Non-Key Tweets

[SubbaBub]

It's schools like WVA that give me hope that UConn is valuable to a P5 league and not just covering costs either.

No one can convince me that if UConn was playing in a P5 league that our revenue wouldn't top WVA and about half of the other P5 schools.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Can someone please explain this concept of a headfake? There are no legitimate outlets reporting any of this stuff. Who are they outfoxing? A few dozen people of Twitter?

These guys are shadow boxing against each other. They each send out headfakes, to screw with the others. The real world continues, oblivious.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
TIFWIW but the rumor is an updated GOR is making the rounds at ACC schools and has 6 signatures. Notre Dames was the first.


Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 7h7 hours ago
Once again a certain"Twitter personality"is showing projected WVU revenues as TV $...when numbers are actually TV $+Conf Payouts (bowls ect)

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 7h7 hours ago
But this is nothing new...many like to mix in the oranges with the tangerines to make the amount of oranges look bigger...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 7h7 hours ago
And when you talk B12 Tier 3 money for a school like WVU...it's $ which comes from a wide variety of "fruit" reality?..not all that great.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 7h7 hours ago
WVU Tier 3 $ includes everything...licensing + Coaches show..+ Live events. Big 10 schools all get licensing deals outside of BTN $

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 7h7 hours ago
It's difficult to break down all of this on Twitter...so "some" choose to use Twitter as a vehicle to intentionally mix up the "fruit".

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
WVU/B12 projected payouts (TV $ Tier 1&2 + Bowls/BB Tourny ect) by end of their contract is roughly 45 mil. Go ahead and add Tier 3$= 52 mil

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
Now compare the 52 mil to B10 projections are just for TV money in 2028 for each school..which does not include Conf payouts + ind Licensing

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
This is why men like Bowlsby, Boren & Gee talk about a growing $ Gap years from now..instead of mixing up the "fruit" like Twitter CON Men.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
Ok...that's enough math on Twitter on a early Wednesday morning. Back to work. National Softball Tourny starts soon...good stuff.

Kevin Brower ‏@kevinbro1898 6h6 hours ago
@flugempire a point that I like to bring up is how many millions do you really need to be competitive? Some point becomes overkill.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
@kevinbro1898 True,but it's not just about competition...it's about growing opportunities your university can provide. Example: # of sports

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
@kevinbro1898 Again, I was just pointing out the truth in the words of Boren, Bowlsby & Gee vs "fruit mixing" by "Twitter personalities"

Manny Walker ‏@Manny_Insanity 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire @kevinbro1898 Exactly. It's about adding growth potential.

Expansion_crush ‏@Expansion_Crush 3h3 hours ago
@flugempire @kevinbro1898 true, B1G schools sponsoring more olympic sports than any other conference. SEC focuses on revenue sports first

Teddy Greenstein‏@TeddyGreenstein
Abundantly clear that ABC/ESPN might not be part of next B1G media rights package

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Teddy Greenstein

https://mobile.twitter.com/TeddyGreenstein/status/732953736444661760… So does NBC team up with FOX for 2nd half of Big Ten package(NASCAR package NBC/FOX)or NBC goes alone on 2nd half?

Seth Paulsen ‏@KUandUofAfan 2h2 hours ago
@flugempire @TeddyGreenstein if it happens this way, then this could be good news for the #BigXII, or more accurately schools not #KU #OU UT

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
BTM noted in Spring of"15"College Sports becoming old"AFL vs NFL"alignment NFL/FOX/PAC/B10/OU vs AFL/ESPN/ACC/SEC/UT Overlaps disappearing

Nick Baumgardner ‏@nickbaumgardner 3h3 hours ago
A lot of B1G ADs have been asked if ESPN/ABC will be left out of the next TV deal. No one's said that's impossible.

Brian HamiltonVerified account‏@BrianHamiltonSI
Northwestern AD Jim Phillips on ABC/ESPN's part in new B1G rights deal:

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Brian Hamilton

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrianHamiltonSI/status/732956973071732736… "...we're at a different place and they're at a different place..." IMO, statement there says plenty..informative.

Brian Hamilton ‏@BrianHamiltonSI 3h3 hours ago
#B1G commissioner Jim Delany on media rights deal: “Obviously we’re prepared. We’re cohesive in our approach."

Teddy Greenstein ‏@TeddyGreenstein 3h3 hours ago
Delany on ESPN: “I wouldn’t talk about walking away from anybody or towards anybody during a negotiation. The market will decide."

Brian Hamilton ‏@BrianHamiltonSI 3h3 hours ago
#B1G commish Jim Delany: “You can be sure that those with great, great content will always, relatively speaking, be treated very well."

Nick BaumgardnerVerified account‏@nickbaumgardner
Delany says the Big Ten isn't discussing any expansion right now. Zero.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Nick Baumgardner

https://mobile.twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/732968656464973825… There you go @Bluevodreal & @Genetics56 It's not happening. No talks...no ACC raid.

Teddy Greenstein ‏@TeddyGreenstein 2h2 hours ago
Delany loves his baby, calling @BigTenNetwork “fabulous … creative. Interested in big events, big brands, great production value.”

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
I wonder if Delany will announce the B1G is adding Texas, OU, KU, UNC, GT, UVA & the Pittsburgh Steelers today.

greg ‏@85bevo 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV Why do you do this? You know the Minnesota guy is going to lash back!

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 24m24 minutes ago
@85bevo @theDudeofWV Why would I lash out? I've been tweeting for 2 years B10 was not expanding until GOR runs out on other P5's Conf.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 23m23 minutes ago
@85bevo @theDudeofWV Just because Dude has zero ability to read...and/or has no memory left from PED use is not my problem to deal with LOL

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 23m23 minutes ago
@85bevo @theDudeofWV This is why doing a podcast with Chris would be fruitless...the guy has no ability to remember who has said what.

 

[huskymedic]

MattSBN 3:07pm via SB Nation
Curious how Colorado State is pitching themselves to the Big 12? We obtained their promotional materials:
Colorado State's pitch to the Big 12 looks like this 12-page brochure

Edit add:

NoEscalators 3:19pm via Twitter for Android
TBH, the longer I go without seeing a UConn pitchbook, the better I feel.

 

[CL82]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
TIFWIW but the rumor is an updated GOR is making the rounds at ACC schools and has 6 signatures. Notre Dames was the first.

If, and that's a 'yuge' if, this is true, do we have to take the Jim from AOL guy seriously? He called this days ago.

 

[husky210]

MattSBN 3:07pm via SB Nation
Curious how Colorado State is pitching themselves to the Big 12? We obtained their promotional materials:
Colorado State's pitch to the Big 12 looks like this 12-page brochure

Edit add:

NoEscalators 3:19pm via Twitter for Android
TBH, the longer I go without seeing a UConn pitchbook, the better I feel.

What comes to mind first is step brothers. PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE

 

[bobbyinaz]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
TIFWIW but the rumor is an updated GOR is making the rounds at ACC schools and has 6 signatures. Notre Dames was the first.

If, and that's a 'yuge' if, this is true, do we have to take the Jim from AOL guy seriously? He called this days ago.

Is making the rounds? So we are back in the 80's with inter office envelopes? So Swofford sent it to ND, who signed it and then forwarded it to who?

I guess when you haven't left your Mother's basement in 20 years you lose track of modern inventions like email

At least tell us that a GOR has been discussed & 6 schools are in favor of signing it instead of this BS.

 

[Husky25]

Request: If virtual novellas are going to be posted, can there at least indicate at the top whether or not UConn is even remotely mentioned within any of the tweets?

We know that the SEC and Big Ten are light years ahead of the PAC 12 and especially the Big XII and ACC. We know that Jim Delany has someone else dab his nose with a gold-woven handkerchief, while Bowsley and Swofford use the shoulder strap of their own overalls and wifebeaters A-shirts.

Don't tell me how the sausage is made. Just plop that heavenly tasting intestine encased lump of fat and by-product in a bun and smother it with saute'ed onions, mustard, and barbecue sauce.

AFAIC, the only tweets that qualify as non-key are the ones that mention UConn. "The rest is just smokefilled coffee-house crap. (Thank you, Lt. Samuel Weinberg, A Few Good Men.)

 

[whaler11]

Is making the rounds? So we are back in the 80's with inter office envelopes? So Swofford sent it to ND, who signed it and then forwarded it to who?

I guess when you haven't left your Mother's basement in 20 years you lose track of modern inventions like email

At least tell us that a GOR has been discussed & 6 schools are in favor of signing it instead of this BS.

It's actually just a get well card for Billy Bud. That's why they can't email it.

 

[jostar1]

Request: If virtual novellas are going to be posted, can there at least indicate at the top whether or not UConn is even remotely mentioned within any of the tweets?

We know that the SEC and Big Ten are light years ahead of the PAC 12 and especially the Big XII and ACC. We know that Jim Delany has someone else dab his nose with a gold-woven handkerchief, while Bowsley and Swofford use the shoulder strap of their own overalls and wifebeaters A-shirts.

Don't tell me how the sausage is made. Just plop that heavenly tasting intestine encased lump of fat and by-product in a bun and smother it with saute'ed onions, mustard, and barbecue sauce.

AFAIC, the only tweets that qualify as non-key are the ones that mention UConn. "The rest is just smokefilled coffee-house crap. (Thank you, Lt. Samuel Weinberg, A Few Good Men.)

The thing is that nothing happens in a vacuum. What is going on with other schools has the potential to affect UConn, whether UConn is mentioned or not. (Not discussing whether there is anything true in the non-key tweets).

 

[Afroabe224]

MattSBN 3:07pm via SB Nation
Curious how Colorado State is pitching themselves to the Big 12? We obtained their promotional materials:
Colorado State's pitch to the Big 12 looks like this 12-page brochure

Edit add:

NoEscalators 3:19pm via Twitter for Android
TBH, the longer I go without seeing a UConn pitchbook, the better I feel.

Great pitch, I'm in! I say the AAC should add Colorado State and drop Tulsa.

 

[NYUConn]

Great pitch, I'm in! I say the AAC should add Colorado State and drop Tulsa.

You're joking but that is 100% a good idea. I am still dumbfounded how Tulsa ended up in The American. They are a small private in a non-major media market.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 21m21 minutes ago
Ok so getting more info on the new ACC GOR

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 20m20 minutes ago
ACCN is going to be launched officially within a year.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 19m19 minutes ago
Notre Dame signed first. Followed by all the old BIgEast schools with the exception of Miami

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 19m19 minutes ago
Schools have until 7-1-16 to sign

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 19m19 minutes ago
But some ACC schools not happy with having to pay so much up front for ACCN with no promise of large returns.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 18m18 minutes ago
New GOR will be as rock solid as B12,B10,Pac12. No backdoor like in current. Will run length of ESPN contract.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 17m17 minutes ago
Again TIFWIW it's all rumor coming from my old BigEast source-who's in AAC now but stays in touch with old BE schools in ACC.

James Stewart ‏@BoiseEnginerd 17m17 minutes ago
@MH ver3 so BIG10 expansion is dead?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 17m17 minutes ago
@BoiseEnginerd if all those signatures hit that GOR by July 1st then yes. For now anyway.

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 17m17 minutes ago
@MH ver3 Hence the back peddle by Boren. It's about to get real one way or another. Have to think there's a real split in the conference

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 16m16 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell indeed. Boren was hoping for FSU and Clemson. Again.

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 15m15 minutes ago
@MH ver3 of course downside is this points the B10 towards us. Not a positive proposition.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 14m14 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell our GOR is perfectly rock solid as well.

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 11m11 minutes ago
@MH ver3 I agree but I simply wanted some post GOR stability. Network and expansion with FSU Clemson secures that. Nothing else does

 

[whaler11]

You're joking but that is 100% a good idea. I am still dumbfounded how Tulsa ended up in The American. They are a small private in a non-major media market.

Why would Colorado State cost themselves money to play in the AAC?

 

[NYUConn]

Why would Colorado State cost themselves money to play in the AAC?

Not sure how you're getting that. American has a more lucrative TV deal, more successful programs - aka more NCAA championship revenue - and on the whole top to bottom is a more competitive league in football and mens bball.

 

[whaler11]

Not sure how you're getting that. American has a more lucrative TV deal, more successful programs - aka more NCAA championship revenue - and on the whole top to bottom is a more competitive league in football and mens bball.

The deals are just about identical and they would spend the difference flying across the country playing every road game in a different time zone.

They would walk away from natural rivals who make geographic sense. You've got to be able to recruit - hey come here - you like flights to Phili and Greenville?

Today the football league is better - but recently it wasn't. It's not like that's a permanent outcome.

 

[whaler11]

Not sure how you're getting that. American has a more lucrative TV deal, more successful programs - aka more NCAA championship revenue - and on the whole top to bottom is a more competitive league in football and mens bball.

You'll get some likes - but CSU got 2.2 million in TV money in 2014-2015. So where is the big difference?

Mountain West distributed $46 million and Boise State took home the most at $9.3 million.

 

[Fishy]

The Mountain West has at least three programs that were offered invites to the American and declined them.

There's no chance Colorado State would entertain an offer from the American.

Tulsa is here because no one else wanted to say yes.

 

[NYUConn]

The deals are just about identical and they would spend the difference flying across the country playing every road game in a different time zone.

They would walk away from natural rivals who make geographic sense. You've got to be able to recruit - hey come here - you like flights to Phili and Greenville?

Today the football league is better - but recently it wasn't. It's not like that's a permanent outcome.

Ignoring that the American's TV deal spread out over ESPN and CBS is over $1 million per year better than the Mountain West Conference, have you actually looked at our conference footprint recently?

The distance from Fort Collins to Boise and Vegas is about the same as it is to Dallas and the distance from FC to REno is about the same as it is to Houston.

And if you wanna talk recruiting, you think Colorado State may be interested in playing twice a year in Texas as opposed to zero times now? Not to mention giving them access to Ohio, PA and FL?

 

[NYUConn]

You'll get some likes - but CSU got 2.2 million in TV money in 2014-2015. So where is the big difference?

Mountain West distributed $46 million and Boise State took home the most at $9.3 million.

So you're allowed to cherry pick one year as evidence of a trend, but I'm not when referring to n the field performance?

You neglected to mention that 2014-15 was the year Boise won the Fiesta bowl over Arizona, which increased overall payout. The fact is that the annual contract the American enjoys between ESPN/CBS is work more than the MWC's.

 

[whaler11]

So you're allowed to cherry pick one year as evidence of a trend, but I'm not when referring to n the field performance?

You neglected to mention that 2014-15 was the year Boise won the Fiesta bowl over Arizona, which increased overall payout. The fact is that the annual contract the American enjoys between ESPN/CBS is work more than the MWC's.

The 2.2 million in TV money was 1.64 in ESPN and CBs plus the bonus from ESPN appearances. It doesn't include the bowl money.

Like I said the deal is marginally more in the AAC - but it's peanuts more. They would spend it 4 times over and put themselves in a worse position in every other way.

It makes no sense for them. They wouldn't think about it for two seconds.

There is some actual upside in the MWC deal - if you are good and ESPN picks more of your games you get more money. A deal that exists to keep the MWC teams from going to the Big East.... you might remember that it worked.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Movietime Blues
‏@Movietime_Blues
Big Ten Conference revenues rise 33% in one year Big Ten Conference revenues rise 33% in one year @bluevodreal @mhver3 @flugempire

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 43m43 minutes ago
@Movietime_Blues @MHver3 @flugempire Rev increase big part adding NY and some DC market that is why expansion is on...〽️

jessicalarson ‏@sooner2016 35m35 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal @Movietime_Blues @MHver3 @flugempire Yep, that is why the B1G will expand soon. TV deal needs to get done first.

Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 34m34 minutes ago
@sooner2016 Notre Dame appears to be the key.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 4m4 minutes ago
Report today in finance on bundles said 56% of people would Not pay for ESPN channels and want skinny bundles or cut cord all together. Ouch



MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
Schools have until 7-1-16 to sign

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 Hence the back peddle by Boren. It's about to get real one way or another. Have to think there's a real split in the conference

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@geoffmitchell indeed. Boren was hoping for FSU and Clemson. Again.

Brandon Bartlett ‏@BBartlett819 31m31 minutes ago
@MH ver3 @geoffmitchell you think those two sign it with having to pay upfront and already the long delay

Geoffrey Mitchell ‏@geoffmitchell 26m26 minutes ago
@BBartlett819 @MH ver3 no clue

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 25m25 minutes ago
@geoffmitchell @BBartlett819 that's the million dollar question.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
Again TIFWIW it's all rumor coming from my old BigEast source-who's in AAC now but stays in touch with old BE schools in ACC.

Starfox207 ‏@Starfox207 53m53 minutes ago
@MH ver3 How is AAC poised to be now?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 46m46 minutes ago
@Starfox207 they've made no headway with MWC schools and their options if Uconn and Cincy leave are not great

 

[Ldandy]

These guys are shadow boxing against each other. They each send out headfakes, to screw with the others. The real world continues, oblivious.

If these guys were shadow boxing I'd put my money on the shadow.

 

[BoatShow]

A group of candidates sure to have Big12 fans talking!

Colorado St? Didn't they just leave the conference?

Was East Florida not available?

What's better? The 3rd best athletic program in Tennessee or 6th best in Texas?

Bring 'em young? My uncle got put away for that.

 

[BoatShow]

The Mountain West has at least three programs that were offered invites to the American and declined them.

There's no chance Colorado State would entertain an offer from the American.

Tulsa is here because no one else wanted to say yes.

Could say the same about Memphis and Houston but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're god's gift (and not the St John's forward). Memphis likes to think they were a Big East team. After years of begging, 0 dollars from Fed Ex, 6 schools leaving, 3 schools saying no, they were finally invited and still never had a patch on a uniform.