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[whaler11]

ESPN News is a valuable channel for ESPN. It generates ~$180 million of revenues for ESPN for very little production cost. They aren't giving that up for an ACC Network.

I didn't say they would. But if they wanted an ACC network - it would in theory generate more revenue than ESPNNews does and wouldn't require a $200 million dollar start up cost.

People seem to think the Big 10 and SEC are ahead because they have networks. It's the opposite reason - they have networks because they have the fan bases and interest to sustain them.

A Big 12 network would be a net negative for a lot of schools in that league. They can sell their tier 3 rights on their own for more than the Big 12 network would ever generate.

An ACC network is pointless. The games are sold - unless ESPN is going to pay them more for the games they already own - there isn't any benefit.

If ESPN thought a network was worth doing - they would have done it already.

 

[whaler11]

Well, yes and no.

I think those holding the chips in CRA (texas) are waiting on the outcome of the ACCN and the B1Gtv contract before making the next move. And if either of those conferences take UConn as part of their tv build out, then the B12 is dead man walking. Any combination of removing us from the chess board and/or sealing in FSU and Clemson to the ACC puts the B12 in a very compromised place.

UConn is not that important of a piece. The Big 12 is no more stable with UConn than without them.

UConn to the Big 10 is an absurd concept at this point. It has been ridiculous for years - but it's holding onto a message board fantasy that never existed except in the minds of a handful of message board people who have talked each other into it.

 

[CL82]

UConn is not that important of a piece. The Big 12 is no more stable with UConn than without them.

UConn to the Big 10 is an absurd concept at this point. It has been ridiculous for years - but it's holding onto a message board fantasy that never existed except in the minds of a handful of message board people who have talked each other into it.

 

[NEforceUConn]

UConn is not that important of a piece. The Big 12 is no more stable with UConn than without them.

UConn to the Big 10 is an absurd concept at this point. It has been ridiculous for years - but it's holding onto a message board fantasy that never existed except in the minds of a handful of message board people who have talked each other into it.

69 Mets Keep the Faith, and for you start the Faith

 

[businesslawyer]

People seem to think the Big 10 and SEC are ahead because they have networks. It's the opposite reason - they have networks because they have the fan bases and interest to sustain them.

Incredibly important and correct point, but I'd add one thing. Fan base doesn't change for any school because you expand the conference. But I think everyone believes that it's possible that you can increase national interest by moving a regional conference into other reasons. Plus, monopolization increases profitability, and thus preventing someone else from having a monopoly can increase everyone else's profitability.

 

[whaler11]

69 Mets Keep the Faith, and for you start the Faith

If you want to believe it's viable that's fine. I guess anything can happen.

But to act like the Big 10 is going to put the Big 12 out of business by adding UConn - that's combining two ridiculous concepts...

 

[ElGuapo]

There is a reason the gift shops on Beale Street sell different version of this shirt.

 

[Exit 4]

If you want to believe it's viable that's fine. I guess anything can happen.

But to act like the Big 10 is going to put the Big 12 out of business by adding UConn - that's combining two ridiculous concepts...

UConn to the B1G won't put the B12 out of business, but it will make it much more difficult to develop a larger platform and presumably more revenue in future tv/media rights. We're the best chip left if you can get over the distance issue. There is no other low hanging fruit but for Boise State, Cincy, BYI, Memphis, USF and UC, all of which have real limitations when you look at all the measurements and particularly with respect to adding to the tv platform today (Florida has great long term projections).

Furthermore, an ACCtv deal which seals in Clemson and FSU would leave the B12 with only weak aforementioned cards to play.

Yes, the B12 will survive, but the growing revenue gap will create paranoia (permanent instability) and some real disadvantages.

I think Texas will make the B12 wait until the ACCtv is decided. I'm hanging my hat on the carwash pipedream for a ticket out of here in June. Someone makes a move - but I no longer think it will be the B12.

 

[whaler11]

UConn to the B1G won't put the B12 out of business, but it will make it much more difficult to develop a larger platform and presumably more revenue in future tv/media rights. We're the best chip left if you can get over the distance issue. There is no other low hanging fruit but for Boise State, Cincy, BYI, Memphis, USF and UC, all of which have real limitations when you look at all the measurements and particularly with respect to adding to the tv platform today (Florida has great long term projections).

Furthermore, an ACCtv deal which seals in Clemson and FSU would leave the B12 with only weak aforementioned cards to play.

Yes, the B12 will survive, but the growing revenue gap will create paranoia (permanent instability) and some real disadvantages.

I think Texas will make the B12 wait until the ACCtv is decided. I'm hanging my hat on the carwash pipedream for a ticket out of here in June. Someone makes a move - but I no longer think it will be the B12.

UConn is by far and away the best G5 school/program..

A Big 12 network is not viable with their 10 current teams and any combination/quantity of current G5 schools.

There is no ACC network deal coming that pays any additional money - but nobody is signing up for the Big 12.

Texas is going to make the Big 12 wait until the GOR runs out. When that approaches they will survey the landscape and decide what to do. They have no reason to give up the LHN - and they know Oklahoma is crying wolf. The Sooners have nowhere to go - this is why they make so much noise and this is why Boren keeps walking things back.

BTW - the carwash is completely made up. Sorry to ruin it for you.

 

[pj]

BTW - the carwash is completely made up. Sorry to ruin it for you.

I bet on weekends you tell little kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist.

 

[Exit 4]

BTW - the carwash is completely made up. Sorry to ruin it for you.

We'll see in July. I have faith. Without it, I find little reason to be here on the board.

 

[sportsart]

UConn is by far and away the best G5 school/program..

A Big 12 network is not viable with their 10 current teams and any combination/quantity of current G5 schools.

There is no ACC network deal coming that pays any additional money - but nobody is signing up for the Big 12.

Texas is going to make the Big 12 wait until the GOR runs out. When that approaches they will survey the landscape and decide what to do. They have no reason to give up the LHN - and they know Oklahoma is crying wolf. The Sooners have nowhere to go - this is why they make so much noise and this is why Boren keeps walking things back.

BTW - the carwash is completely made up. Sorry to ruin it for you.

So if I am reading you correctly, you are saying there will be no ACCn or Big 12 network (because no G5 school would make it worth their while). You are also saying that Oklahoma has no where to go. Texas won't give in and is waiting for the GoR to run out. UConn will not be going to the B1G and finally the car wash is all a hoax.

The odds are the majority of your predictions will be correct. But there is a decent chance that at least one of them will be wrong and that UConn may just benefit from your incorrect prediction.

So as we hold out hope and try and entertain ourselves at a place that keeps us from even thinking the AAC is our final resting place. Thanks for being in mid season form with your know-it-all responses. You are just one cheery mother f'. e'r

 

[whaler11]

So if I am reading you correctly, you are saying there will be no ACCn or Big 12 network (because no G5 school would make it worth their while). You are also saying that Oklahoma has no where to go. Texas won't give in and is waiting for the GoR to run out. UConn will not be going to the B1G and finally the car wash is all a hoax.

The odds are the majority of your predictions will be correct. But there is a decent chance that at least one of them will be wrong and that UConn may just benefit from your incorrect prediction.

So as we hold out hope and try and entertain ourselves at a place that keeps us from even thinking the AAC is our final resting place. Thanks for being in mid season form with your know-it-all responses. You are just one cheery mother f'. e'r

I've said about 30 times I think UConn will end up in the ACC.

Ignoring that I anger you - I'm right a lot of the time. Maybe that is why you are so upset?

Do you or other people on this board ever consider the decision trees for the other institutions that are in play?

Why would Texas walk away from the LHN?

Who is going to invite Oklahoma? How do they walk away politically from Oklahoma State?

What media partner is going to invest in a Big 12 or ACC network? What cable company would pay for it?

UConn to the Big 10 is just absurd - if you don't get the math on that one it's not worth talking about.

Last and certainly not least - do you really think there is a Wake Forest insider that just happens to wash his car at the same time as a poster every other week? And every time they wash their cars he drops hints but doesn't really go on the record? And those hints over the last few months have pointed in about 3 different directions? I mean I find you annoying at times - but I never considered you stupid enough to believe the car wash nonsense. That's just someone having 'fun' and laughing at the reaction to his posts.

The fact he picked Wake Forest would be a good hint...

 

[whaler11]

I bet on weekends you tell little kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist.

Nah - Santa Claus is way more realistic than the Wake Forest Car Wash Insider.

 

[noeynox]

Nah - Santa Claus is way more realistic than the Wake Forest Car Wash Insider.

The car wash posts were funny at first, now they're just annoying.

I don't know if uconn is going to be fine. Soon, with no p5 tv money, they're going to have some very tough choices on athletics.

 

[sportsart]

[QUOTE="whaler11, post: 1694115, member: 676"
I'm right a lot of the time. [/QUOTE]

Angry no...saddened that someone has such an attitude like this.

Oh...you didn't need to reaffirm everything again. You've made you thoughts very clear. Sad and clear.

 

[whaler11]

The car wash posts were funny at first, now they're just annoying.

I don't know if uconn is going to be fine. Soon, with no p5 tv money, they're going to have some very tough choices on athletics.

It's incredible that people believe the posts. I'd say it would make an interesting study - but pretty much you could just google Pavlov.

 

[whaler11]

[QUOTE="whaler11, post: 1694115, member: 676"
I'm right a lot of the time.

Angry no...saddened that someone has such an attitude like this.

Oh...you didn't need to reaffirm everything again. You've made you thoughts very clear. Sad and clear.[/QUOTE]

You are saddened that when someone challenges me I point out I'm right a lot of the time?

I'm saddened that adults fall victim to internet scams like the car wash insider. It's pathetic watching people glom onto nonsense.

 

[Exit 4]

It's incredible that people believe the posts. I'd say it would make an interesting study - but pretty much you could just google Pavlov.

Because its fun. There is no reason to hang on here if you can't have a little fun. And so after four years of being Debbie Downer, I'm trying a new approach. Maybe something will shake loose. UConn is dead meat otherwise. The state is too small to keep this sports program alive a full decade in the woods.

 

[CougarRed]

UConn is by far and away the best G5 school/program..

UConn is the best basketball program in the G5. No doubt.

And it has excellent academic credentials, but not nearly the best in G5. See Rice and other private schools. And your $436M endowment would be the smallest in P5. There are at least a dozen G5 schools with larger endowments.

In football, which is what drives realignment, UConn is not even close to the best G5 school/program. Zero Top 25 finishes. Off campus stadium.

UConn has significant market potential for certain P5 leagues. But then again, Connecticut is one of the bottom 10 states in population growth. And the population of Connecticut is not all that large to begin with.

If you add it up, UConn is a potentially attractive candidate for several P5 leagues. But "by far and away the best G5 school/program"??

Puh-leeeeze.

 

[whaler11]

Because its fun. There is no reason to hang on here if you can't have a little fun. And so after four years of being Debbie Downer, I'm trying a new approach. Maybe something will shake loose. UConn is dead meat otherwise. The state is too small to keep this sports program alive a full decade in the woods.

So full circle - it's become hard to tell what posts are serious.

 

[whaler11]

UConn is the best basketball program in the G5. No doubt.

And it has excellent academic credentials, but not nearly the best in G5. See Rice and other private schools. And your $436M endowment would be the smallest in P5. There are at least a dozen G5 schools with larger endowments.

In football, which is what drives realignment, UConn is not even close to the best G5 school/program. Zero Top 25 finishes. Off campus stadium.

UConn has significant market potential for certain P5 leagues. But then again, Connecticut is one of the bottom 10 states in population growth. And the population of Connecticut is not all that large to begin with.

If you add it up, UConn is a potentially attractive candidate for several P5 leagues. But "by far and away the best G5 school/program"??

Puh-leeeeze.

Athletically and academically combined.

Who cares where the games are played in relation to campus - and what the hell does the school's endowment have to do with how many games they win?

Bringing up Rice means you are a perfect fit for the nonsense that gets posted on this board. That's about the level of stupidity that passes for insightful.

 

[mavblues]

UConn is by far and away the best G5 school/program..

A Big 12 network is not viable with their 10 current teams and any combination/quantity of current G5 schools.

There is no ACC network deal coming that pays any additional money - but nobody is signing up for the Big 12.

Texas is going to make the Big 12 wait until the GOR runs out. When that approaches they will survey the landscape and decide what to do. They have no reason to give up the LHN - and they know Oklahoma is crying wolf. The Sooners have nowhere to go - this is why they make so much noise and this is why Boren keeps walking things back.

BTW - the carwash is completely made up. Sorry to ruin it for you.

You've made your opinion clear to us over and over and over again.

Many of us disagree with you and choose to believe that UConn will land somewhere. We're simply too valuable a brand (and market) to leave out.

Putting aside the argument as to who will ultimately be correct, this is a UConn conference realignment board. Since you vehemently believe that UConn is screwed and isn't going anywhere anytime soon, why do you bother to read this board?

More importantly, why do you continue to post?

On the CBS board, people delight in posting how much UConn sucks. Guess what? I don't go there anymore. If you don't want to read theories (however crazy) about possible landing spots for UConn in conference realignment, why do you read this board? Virtually every other CR board is full of posters stating that UConn has no chance. Why not go to one of them and converse with some like minded people? You can all congratulate yourselves every day that you're correct and have a circle jerk.

BTW, the Whalers aren't coming back, so how about you join the 21st century and change your screen name. (Seriously, it's been 19 years already.) As a comparison, UConn has been stuck in conference realignment hell for 6 years and you've already given up hope on them.

 

[whaler11]

You've made your opinion clear to us over and over and over again.

Many of us disagree with you and choose to believe that UConn will land somewhere. We're simply too valuable a brand (and market) to leave out.

Putting aside the argument as to who will ultimately be correct, this is a UConn conference realignment board. Since you vehemently believe that UConn is screwed and isn't going anywhere anytime soon, why do you bother to read this board?

More importantly, why do you continue to post?

On the CBS board, people delight in posting how much UConn sucks. Guess what? I don't go there anymore. If you don't want to read theories (however crazy) about possible landing spots for UConn in conference realignment, why do you read this board? Virtually every other CR board is full of posters stating that UConn has no chance. Why not go to one of them and converse with some like minded people? You can all congratulate yourselves every day that you're correct and have a circle jerk.

BTW, the Whalers aren't coming back, so how about you join the 21st century and change your screen name. (Seriously, it's been 19 years already.) As a comparison, UConn has been stuck in conference realignment hell for 6 years and you've already given up hope on them.

I guess you missed the 31st time I posted that I think UConn will end up in the ACC?

Not sure why my username matters but I don't think the NHL is ever coming back to Hartford.

I guess you can attack me instead of answering the questions I asked. Based on my game attendance the last 30+ years I don't really see why I need to make excuses for posting.

I continue to read and post for legitimate information - that sometimes I like to mock stupidity I guess is a character flaw.

I thought you were someone that would want to engage and share in intelligent conversation? Do you prefer no dissention to whatever crazy theory is being floated that doesn't meet any smell test?

 

[noeynox]

UConn is the best basketball program in the G5. No doubt.

And it has excellent academic credentials, but not nearly the best in G5. See Rice and other private schools. And your $436M endowment would be the smallest in P5. There are at least a dozen G5 schools with larger endowments.

In football, which is what drives realignment, UConn is not even close to the best G5 school/program. Zero Top 25 finishes. Off campus stadium.

UConn has significant market potential for certain P5 leagues. But then again, Connecticut is one of the bottom 10 states in population growth. And the population of Connecticut is not all that large to begin with.

If you add it up, UConn is a potentially attractive candidate for several P5 leagues. But "by far and away the best G5 school/program"??

Puh-leeeeze.

Our athletic budget and revenue dwarves the rest of you scrubs.