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CL82 said:
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 14m14 minutes ago
@wvlawgeek The only reason to add UCONN is the TV market they bring. It's a big reason but only if a conference network is in play.

Bite me Chris.
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He might. Here is my unscientific comparison of UConn and WVU on expansion metrics. Note the entry toward the end.

Football: WVU
MBB: UConn
WBB: UConn
Hockey: UConn
Soccer: UConn
TV market size: UConn
TV market desireability/affluence: UConn
Academics: UConn
Black Lung: WVU
Biters: WVU
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Weren't you saying a friend in an AD the other day said UConn is out?
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Yes, because it was thought that BYU and Cincy would be in, but BYU (as they have in the past) refuses to budge with the Big 12 to play on Sundays. Thus, the word is that UConn should be in. Again, he's not in a P5 department so I'm not sure where they get their info from, but they're certainly more connected than the average fan
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
Yes, because it was thought that BYU and Cincy would be in, but BYU (as they have in the past) refuses to budge with the Big 12 to play on Sundays. Thus, the word is that UConn should be in. Again, he's not in a P5 department so I'm not sure where they get their info from, but they're certainly more connected than the average fan
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D1 schools?
 
uconnphil2016 said:
Yes, because it was thought that BYU and Cincy would be in, but BYU (as they have in the past) refuses to budge with the Big 12 to play on Sundays. Thus, the word is that UConn should be in. Again, he's not in a P5 department so I'm not sure where they get their info from, but they're certainly more connected than the average fan
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Btw, I know my post may have came off like I was busting your balls or calling you out but was actually just curious.
 
So it looks like in the short-term that expansion is dead for the Big 12 but it has left the perception that the league is putting itself at great risk in the mid-term. Still we have done ourselves some good by disseminating the numbers and the value of UConn as an Academic, Athletic and Media Property.
 
Jimdish255 said:
So it looks like in the short-term that expansion is dead for the Big 12 but it has left the perception that the league is putting itself at great risk in the mid-term. Still we have done ourselves some good by disseminating the numbers and the value of UConn as an Academic, Athletic and Media Property.
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Huh? Are the results in from the deregulation vote?
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Yep, compromise reached, no expansion.
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Got to be kidding me lol. Definitely an attempt at rationalization, but I guess we all knew that the Big 12 was a very weird fit for UConn. Let's continue to build the NYC presence, improve academics, keep the football program going in the right track, and see if we can get the Big Ten in a couple of years. I think we'd all prefer the Big Ten anyhow.
 
Knowing that it is coming really doesn't help.

swift-kick-in-the-balls.jpg
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Nah, this isn't the worst case scenario, that would've been they expanded and didn't take us. Now we're just back to where we were before.
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Actually, nothing in our situation has changed. Let's continue to build football in the AAC for a few more years, and dominate this league the next few years in basketball. No reason we can't do both and then head to B1Gger pastures when the time comes.
 
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UConnMike04 said:
Actually, nothing in our situation has changed. Let's continue to build football in the AAC for a few more years, and dominate this league the next few years in basketball. No reason we can't do both and then head to B1Gger pastures when the time comes.
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It would be nice if we could dominate this league in basketball for one year, let alone the next few.
 
UConnMike04 said:
Actually, nothing in our situation has changed. Let's continue to build football in the AAC for a few more years, and dominate this league the next few years in basketball. No reason we can't do both and then head to B1Gger pastures when the time comes.
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Agreed, while this isn't necessarily a positive that the Big 12 opportunity passed, it did not harm us directly, nor the conference. Staying in the AAC minus Cincinnati and Houston would have been an abject disaster.

That said, now that 12 teams aren't necessary for a conference championship, can we boot Tulsa and Tulane?
 
uconnphil2016 said:
Got to be kidding me lol. Definitely an attempt at rationalization, but I guess we all knew that the Big 12 was a very weird fit for UConn. Let's continue to build the NYC presence, improve academics, keep the football program going in the right track, and see if we can get the Big Ten in a couple of years. I think we'd all prefer the Big Ten anyhow.
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I'm actually kind of liking the XII now
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Agreed, while this isn't necessarily a positive that the Big 12 opportunity passed, it did not harm us directly, nor the conference. Staying in the AAC minus Cincinnati and Houston would have been an abject disaster.

That said, now that 12 teams aren't necessary for a conference championship, can we boot Tulsa and Tulane?
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I want to keep Tulane in just for an annual excuse to the wife for a road trip with the boys to NoLa. Better than Tulsa, Houston, Dallas, etc.
 
Just because this legislation passed and the big 12 isn't forced to expand doesn't mean that expansion is off the table. I think that Oklahoma and West Virginia will still try to push for eastern expansion. If not, the league will be picked apart in a few years.
 
RE: CCG Deregulation has passed
Steve H ‏@SoonerSteve1 34m34 minutes ago
@OU_Football it's time to leave the Big12..

I think that instead of expansion, it is now much likelier that the SEC breaks up.

Oklahoma to the SEC.

Not sure what to do with Oklahoma St.

This was all about Texas's TV Network. A redo of the B12 package through expansion would allow leverage for Oklahoma to press against Texas, or be rejected. Now Texas has a good logical argument against Oklahoma. I can't say Oklahoma is unhappy, but in striving for more $$, all it takes for Oklahoma to start stewing again is a championship game fiasco.
 
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upstater said:
RE: CCG Deregulation has passed
Steve H ‏@SoonerSteve1 34m34 minutes ago
@OU_Football it's time to leave the Big12..

I think that instead of expansion, it is now much likelier that the SEC breaks up.

Oklahoma to the SEC.

Not sure what to do with Oklahoma St.

This was all about Texas's TV Network. A redo of the B12 package through expansion would allow leverage for Oklahoma to press against Texas, or be rejected. Now Texas has a good logical argument against Oklahoma. I can't say Oklahoma is unhappy, but in striving for more $$, all it takes for Oklahoma to start stewing again is a championship game fiasco.
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You mean the Big 12 breaks up?
 
I'm not sure I follow the deregulation compromise...the XII wanted to have a CCG with 2 teams that they picked. The ACC supposedly wanted some sort of 3 division deal and then pick the best 2 from the 3 division champions. The B1G wanted to make sure the system demanded 2 divisions and the champion of each played in the CCG...so now the compromise is to have no divisions but let the polls pick the teams for the CCG? Unless the B1G pulled a fast one I don't see that being a compromise they would go for based on what I've read. Maybe they would have been ok with divisions of 5 but no divisions means the XII and the ACC gets what they wanted...to make sure they have the best chance of getting a team in the playoffs. So while the other 3 P5's have to risk having their best 2 teams in 1 division the XII and ACC only risk that the polls somehow screw them? I think I'm not understanding something here. IMO this only makes sense if the B1G plans to go to say 18 schools and doesn't want to basically be 2 conferences. Now they could go to no divisions and do something like having 5 permanent rivals and then rotate the remaining 12 schools 4 per year over 3 years. The best 2 teams in the polls play for the title. I’m just trying to figure out the 180° here. Or again have I misunderstood all along?
 
So I just read http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ncaa-votes-big-12-hold-football-title-game-36275151 posted by bobbyinaz. Now I'm even more confused. They have to play a round robin and they do NOT yet have a set way to pick the teams in the CCG other than it must be the top 2 teams. Looks to me like there was no compromise the XII just won. ignore my post above...and this one too I'm over it now. Unless the expectation is that the XII will be dead soon this makes no sense. The XII now has the advantage they wanted.
 
I think the most interesting part is that the ACC got completely waxed by this. They tried to piggyback on the B12 proposal to get their request through, and instead the B12 won without them. That was a slap in the face.
 
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