precarious spot. That's why the last expansion was a big topic. Will be interesting to see what happens here. Losing Nebraska, Colorado, Mizzou and A&M really weakened it.
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No one is moving between the SEC to Big 10. The numbers don't justify it. That's why I'd discount that.

Yeah KU moving the BE is a longshot, it is just the shortest longshot of everything I mentioned.

If we move to 4 16 team super-conferences, Connecticut has a chance of being swept up, so I guess that should be on the list, but it would either be to the ACC or the B1G and I think ND would climb on board were that to happen.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, along with the rumblings that Mizzou, who left the B12 because they hated UT, would go with KU.
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I remember reading/hearing that Missouri was Delany and B1G desired choice when they got realignment rolling 12 years ago. Somehow or another negotiations went south and Nebraska became the choice.
 
bristol rises said:
I remember reading/hearing that Missouri was Delany and B1G desired choice when they got realignment rolling 12 years ago. Somehow or another negotiations went south and Nebraska became the choice.
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The rumor I saw was that they asked and B1G turned them down several times. Neither St Louis nor KC are "SEC country". Springfield, yeah, maybe. But things have changed and I'm not sure the B1G can afford to be as picky now.
 
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Durks07 said:
I missed this thread so much.
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It's a little like the first mow of the season. A little hard to get her started, but once she does, it's off to the races.

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Heads up:

New Realignment Thread will be posted @Minnesota247 tomorrow with newest information.

This story is not going away. Big Ten have been in communication with other universities. Very preliminary…but not starting from scratch. Realignment was always coming 2023-25.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV
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Sources indicate the flirtations of Texas and OU with the SEC are a ploy to test the waters for the eventual kingpin of the deal - bringing WV. OU/Texas acting as feelers to report back to Morgantown.
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Lmao. I guess the one good thing of him not biking off a cliff yet is gems like this one. Holy lol.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV
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Sources indicate the flirtations of Texas and OU with the SEC are a ploy to test the waters for the eventual kingpin of the deal - bringing WV. OU/Texas acting as feelers to report back to Morgantown.
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This can't be a real tweet.
 
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coachcap said:
West Virginia to the ACC is a geographical fit, BUT, what do they bring to the table to significantly move the needle? If streaming is the future, their appeal to the streaming services is marginal when compared to other choices.
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Any time you can get the 40th most populated state which also lost more people than any other state over the past decade and is located over an hour away from the nearest TV market and is a school with average at best academics.........you go for it.
 
WVU is rather popular nationally for some reason. They have decent tv ratings and strong merchandise sales. There are a lot of factors at play. I would think the ACC could see value in WVU and Cincy. Both are good programs that have history with Pitt, BC, Syracuse and each other. Cincy also gets you into Ohio for recruiting.
 
Hoophound said:
WVU is rather popular nationally for some reason. They have decent tv ratings and strong merchandise sales. There are a lot of factors at play. I would think the ACC could see value in WVU and Cincy. Both are good programs that have history with Pitt, BC, Syracuse and each other. Cincy also gets you into Ohio for recruiting.
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I do not think the ACC sees value in Cincinnati, though I agree they would see potential value in WVU.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
I do not think the ACC sees value in Cincinnati, though I agree they would see potential value in WVU.
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I can't imagine that Cincinnati would be preferred over UConn. WVU, yeah, I could see that.

What's the thinking on the yard? If an ACC invite comes so soon after we joined the Big East, do we take it? I think so.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I can't imagine that Cincinnati would be preferred over UConn. WVU, yeah, I could see that.

What's the thinking on the yard? If an ACC invite comes so soon after we joined the Big East, do we take it? I think so.
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Yep. I don't see it happening, but yep. It will cost us $30M, but yep. I freaking hate a bunch of those schools, but still... yep.
 
Have to take it if an invite comes. It is all part of survival. I think the presumption was that we had 5-10 years before a big reshuffle would occur, which was obviously way off.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I can't imagine that Cincinnati would be preferred over UConn. WVU, yeah, I could see that.

What's the thinking on the yard? If an ACC invite comes so soon after we joined the Big East, do we take it? I think so.
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A full membership invite to ACC? I can't see how we would turn that down unless it came with the most absurd financial conditions ever. Thing is, it's not coming.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
A full membership invite to ACC? I can't see how we would turn that down unless it came with the most absurd financial conditions ever. Thing is, it's not coming.
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Read some comments from Bowlsby recently about how much has changed even since the last realignment talk (AAC teams to Big 12). He said they view everything differently now. Cable TV markets aren't very relevant. Broad national brand recognition and the size of your fanbase is what matters from a monetary value perspective.

To me this was obvious even then, but at least these guys have caught on. In that new world, UConn's value goes up. Some others go down.
 
Greg Flugaur

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Ask yourself what PAC Media partner is paying for PAC expansion? Won’t be ESPN. They won’t pay the bump to other PAC 12 teams while adding more slices for PAC to feed in adding Texas Tech and TCU while paying the bump to 14 SEC schools at the time OU/UT SEC add. 1/2

Greg Flugaur

@flugempire
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Will it be FOX Sports who gives PAC the nod to expand into central timezone candidates Texas Tech, TCU and possibly 2 others? Not until FOX Sports/Big Ten and few PAC schools(USC)have finished their talks. Al roads to next realignment goes through Mark Silverman at FOX Sports.

Greg Flugaur

@flugempire
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ESPN consolidated their College Sports assets in approving to reopen new Tier 1 deal starting in 2024 with SEC to give 14 SEC’s schools another bump in helping to move OU & UT to SEC. 1/2

Greg Flugaur

@flugempire
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You don’t believe FOX Sports will at least attempt to do the same?…to consolidate top PAC schools into their money making Big Ten Conference? The attempt will be made before any other moves are supported by FOX Sports. 2/2

Greg Flugaur

@flugempire
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I’ve seen lots of comments in regards to the potential of ACC adding WVU after Big 12 implodes. Ask yourself is ESPN committed to this move? ESPN already needs to bump 14 ACC schools during their look-in..while increasing already massive SEC Media deals (OU/UT). Tough question

Greg Flugaur

@flugempire
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And of course there is the Academic/Research standards of PAC schools which is huge barrier for PAC expansion of Texas Tech, TCU and 2 others in some latest reporting. Next domino to fall is not PAC expansion. It’s the aftermath of top PAC Schools/Big Ten/FOX Sports talks.
 
Another way to view this....TX and OK couldnt stay in the B12... media landscape wouldt support them at a level on par with the SEC and B1G. So with ESPN's blessing they will join the SEC to save themselves.

A reconstituted B12 is likely to have a media deal on par with the AAC.... I would think...which is lowly.

And if that is the case, can Cinci and UCF justify the AAC GOR penalty to move to the zombie B12? I think not.

If the B12 cannot secure a new media rights package that is sufficiently lucrative to draw a few G5s forward, then it seems the B12 is dead because backfilling with the SunBelt or CUSA is just not palatable.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Another way to view this....TX and OK couldnt stay in the B12... media landscape wouldt support them at a level on par with the SEC and B1G. So with ESPN's blessing they will join the SEC to save themselves.

A reconstituted B12 is likely to have a media deal on par with the AAC.... I would think...which is lowly.

And if that is the case, can Cinci and UCF justify the AAC GOR penalty to move to the zombie B12? I think not.

If the B12 cannot secure a new media rights package that is sufficiently lucrative to draw a few G5s forward, then it seems the B12 is dead because backfilling with the SunBelt or CUSA is just not palatable under and circumstance.
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IMO, only 1 of the AAC and B12 survive.

Once UT & Oklahoma are gone there is no cache to the B12 any longer. FOX would immediately blow up their deal with the conference putting all of the remaining B12 schools in limbo.

At that point the question becomes, which network wants to be the provider for the leftovers?

Does FOX decide to keep the B12 programming (with a few additions from the AAC) at a reduced rate or would they want to keep their ammo for the upcoming B1G negotiations? Or, does ESPN decide to bring some of the B12 leftovers into the AAC and provide a bump in money?
 
bobbyinaz said:
IMO, only 1 of the AAC and B12 survive.

Once UT & Oklahoma are gone there is no cache to the B12 any longer. FOX would immediately blow up their deal with the conference putting all of the remaining B12 schools in limbo.

At that point the question becomes, which network wants to be the provider for the leftovers?

Does FOX decide to keep the B12 programming (with a few additions from the AAC) at a reduced rate or would they want to keep their ammo for the upcoming B1G negotiations? Or, does ESPN decide to bring some of the B12 leftovers into the AAC and provide a bump in money?
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Yeah, but how does B12 add from the AAC give the 12 year GOR in place? Seems unlikely Fox could pay up to fix that expensive problem...unless ESPN agrees to let a couple AAC teams go and not financially penalize the conf...but even then maybe the fellow members of the AAC won't allow for such an easy exit. In the old B12 there was sufficient money to pay for G5 exits, but now it seems the B12 leftovers wont be able to offer enough to fix that issue.

Maybe the remaining B12 could add Boise and another MTW on the cheap because I dont think the MTW GOR is as strong.
 
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