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@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
Quick points about B12 delaying decision until late summer(I am very busy today so I hope to go more in depth later)

@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
The real reason is not great news for UC fans

@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
Everything they are saying to the media about a delay is crap

@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
They believe they have a legit shot at FSU/Clemson/Miami and want to wait until ACC/ESPN hammer out new GOR.

@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
Those three with Uconn could see an addition of 4 teams and make the B12N an instant success

@MH ver3 15m15 minutes ago
My B12 source texted me about 15 minutes ago and I hope to speak with him tonight and will maybe have more
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 56m56 minutes ago
I'm going to turn off the protect my tweets feature for one tweet... the next one... please spread the news.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 55m55 minutes ago
A very reliable source tells me that that the Big 12 would be far better off without David Boren in charge at Oklahoma. 1/2

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 54m54 minutes ago
UT has been less than thrilled with Boren's heavy-handed attempts to guide the conference. 2/2

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 34m34 minutes ago
Please be careful who you listen to about the Big 12.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 32m32 minutes ago
I know that fans of UCONN, Cincy, BYU and the others want to hear good news. But please be careful.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 32m32 minutes ago
Good news is still possible. But there never has been any locks on who gets added because the network was an issue that could kill it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 28m28 minutes ago
@capearson34 I think Texas wants Boren to genuflect and kiss the hoof of Bevo and ask nicely.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 25m25 minutes ago
UC, UCONN, BYU, USF, UCF, Memphis & UH fans... believe nothing anyone tells you about expansion until the network issue is resolved.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 24m24 minutes ago
The only true thing about B12 expansion is this: No network means no expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 15m15 minutes ago
But one thing is certain. Texas doesn't want Boren to be able to say he made UT give up the LHN. That's why the May deadline comes & goes.
 
I question what mhv is smoking. Fsu, Clemson, Miami to b12 would be great for Cincy and Uconn. Acc would have to replace schools and they might end up with those they are actually close to. I think these guys do not even see the stories right in front of them anymore.
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 13m13 minutes ago
UT's reluctance on B12N has absolutely nothing to do with who gets added. Think about it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 12m12 minutes ago
If the Big 12 was to have any legitimate shot at FSU then they need to accelerate the network rather than delay it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 10m10 minutes ago
The network was always the event that made expansion feasible. The idea that the network would be delayed to wait on FSU is idiotic.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
I can't stress that enough. It's idiotic, foolish & dumb to think the delay is FSU related.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8m8 minutes ago
The absolute best case is that UT is showing OU is boss.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7m7 minutes ago
So forget the very notion of expansion until the network is a go.

Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 6m6 minutes agoIrmo, SC
@theDudeofWV Spot on Chris, there is zero reason to expand unless the BIG12N is a go. No reason to split the current PIE more ways

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 51s52 seconds ago
@Mountaineer_Ste more importantly - the network issue needed to be resolved before expansion was even on the table.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV now1 minute ago
People who claim to have insight after the news breaks but have no clue the news is breaking don't have real sources.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
[I believe that once Boren's fake deadline comes and goes that UT will be far more receptive.]

David Pennock ‏@shepherdstown1 31m31 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV Some are saying the delay is due to a chance to get the ACC connection in Fla and SC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 25m25 minutes ago
@shepherdstown1 Who? Because whoever hasn't a clue.

David Pennock ‏@shepherdstown1 2m2 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV mhver. Due to waiting out ACC/ESPN working out GOR issues.

Steve Lambert ‏@ssteve520 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV could it be that the data coming in from b12 research teams isn't good enough to for texas?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31s32 seconds ago
@shepherdstown1 That's 100% false.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 33s34 seconds ago
@ssteve520 It's not back yet.

Dan Gygax ‏@GygaxIsGod 3m3 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV I thought the LHN contract included a B12N clause??? That the LHN would become part of a B12N.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2m2 minutes ago
@GygaxIsGod No. That was never true.






Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Dude tweets: "A very reliable source tells me that that the Big 12 would be far better off without David Boren in charge at Oklahoma."

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur

https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/710204724696338434… Boren is trying to save WVU's & B12 a**..and this is what Dude of WV tweets today. Biting the hand that feeds you.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 2h2 hours ago
@flugempire old rule was 8 members had to agree to disband. I don't think they changed that when the B12 lost 4 members

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub True..but there is strong belief if implosion consist of only 5 the remains could be brought along in current backfilled B12

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub ...as long as there is assurances of old TV deal remains and P5 status remains. But if not..yes, 8 would need to go.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted

https://mobile.twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/710197950920712192… Well...took him a few minutes...but he did successfully cover all bases with "opinions" & "sources". All angles.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
I don't know why it's so difficult for many in B12 Country outside of Texas to say thank you to Boren for trying to save their Conf/Value?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
It seems that many like "dude of wv" feel a need sooner or later to grovel at the feet of the Longhorns. They all do this?..why? Cultural?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
Boren took the leadership in trying to reform the B12....took the arrows...Dude called him senile. Now they need to blast Boren again?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 1h1 hour ago
Oklahoma Sooner Faithful needed no reminders why they need to bolt in 2025...but they just received another one. Texas Timetable? BS.



MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
The real reason is not great news for UC fans

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 what about UConn?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@gampel_2_msg Uconn market and basketball popularity in that market are crucial to B12N

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 I hope you're right!

C Kel ‏@cjkrvc 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 @gampel_2_msg why don't they just take UCOnn right now?





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Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 6m6 minutes ago
@WVMule @MikeT198

Data will show (according to OU contacts) that B12 expansion in markets willing to pay for B12N digital subscription..

This is a new position. A little hedging by the Flug?
 
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It all comes down to whether Texas is really concerned about Oklahoma fleeing to another conference.
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 23m23 minutes ago
This is the last I'm going go say about this issue. But every fan of BYU & every G5 program should know something about @mhver3 & Flugempire

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 21m21 minutes ago
@mhver3 & @flugempire are catfishing you. They know absolutely nothing about the Big 12, ACC or B1G.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 21m21 minutes ago
I know both are telling you what you want to hear. Both are lying.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 20m20 minutes ago
Please be very skeptical make them explain why & hold them accountable.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 19m19 minutes ago
Both are willingly & knowingly lying to you. It's not an honest mistake. It's deceit.

Matt Nissen ‏@kmnissen 25m25 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV hopefully cooler heads will prevail. I love the big 12. And eventually add teams when right for conference to strengthen it

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@kmnissen Me too. I'm certain Texas is just laying down the law.

Zach Hedges ‏@zthedges 18m18 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @kmnissen This is basically what Flugar is saying. Metrics/data will prove network/expansion is in everyone's best interest.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 10m10 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen He was/is wrong about UC & UCONN being the B12 will add.

Zach Hedges ‏@zthedges 9m9 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @kmnissen In the sense that it hadn't been decided yet?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 52s52 seconds ago
@zthedges @kmnissen So the BHV report isn't going to sway Texas.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4m4 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen Flugar is on record as saying the Big 12 has picked UC & UCONN. 100% false.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 12m12 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen And he claims Texas will rethink its decision to resist both the network & expansion.

Christopher W Cooper ‏@wvlawgeek 2h2 hours ago
Christopher W Cooper Retweeted Christopher Lambert

I have found that to be true in my experience. I use to attempt to bring the news but have relinquished that job!

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@wvlawgeek What bothers me is they get off on lying to good people. I don't understand it.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@zthedges @kmnissen No he is not. He was certain the Big 12 had decided on additions already.

Zach Hedges ‏@zthedges 18m18 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @kmnissen Yes, but he insists not P5 additions.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 10m10 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen He knows nothing about the Big 12. He's just blabbering.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen We even know the five G5 schools being considered.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 10m10 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen We already know a B12N would be profitable. We know it would get distribution.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@zthedges @kmnissen So after the Dodd article comes out Flugar is certain the B12 is waiting on data that will prove exp feasible?

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@zthedges @kmnissen BS. Texas was always guaranteed their $15M a year. This isn't about the data.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@zthedges @kmnissen He's wrong about why UT is resisting. He has been wrong about everything.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 17m17 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen And he claims Texas will rethink its decision to resist both the network & expansion.

Zach Hedges ‏@zthedges 16m16 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @kmnissen Isn't that what you're saying? Most likely just asserting power?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen Asserting power has absolutely nothing to do with the BHV report.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen This is 100% about UT power games. The question is does Boren give in & capitulate.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6m6 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen Texas doesn't care about the BHV report or the metrics. Texas gets the same $ from LHN or B12N.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5m5 minutes ago
@zthedges @kmnissen So the BHV report isn't going to sway Texas.

Matt Nissen ‏@kmnissen 3m3 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV Oklahoma needs Texas as Texas needs them in conference nothing more than power trip

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV now1 minute ago
@kmnissen I hope.
 
MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 5h5 hours ago
They believe they have a legit shot at FSU/Clemson/Miami and want to wait until ACC/ESPN hammer out new GOR.

Michael ‏@micjame 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 If they wait until ACC/ESPN hammer out a new GOR, wouldn't that be too late? FSU/Miami/Clem would be locked into new GOR

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1m1 minute ago
@micjame I was in a hurry earlier and that is a little unclear. I meant they want to see what happens there.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 57s58 seconds ago
@micjame thinking another conference may cause mass ACC defections and they will reap as well

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5m5 minutes ago
I do this. I'll do a podcast with both @flugempire & @mh ver3. Let's see how well they can answer my questions.

Mountaineer Steve ‏@Mountaineer_Ste 6m6 minutes agoIrmo, SC
@theDudeofWV @flugempire @MH ver3 This would be a great podcast, could bring in millions of listeners. Looking forward to it

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1m1 minute ago
@Mountaineer_Ste @flugempire @MH ver3 You mean tens of listeners right?

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 7m7 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @flugempire @MH ver3 three enter the gauntlet, who knows how many come out...

King, Jeff ‏@JeffLurking 3m3 minutes ago
@gampel_2_msg @theDudeofWV @flugempire @MH ver3 Let me host it. Seriously... I'm good at moderating. I'll get it going right.

King, Jeff ‏@JeffLurking 3m3 minutes ago
@gampel_2_msg @theDudeofWV @flugempire @MH ver3 can't share my example publicly because 1 participant became NFL agent and can't have it air

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV now2 minutes ago
@JeffLurking @gampel_2_msg @flugempire @MH ver3 Sure. You make it happen. I'll come with both guns of truth loaded.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV now1 minute ago
@JeffLurking @gampel_2_msg @flugempire @MH ver3 You know neither will agree right? But invite them. Let's get this settled.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5m5 minutes ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur

https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/699239997027672064… Read Chris... No one has been picked officially...but OU perception it will be UCONN/UC. Read..comprehend.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3m3 minutes ago
Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur

https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/699239997027672064… Feb 15th. Optimistic on Expansion in OU. B12 needs it to happen. Perception it's UCONN/UC. We stand by this...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 49s50 seconds ago
So no...we have not said UC/UCONN is an official deal..but we are saying it's going to happen. If not...flame away.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 6m6 minutes ago
@flugempire IMO if 2 of KU, OU or UT left, the B12 would either implode or become the new AAC/MWC. Honestly, B12 expansion does that anyway.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 2m2 minutes ago
@flugempire I agree with that scenario provided a GOR is NOT extended past the current deal. OU/KU/UT are not wise to agree to such terms

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 28s29 seconds ago
@NebGradDubDub If B12don't expand and try to grow digital network they will limp into next TV media negotiations...limp. Expand or die

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire now1 minute ago
@NebGradDubDub Yeah...I don't believe OU would extend GOR past current deal either. Will see soon enough

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @JeffLurking @flugempire @MH ver3 if i may interject for moment - is it just possible that different sources give different info

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 3m3 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @JeffLurking @flugempire @MH ver3 thereby not calling for character accusations but more the contacts in question

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg 3m3 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @JeffLurking @flugempire @MH ver3 or more specifically reflecting the perceptions of different parties e.g. WVU, UT, OU, B10?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire now2 minutes ago
@gampel_2_msg @theDudeofWV @JeffLurking @MH ver3 You are correct...I talk certain perceptions from a certain source.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV now6 seconds ago
@gampel_2_msg @JeffLurking @flugempire @MH ver3 No. It's not.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV now54 seconds ago
@gampel_2_msg @JeffLurking @flugempire @MH ver3 Both have a long history of pandering. Of going with the known & pretending insider info.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3m3 minutes ago
@JeffLurking @gampel_2_msg @flugempire @MH ver3 I want accountability. That's all. I don't care if anyone listens.


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MH3 ‏@MH3 · 5h5 hours ago
They believe they have a legit shot at FSU/Clemson/Miami and want to wait until ACC/ESPN hammer out new GOR.

Michael ‏@micjame · 4h4 hours ago
@MH3 If they wait until ACC/ESPN hammer out a new GOR, wouldn't that be too late? FSU/Miami/Clem would be locked into new GOR

MH3 ‏@MH3 · 32m32 minutes ago
@micjame thinking another conference may cause mass ACC defections and they will reap as well

Storrs South ‏@gampel_2_msg · 24m24 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @JeffLurking @flugempire @MH3 if i may interject for moment - is it just possible that different sources give different info

MH3‏@MH3
@JeffLurking @gampel_2_msg please stop tagging me in posts associated with that psycho. Not Fluge-He's cool.
 
There are 50 tweets this afternoon of ACC Apocalypse. It is impossible to believe anything they tweet.
 
Not a tweet, but found this on a WVM Scout board http://www.scout.com/college/west-v...14636168-bohls-big-12-action-could-be-delayed


Mesaclone

Re: Bohls: Big 12 action could be delayed
Yesterday at 6:55 PMLast edited Yesterday at 6:56 PMby Mesaclone
As always, the truth here is somewhere in between Buck and Winchester.

1. It is true that early info on the G5 teams being looked at is underwhelming outside of Uconn (surprisingly)

2. It is also true that UT is slow walking things a bit on LHN transition, but this is fairly normal negotiating process involving new leadership and a complex plan for shifting to a conference network. UT is sure to gain a few more concessions by going slow, but ultimately the LHN is almost certain to morph into a Big 12 network with some aspects of the LHN being retained (for example, for viewers within the state of Texas it may still appear as the LHN in partnership with the Big 12). Yes, its complicated.

3. There is some "positive" communication with certain schools in the ACC...more than just 2 schools FYI.

4. Yes, there is a sense that it is wise to see what the B1G does with its new contract, and to see if it will make any moves towards ACC teams.

5. OU is playing good cop right now in a lot of ways, and the northern schools are quietly supportive...OU is NOT going to walk away from the conference, and IS willing to be patient in seeing what the B1G will do vis-a-vis the ACC. This does not mean OU has unlimited patience, but Boren is not unappreciative of the potential for adding ACC teams if possible...what he will not be flexible on is the morphing of the LHN into a league network. That must and will happen from the OU perspective.

6. Things will be clearer by the end of the summer, but that does not mean any action will have taken place as regards choosing who to expand with...in fact, no action may indicate that ACC teams of interest have become VERY interested. If it becomes clear no ACC teams are coming, the league WILL move forward with at least two G5's...probably UCONN and Cinci but studies are still incomplete on which teams bring the most to the table.

7. If G5's are added, they will not be getting equal shares for an extended period...perhaps as long as 10 years.
 
Is there anyone out there, either reporters or insiders at ACC or Big 10 schools, pushing the ACC Apocalypse stories, or are they coming entirely from West Virginia "insiders"? That story is 10x bigger and effects a lot more schools than the Big12 adding UConn, so if there was a shred of truth to it, someone else would be running with it.
 
What I don't get is people trying to make the case that the B12 would approach ACC teams before UConn just because they are ACC teams. There is not a chance in hell that Wake Forest, for instance, is going to get the opportunity to turn down the B12 before the B12 talks to UConn. No chance.
 
What I don't get is people trying to make the case that the B12 would approach ACC teams before UConn just because they are ACC teams. There is not a chance in hell that Wake Forest, for instance, is going to get the opportunity to turn down the B12 before the B12 talks to UConn. No chance.


No, those people talking about "ACC teams" have this fantasy that Florida State can get out of the ACC grant of rights (and soon) if there is no ACC Network by 7/1/16.

Of course, there is no evidence at all that the GOR is tied to a network or that FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech and/or Miami (the WVU guys hoped for schools) have any interest or ability at all to jump to the Big 12.
 
No, those people talking about "ACC teams" have this fantasy that Florida State can get out of the ACC grant of rights (and soon) if there is no ACC Network by 7/1/16.

Of course, there is no evidence at all that the GOR is tied to a network or that FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech and/or Miami (the WVU guys hoped for schools) have any interest or ability at all to jump to the Big 12.

Indeed. The Big XII wouldn't want Wake (or BC) and knows it can't ever get UNC, UVA. It has its sights set on FSU, Clemson, Miami and maybe NC State.

The crackpot theory of the moment is along these lines. The B1G may raid the ACC despite the GOR and take some combination of UVA, UNC and GT. The SEC would dive in and grab VT and somebody else, maybe NC State. The Big XII could then pick up the leftovers.

Here are my reasons why this is a fantasy:
  1. ACC GOR
  2. UNC, Duke and UVA pride. These are proud schools and prefer to anchor their own conference. Add FSU if you like.
  3. The B1G wants into this region because it is rapidly growing and has money. It's a potential gold mine. UNC and UVA (and the other schools) know this. The ACC has a bad contract in the current landscape, but they have great potential as they are (more if they hadn't screwed up with Pitt and Louisville).
 
The only way for schools like FSU and Texas to join ranks is to create a new conference.

If you're FSU, you may be looking at schools like Wake Forest, BC, etc., and thinking, WTF?!?! But then you look at the B12 and see schools like Iowa St., Kansas St., and even to a certain extent, TCU and Baylor, and you might be thinking, WTF!!
 
How ironic would be if UConn, FSU, Clemson and Miami joined he Big 12 leading to a B1G/SEC feeding frenzy on the best of the rest?
 
The pro for FSU in the ACC: FSU has by far the easiest path to the National Championship. They only have Clemson to deal with and the rest of the league is a warm up for the main act. Move to a Big 12 - you have Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU, Texas, etc as more than potential landmines. SEC- Alabama, etc. The ACC is perfect for them - as long as they money is in the ball park conference wise.

The con for FSU - other than the 100s of athletes who have been arrested(couldn't help myself here) - the rest of the league outside of Clemson football wise has major issues and do not warrant (another pun) a bigger contract.
 
Indeed. The Big XII wouldn't want Wake (or BC) and knows it can't ever get UNC, UVA. It has its sights set on FSU, Clemson, Miami and maybe NC State.

The crackpot theory of the moment is along these lines. The B1G may raid the ACC despite the GOR and take some combination of UVA, UNC and GT. The SEC would dive in and grab VT and somebody else, maybe NC State. The Big XII could then pick up the leftovers.

Here are my reasons why this is a fantasy:
  1. ACC GOR
  2. UNC, Duke and UVA pride. These are proud schools and prefer to anchor their own conference. Add FSU if you like.
  3. The B1G wants into this region because it is rapidly growing and has money. It's a potential gold mine. UNC and UVA (and the other schools) know this. The ACC has a bad contract in the current landscape, but they have great potential as they are (more if they hadn't screwed up with Pitt and Louisville).

The whole thing seems like such utter nonsense, that it becomes impossible to believe anything Dude or MH say. When someone is claiming to have "sources", you can't just believe the stuff you like and ignore the stuff you don't. When they claim their sources are giving them "tips" that contain so many revenge fantasies, why listen to them at all?

Until ANYONE semi credible signs onto the ACC Apocalypse story, we must assume that everything coming out of those two is fiction.
 
The whole thing seems like such utter nonsense, that it becomes impossible to believe anything Dude or MH say. When someone is claiming to have "sources", you can't just believe the stuff you like and ignore the stuff you don't. When they claim their sources are giving them "tips" that contain so many revenge fantasies, why listen to them at all?

Until ANYONE semi credible signs onto the ACC Apocalypse story, we must assume that everything coming out of those two is fiction.
Nelson, you are a knowledgeable guy. It doesn't take a dude from WV to figure out that the ACCs long term sustainability looks bleak. Besides anyone you deem credible will be instructed to keep the impending demise close to their vest. You won't see many articles until after the fact.
 

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