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AZHuskiePop said:
I'm glad you noticed that because my original post was in he present tense.
The past tense more correctly reflects my feelings that this event should have already taken place.
It may have but i"m sceptical.
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Well, I pointed that out because I had that hope, too. But damn, when?
 
MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
My source is telling me the expansion candidates are now down to 3 and we won't go beyond 12 until after other conferences GORs are up

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
Those three are Uconn BYU and Cincy.

Jay Pritchard ‏@columbiasooner 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 so expansion is happening?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@columbiasooner it's not off the table. Just slowed. These are the three schools that will be vetted. UT will not give up LHN though

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@columbiasooner we should know by the end of the summer of expansion is going to happen or not-at least until next round of TV deals

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
I will get flamed for this but the word is there is very real interest from the AZ schools once P12 GOR expires.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
Hence the comment from Boren about limiting our options. Also why we won't go past 12 if we expand.

DocBunyan ‏@DocBunyan 40m40 minutes ago
@MH ver3 lololololololololol

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
@DocBunyan told you you'd flame me.

DocBunyan ‏@DocBunyan 5s5 seconds ago
@MH ver3 your source must be some disgruntled zona/asu grad living in texas.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
Also looking like a joint network with ACC might be both conferences best chance at a lucrative network. Especially with LHN off the table

dave horn ‏@10816dave 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 any chance that they pull the trigger today

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@10816dave doubtful if they even pull it by fall. They will announce they are/aren't expanding by then but not with who.

Thomas Hobson II ‏@ThomasHobsonII 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 So a joint network and everybody keeps their tier 3 rights?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@ThomasHobsonII no ESPN would get those. That's a lot of buyback from Fox and Raycom though.

Thomas Hobson II ‏@ThomasHobsonII 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 SO then how does Texas get whole? $15M per year plus intangible value? Not gonna happen unless they keep LHN which is tier 3 rights.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@ThomasHobsonII ESPN has those. LHN will remain as is.

Thomas Hobson II ‏@ThomasHobsonII 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 that makes no sense. OKU tier 3 is owned by fox, Kansas is owned by time warner and wvu is owned by ign.

jmgcougman ‏@jmgcougman 1h1 hour ago
. @MH ver3 So BYU is 11 with Cincy & UConn going all WVU/Louisville on each other in a dark alley somewhere. I'll bring the popcorn.

J ‏@UCONNfan14 44m44 minutes ago
@jmgcougman @MH ver3 from media out at meeting 1/2 no particular order uconn and cincy currently in 3rd byu after day 1 of data thursday

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
@UCONNfan14 @jmgcougman but honestly if not for Sunday play and BYUtv then BYU is clear number 1. Since those exist Uconn is 1
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31m31 minutes ago
Take note that all my predictions for the Big 12 came true: no expansion; network decision delayed; return of the CCG with 2 divisions of 5.

Kyle Jacobson ‏@MisterLubbock 34m34 minutes ago
A Big 12 championship game with 10 teams is dumb. Splitting into divisions with 10 teams is dumb. Not expanding/not having a network is dumb

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 30m30 minutes ago
@MisterLubbock What's not dumb is to wait. All good things come to those who wait...

Kraig Olsen ‏@KraigOlsen 31m31 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV Do you think they won't expand at all this year?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 29m29 minutes ago
@KraigOlsen There isn't any benefit right now. That won't change until 2018.

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe 32m32 minutes ago
Any division with less than 6 teams weakens the perceived value of divisional championship.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 23m23 minutes ago
@schadjoe So Boston College being in ACC Atlantic & GT in Coastal makes the ACC CCG more meaningful?
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Trip Manfro ‏@pfac51 22m22 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV LMAO you are going to PWN this guy. he should quit.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 13m13 minutes ago
@pfac51 @schadjoe Colorado & Oregon State were a combined 6-19.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 18m18 minutes ago
@pfac51 Well I happen to think that reporters like @schadjoe should put more thought into their opinions before casting them out.

Trip Manfro ‏@pfac51 10m10 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV true.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
@pfac51 @schadjoe The B1G had 7 schools below .500. That's 50% of the conf. But their CCG is more meaningful?
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Trip Manfro ‏@pfac51 7m7 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV i liked the 2015 B1G conf title game except the end.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 29m29 minutes ago
@schadjoe Really? That's stupid. The old rule of 2 divisions of 6 was arbitrary anyway. Explain why a CCG with 2 div of 5 is less.

Flintdawg ‏@Odharris1 29m29 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @schadjoe rematches

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 23m23 minutes ago
@Odharris1 @schadjoe The only easy out in the Big 12 is Kansas. 50% of the ACC is an easy out.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
@Odharris1 @schadjoe ESPN's CFB power index had the Big 12 rated just behind the SEC West.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 24m24 minutes ago
@Odharris1 @schadjoe Rematches? The loser of any CCG is in a bad spot. If a B12 team manages to win the B12 title it's ran the gauntlet.

Kirk BohlsVerified account‏@kbohls
Expansion for Big 12 is not dead. Maybe not even wounded. David Boren: "I wouldn't say it's cooled. I'd say it's ongoing."

Jake Trotter ‏@Jake_Trotter 18m18 minutes ago
Jake Trotter Retweeted Kirk Bohls

Totally agree. Expansion debate alive/well. But w/ network off table, could change way Big 12 views candidates

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
@Jake_Trotter @RedDirtSport @kbohls Quality of football program surpasses TV market in importance.

Dennis DoddVerified account‏@dennisdoddcbs
Boren says conference network pretty much on hold now. “Marketplace, in some ways, has decided that issue for us.”

Jon Solomon ‏@JonSolomonCBS 1h1 hour ago
Jon Solomon Retweeted Dennis Dodd

Impact of Texas and cord cutting

Doug Gottlieb ‏@GottliebShow 1h1 hour ago
@JonSolomonCBS there has never been a lust for Big 12 Net aside from Texas

Jon Solomon ‏@JonSolomonCBS 16m16 minutes ago
@GottliebShow Correct. It's been a long debate. A few have wanted it through the years. Probably a bad time to try it now if you're ESPN.

Carson Ingle ‏@caingle 14m14 minutes agoOrlando, FL
@JonSolomonCBS @GottliebShow why would it be bad for ESPN? They are already paying to lose money on LHN. They wouldn't lose $$$ on B12N.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8m8 minutes ago
@caingle @JonSolomonCBS @GottliebShow Market place is language used so as to not blame Texas.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8m8 minutes ago
@caingle @JonSolomonCBS @GottliebShow for ESPN the math is simple LHN 20M at $.01 < B12N 50M at $0.50.

Carson Ingle ‏@caingle 6m6 minutes agoOrlando, FL
@theDudeofWV @JonSolomonCBS @GottliebShow right and that's a conservative estimate for what the B12N would generate.
 
junglehusky said:
Rule #1 of Conference Realignment... exhibit 5482:

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Flug, shut the h ell up you lying piece of s hit a ss garbage that stinks worse than a fresh pile of crap spread on a farm field. You trolled UConn fans for years and should be permanently banned on this website.

Not directed at you jungle.
 
Christian Goodman ‏@troyboy8ball 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire Sounds like UT and OU compromised: champ game - YES, expansion - PROBABLE, Big12Net - NO. Big12 stronger than ever. Agree?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@troyboy8ball Agree on all parts...with the exception to the last part. Oklahoma will be in SEC or PAC or B1G no later than 2025. Period

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
It's illogical to have CCG with 10 schools. Completely. Expansion in B12 will happen...unless self sabotoge is in vogue in B12 country

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
B12 is 5 levels of stupid. This is not what Boren...what OU wanted. This is not reform...it's toxic explosion.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Big 12 is dead man walking....no wait. Big 12 is dead man crawling

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
When BTM gets a hold of me....we will shortly thereafter officially admit we were dead ass wrong. Flaming at @flugempire will begin shortly

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Our OU contacts were optimistic Big 12 would expand/CCG and build some sort of digital 3rd tier platform for at least branding purposes.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Texas is fine Oklahoma will be fine. Kansas should be fine. Other 7 will be in despair at the time corrupt HRC finishes her 2nd term.

Justin Friest ‏@ISUCloneKCChief 2h2 hours ago
@flugempire Do you really believe a conference network is the end all be all? Cable as we know is disapearing good luck with BTN in 10 years

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@ISUCloneKCChief Do you have any idea how far BTN has built its streaming properties? BTN2GO.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@troyboy8ball No. We were wrong. OU contacts believed reform would happen to give B12 a chance to survive post 2025.

David Ubben‏@davidubben
No question about it now: Big 12 has the toughest road to the CFP. Nine-game round robin + title game + Power 5 nonconference requirement.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted David Ubben

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidubben/status/738818732701540353… Mind blowing stupid.

Dennis DoddVerified account‏@dennisdoddcbs
Big 12 moves up to $30.4 million in revenue distribution. No 3 overall, 20 percent increase.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Dennis Dodd

https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/738803033430097920… These Big 12 revenues are for July 1st 2015...July 1st 2016. Other conferences are counting 2014-2015.

RedDirtSport‏@RedDirtSport
Big 12 was presented data that 13/12/8 was the easiest path to the CFB Playoff.. Big 12 goes 13/10/9...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted RedDirtSport

https://mobile.twitter.com/RedDirtSport/status/738821160075284481… Let's be blunt. University of Texas, after saving your life, will make you pay for the rest of your life. Gross.

BostonCoug ‏@BostonCoug 1h1 hour ago
@flugempire unless they expand. patience my friend. patience. Boren ain't done yet.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
@BostonCoug CCG at 10 schools with Round Robin...and now they're splitting up to 2 divisions even though they all gave same schedule..

reg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
@BostonCoug Who in their right minds would come up with this set-up? Nothing is logical in B12 Country.

BostonCoug ‏@BostonCoug 1h1 hour ago
@flugempire if they expand later this summer, they will go to 8 game conference schedules.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
@BostonCoug You would think so... You would hope so... So it won't happen.

John Shinn‏@john_shinn
Bowlsby: It's fair to say, there are still questions about whether adding members is the right thing.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 24m24 minutes ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted John Shinn

https://mobile.twitter.com/john_shinn/status/738803718175346688… Some serious internal Big 12 Sabotoge going on... ...CCG at 10/Round Robin/Conf games 9/w 2 divisions?

RedDirtSport‏@RedDirtSport
Big 12 literally paid some group 6 figures to tell them 12/8 is best. Big 12 does opposite



ME: Okay, unlike some here I'm not going to be hard on the Flug. He, like many who live in that region, has an affection or affinity with the college programs and is too emotionally connected to those programs to see the reality of the situation. The Big 12 is just not a conference that's built for the long term. Say what you will about the ACC but fans in the ACC want to be in the ACC. The Big 12 has fans like OU fans who want to get out, Texas fans who think everything is fine and a bunch of smalltime schools with smalltime fans who talk too much smack about how great the football is while ignoring the academic, social and political realities of college sports.

Oh, and UConn should go to the ACC, no matter what the yahoos in the backwoods say.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
ME: Okay, unlike some here I'm not going to be hard on the Flug. He, like many who live in that region, has an affection or affinity with the college programs and is too emotionally connected to those programs to see the reality of the situation. The Big 12 is just not a conference that's built for the long term. Say what you will about the ACC but fans in the ACC want to be in the ACC. The Big 12 has fans like OU fans who want to get out, Texas fans who think everything is fine and a bunch of smalltime schools with smalltime fans who talk too much smack about how great the football is while ignoring the academic, social and political realities of college sports.

Oh, and UConn should go to the ACC, no matter what the yahoos in the backwoods say.
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Yeah and I'd add that Flugar has been clear that his source is a Big Ten guy who talks to someone at OU. And anyone who follows CR (even without following Flugar or any twitter yahoos) knows that it was always OU and Boren who was trying to push this stuff forward but that the final outcome wasn't necessarily up to Boren alone... I always viewed Flugar's info that it would probably be UC/UConn or UC/BYU as being Oklahoma's preference. And when it came time to butt heads with Texas, the LHN was always going to be a tough nut to crack. So it's a really bad outcome for UConn but I'm not mad at Greg, because he was always representing one point of view in a room with 12 schools plus ESPN / Fox. (He could be full of crap still, or not, but what happened today doesn't necessarily mean he was full of crap).
 
Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal · 27m27 minutes ago
@randywatts7 sounds like a Freudian slip by AD from Texas. Expansion is on and Big 10 & 12 have ACC in cross hairs.〽️

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal · 23m23 minutes ago
The Dam is about to break on Expansion. The musical chairs have begun. Giddy up and grab your chair before its to late. 〽️

Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 · 20m20 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal Why did he say Big Ten? HMMMMMMMMMM......

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal · 19m19 minutes ago
@NathanBrice3000 Freudian slip

Nathan Brice‏@NathanBrice3000
@Bluevodreal Does he know something?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal · 18m18 minutes ago
@NathanBrice3000 yes and it will be very hard now for things not to leak. To many moving parts for it to stay quiet.
 
*sigh*... well I guess it's time to hope for bluevod's opium dreams to materialize.
 
Well, it's nice to see Flug take over for me as most hated for a bit.

Bluevod makes Dude seem sane - and the Dude went through why he likes Jerry Faldwell a few days ago.
 
Jake Trotter ‏@Jake_Trotter · 4h4 hours ago
Totally agree. Expansion debate alive/well. But w/ network off table, could change way Big 12 views candidates

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@Jake_Trotter @RedDirtSport @kbohls Quality of football program surpasses TV market in importance.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV
@caingle @JonSolomonCBS @GottliebShow Market place is language used so as to not blame Texas.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@caingle @JonSolomonCBS @GottliebShow for ESPN the math is simple LHN 20M at $.01 < B12N 50M at $0.50.
 
Bluevod makes Dude seem sane - and the Dude went through why he likes Jerry Faldwell a few days ago.[/QUOTE]
Whale your healthy skepticism has long ago crossed the boarder into unhealthy cynicism.
The difference is the complete lack of hope of any kind and
junglehusky said:

Have to give him a little credit for not trying to change his tune when his source was wrong, and not trying to back out of the heat. Unlike the Dude who changes direction like with a water diviner.
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To be honest he was pretty much spot on in the evaluation . His mistake ( or his sources ) was to assume expansion was a fait accompli.
That was a logical conclusion based on long term B12 stability.
Some Presidents in all likelihood went to the meeting. Expecting expansion .

Maybe BYU was in the mix ,but their strict religious ideology ,gave them a huge hurdle.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Whale your healthy skepticism has long ago crossed the boarder into unhealthy cynicism.
The difference is the complete lack of hope of any kind and

To be honest he was pretty much spot on in the evaluation . His mistake ( or his sources ) was to assume expansion was a fait accompli.
That was a logical conclusion based on long term B12 stability.
Some Presidents in all likelihood went to the meeting. Expecting expansion .

Maybe BYU was in the mix ,but their strict religious ideology ,gave them a huge hurdle.
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This is incoherent babble. For one, anyone with google could see nobody is getting a new TV network. Secondly - expanding today doesn't not change the calculus for the Big 12 in 2025.

Nobody they can expand with is going anywhere and nobody they can expand with makes it any more likely the league stays together in 2025.

So you can go with a measured analysis of the scenario or you can go with people on Twitter talking out of their arses. I get the Twitter people are saying what you want to hear - but think about that proposition. People in athletic departments are leaking information to people with a few thousand followers on Twitter. Even if they were legitimate people - why would they feed them anything valuable? Why not risk your job over sharing information with someone who posts it on Twitter?

Maybe the.best boneyard move is claiming that 'inside' information that proves incorrect was still 'inside' information. If you claim something is going to happen based
on inside information and it does not happen - by definition this was not inside information. It was BS speculation.
 
Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 41m41 minutes ago
Expansion still in play for badass B12.
Expansion still in play for the bold Big 12, and it could affect the Big Ten

Jake Trotter ‏@Jake_Trotter 5h5 hours ago
Jake Trotter Retweeted Kirk Bohls

Totally agree. Expansion debate alive/well. But w/ network off table, could change way Big 12 views candidates

istopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
@Jake_Trotter @RedDirtSport @kbohls Quality of football program surpasses TV market in importance.

BostonCoug ‏@BostonCoug 5h5 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @flugempire well Chris, looks like you won this round. Flugaur is eating crow.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 33m33 minutes ago
@BostonCoug @flugempire Flugar is a lying idiot.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31m31 minutes ago
LOL.... The Big 12 can hold expansion over the Big Ten & reduce the Big Ten's TV money!!!! LOL!!! Isn't that damn funny.

hristopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 29m29 minutes ago
@micjame @dennisdoddcbs Why stop at 14 and $1 billion. Add 8 and make it $2 billion. Give those members 50% & count the cash.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 28m28 minutes ago
I personally think the Big 12's new found power over the Big 10 is the best thing I heard since..lol it's the best thing Ivd heard! HA HA!



ME: He must be mixing the moonshine with the krokodil this time.
 
whaler11 said:
This is incoherent babble. For one, anyone with google could see nobody is getting a new TV network. Secondly - expanding today doesn't not change the calculus for the Big 12 in 2025.

Nobody they can expand with is going anywhere and nobody they can expand with makes it any more likely the league stays together in 2025.

So you can go with a measured analysis of the scenario or you can go with people on Twitter talking out of their arses. I get the Twitter people are saying what you want to hear - but think about that proposition. People in athletic departments are leaking information to people with a few thousand followers on Twitter. Even if they were legitimate people - why would they feed them anything valuable? Why not risk your job over sharing information with someone who posts it on Twitter?

Maybe the.best boneyard move is claiming that 'inside' information that proves incorrect was still 'inside' information. If you claim something is going to happen based
on inside information and it does not happen - by definition this was not inside information. It was BS speculation.
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Sorry I disagree ,any skepic knew that Flug couldn't possibly know what many of the conference presidents didn't know. Your the one one making the assumption that we gullible idiots bought into a Twitter prediction. I don't think is was taken as anything other than a rare positive non key tweet swimming in a sea of negative tweets.
To dismiss all information from that source is very short sighted
His prediction was the two best candidates were UConn and UCinn.
I believe it was at a time when UConn wasn't being talked about. So he apparently had some inside knowledge.
If the B12 bothered to evaluate 7 teams as likely candidates , a less knowledgeable person than yourself might take expansion as a logical eventuality. The fact that UConn and UCinn faired very well in that evaluation might lead one engaged in speculation to make that prediction. That is a prediction based on on those facts with the assumption that expansion was a given.
This prediction is at least grounded in some fact.
As a manager if a person provided you with two facts and then proceeded to make an incorrect assumption based in those facts . I wouldn't so much question their sources as their judgement.

To be fair you have been known to speculate on the gullibility of posters that you really have zero idea if they are doing anything other than playing the game. Or are your just engaging in your BY contrayian persona. Either way it's not that important.Speculation drives this board. Contrarianism gives that speculation balance.
PS
That first post was not related to the second and was a classic Sarcasm post. I think you would have enjoyed . I'm now sorry I deleted it as reading the first line takes the post out if context. I'm sorry if I offended you.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Sorry I disagree ,any skepic knew that Flug couldn't possibly know what many of the conference presidents didn't know. Your the one one making the assumption that we gullible idiots bought into a Twitter prediction. I don't think is was taken as anything other than a rare positive non key tweet swimming in a sea of negative tweets.
To dismiss all information from that source is very short sighted
His prediction was the two best candidates were UConn and UCinn.
I believe it was at a time when UConn wasn't being talked about. So he apparently had some inside knowledge.
If the B12 bothered to evaluate 7 teams as likely candidates , a less knowledgeable person than yourself might take expansion as a logical eventuality. The fact that UConn and UCinn faired very well in that evaluation might lead one engaged in speculation to make that prediction. That is a prediction based on on those facts with the assumption that expansion was a given.
This prediction is at least grounded in some fact.
As a manager if a person provided you with two facts and then proceeded to make an incorrect assumption based in those facts . I wouldn't so much question their sources as their judgement.

To be fair you have been known to speculate on the gullibility of posters that you really have zero idea if they are doing anything other than playing the game. Or are your just engaging in your BY contrayian persona. Either way it's not that important.Speculation drives this board. Contrarianism gives that speculation balance.
PS
That first post was not related to the second and was a classic Sarcasm post. I think you would have enjoyed . I'm now sorry I deleted it as reading the first line takes the post out if context. I'm sorry if I offended you.
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You don't need to hire a firm
to tell you that UConn and Cincinnati are the two best G5 schools.

You don't need inside contacts to understand that Texas doesn't want to expand the Big 12.

Do you think I don't know there are posters who just post nonsense they don't actually believe? Thanks for the update.

For the record I'm never a contrarian on purpose - it just turns out group think is wrong a lot.
 

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