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junglehusky said:
UCFs biggest asset is supposed to be the size of its student body and hence future alumni base. But - I wonder if some marketing people have done studies to look at how wide and deep the affiliation is within the UCF student body, being that they are in a state with three other established, big-name CFB brands. When I was at UConn in the 90s there would be a random kid who grew up liking Syracuse or St. John's, (always out-of-staters), maybe one out of a hundred or more. With UCF I imagine there'd be a lot more UF / FSU / Miami affiliation among the student body.
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The issue with the AAC and specifically the fanbases is that few schools are fans number one school. A lot of the schools are after thoughts in theiregards states or even cities. Remember when we played basketball at ECU and their students gave Purvis hell for leaving NC State? Well its because they're actually NC State fans.
 
BoatShow said:
The issue with the AAC and specifically the fanbases is that few schools are fans number one school. A lot of the schools are after thoughts in theiregards states or even cities. Remember when we played basketball at ECU and their students gave Purvis hell for leaving NC State? Well its because they're actually NC State fans.
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Not the case in Connecticut.
 
BoatShow said:
The issue with the AAC and specifically the fanbases is that few schools are fans number one school. A lot of the schools are after thoughts in theiregards states or even cities. Remember when we played basketball at ECU and their students gave Purvis hell for leaving NC State? Well its because they're actually NC State fans.
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The issue with ECU is that it's so far in the middle of nowhere that we couldn't even stream the game on ESPN3 last year without it cutting out every 5 seconds.

ECU games are basically broadcast on a Marconi radio.
 
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago
These Big 12 games on FS1 continue to suck.
1.238M West Virginia vs Oklahoma
847K Kansas State vs Oklahoma State
Paying attention Delany?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago
Purdue vs Michigan State on ESPN 2 had better ratings than OU vs WVU...
Hell UCONN game on Friday night (ESPN 2) had better ratings

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago
Big 12 positioning going into their next TV negotiations couldn't be worse.
Oklahoma will bolt

Ross ‏@Rossjc4 · 5h5 hours ago
@flugempire Was that UCONN games against a BYU team? All this just proves BYU should be in a conference!!

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago
@Rossjc4 BYU vs UCONN on a Friday night on ESPN 2 just beat out a Saturday FSI game of OU vs WVU

Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 · 4h4 hours ago
@flugempire @Rossjc4 Remember that was a late game too, not prime time.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 3h3 hours ago
@mkw_14 @Rossjc4 Yep.
If you drill down on these B12 ratings (which you can't do on Twitter) there numbers are horrible

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 5h5 hours ago
2 weeks ago
408K Maryland vs West Virginia on FS1.
These ratings are horrific.
If B1G does a deal with FOX...better limited on FOX

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
Michigan did a 2.86 mil on FS1 in week 1.
But Delany better limit its exposure on FS1 if new deal involves FOX with a portion of B1G content

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
Add up WVU ratings vs 2 P5 games thus far you get a 1.6 mil. Other WVU games were on Root Beer Float station of some sort.
Non exposure.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 4h4 hours ago
There is interest in WVU FB...no doubt. But FS1 gives them and others in B12 no juice. WVU vs UT in 2014 was barely over 1.3 mil...horrific
 
Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa Oct 7
When the SEC adds two more, it will be schools with well rounded athletic programs. Will they strike first? Some rumblings in Bham today. :)

Lester O'Neal ‏@djbarnett Oct 7
@PromiscuousJawa ugh :( won't be Cincy.

TCBnole ‏@TCBnole Oct 7
@PromiscuousJawa Which two schools are rumored?

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa Oct 7
@TCBnole will be in states that border those already predominantly SEC controlled.

Night Rider ‏@NightRiderLBK Oct 8
.@TCBnole @PromiscuousJawa UNC and Virginia or VT
 
An SEC raid on the ACC is the best of all possible worlds for us. Worst case scenario we'd be first in line for the ACC slot. Best possible scenario the remaining Virginia school becomes our partner to the B1G?
 
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The chances of Virginia going to the SEC are maybe 1% and perhaps 3% for UNC. So you are left with Hokies (can you call them vaginal state on this board?) and NC State. Like UConn, NC State will be around forever for the picking, VT maybe maybe not.

So any SEC rumours talking about contiguous states mean VT and NC State - thus nothing.

Tongue in check maybe the SEC has its eyes on VT and a Texas power house called TCU, I mean Baylor, I mean Houston.
 
NEforceUConn said:
The chances of Virginia going to the SEC are maybe 1% and perhaps 3% for UNC. So you are left with Hokies (can you call them vaginal state on this board?) and NC State. Like UConn, NC State will be around forever for the picking, VT maybe maybe not.

So any SEC rumours talking about contiguous states mean VT and NC State - thus nothing.

Tongue in check maybe the SEC has its eyes on VT and a Texas power house called TCU, I mean Baylor, I mean Houston.
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States that border SEC schools:

N. Carolina - UNC, NCST, Duke
Virginia - UVA, VT
West Virginia - WVU
Ohio - Cinci
Indiana
Illinois
Iowa - ISU
Kansas - Kansas, KSU
Oklahoma - Oklahoma, OSU
New Mexico - NMU
Nebraska

There are your choices.
 
whaler11 said:
The Flug is right about one thing. Putting your games on Fox is death to your viewership.
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FS1 and FS2 will grow over time especially if they get better content. The Michigan/Utah game this year had 2.9 million viewers on FS1. You have to remember, until this year, there never was a reason to watch FS1. Yes, I watched it for the first time this year.

Right now, ESPN is king, but viewers are willing to move around. Remember when NBC was the dominant weeknight network and CBS was the also ran? Today, it is the opposite.
 
UConnJim said:
FS1 and FS2 will grow over time especially if they get better content. The Michigan/Utah game this year had 2.9 million viewers on FS1. You have to remember, until this year, there never was a reason to watch FS1. Yes, I watched it for the first time this year.

Right now, ESPN is king, but viewers are willing to move around. Remember when NBC was the dominant weeknight network and CBS was the also ran? Today, it is the opposite.
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They have shown no interest in moving to Fox. It's a ratings graveyard. There aren't enough high end properties on the market to change that.

But we'll see.
 
whaler11 said:
They have shown no interest in moving to Fox. It's a ratings graveyard. There aren't enough high end properties on the market to change that.

But we'll see.
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Some numbers on a cable dial are more valuable than others. Got it.

Next you will tell me that owning a big box bookstore is a good idea.
 
The only difference between the AAC and the ACC accounting for a total of 26 teams is Florida State and Clemson. I like to state the obvious.
 
FS1 is a ratings graveyard. B12 football, Big East basketball, MLB Playoffs...all net lower ratings than worse games on other networks. If they offer the B1G a gazillion bazillion dollars for a few games a year, that's one thing. But putting all of your eggs in the FS1 basket seems like bad business...even with all of those New Jersey cable boxes.
 
The B1G is where we want to be.
How about Wake 3-nil over BC?
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Dooley said:
FS1 is a ratings graveyard. Putting all of your eggs in the FS1 basket seems like bad business...even with all of those New Jersey cable boxes.
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Things may look bleak at the moment but don't count FS1 out quite yet. Content will ultimately drive ratings. When the NFC moved from CBS to FOX it was the same wringing of hands. But the product forced the fan to find the channel. I didn't know the cable channel number of FS1 until Cowherd moved there. Now I do. And if the B1G moved there exclusively, you don't think fans would migrate? If more top media talent gets poached and moves over, folks will follow..
It reminds me of when fans of IMUS brought ratings to previously moribund, bottom dweller, FOX Business channel. Even though IMUS is now gone, FBN just beat CNBC for a cycle--based on people knowing about its sheer existence.
I wouldn't worry about FS1.They have pretty smart people running things over there.
 
Nostical said:
Things may look bleak at the moment but don't count FS1 out quite yet. Content will ultimately drive ratings. When the NFC moved from CBS to FOX it was the same wringing of hands. But the product forced the fan to find the channel. I didn't know the cable channel number of FS1 until Cowherd moved there. Now I do. And if the B1G moved there exclusively, you don't think fans would migrate? If more top media talent gets poached and moves over, folks will follow..
It reminds me of when fans of IMUS brought ratings to previously moribund, bottom dweller, FOX Business channel. Even though IMUS is now gone, FBN just beat CNBC for a cycle--based on people knowing about its sheer existence.
I wouldn't worry about FS1.They have pretty smart people running things over there.
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I would agree to an extent, they can drive their ratings up, but they'll never approach the level of an ESPN. Perhaps they could match NBC Sports, but without a major pro sport and only second-rate college sports, they'll be constantly running uphill.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
I would agree to an extent, they can drive their ratings up, but they'll never approach the level of an ESPN. Perhaps they could match NBC Sports, but without a major pro sport and only second-rate college sports, they'll be constantly running uphill.
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Whether or not a conference like the B1G would get into bed with DS1 depends on the ingenuity of FS1 and their ability to read the future of the medium, IMO.

Cable is dying and on-demand media is the way to go. If FS1 could set up a service that would allow B1G fans to download their app and stream their schools live games every Saturday regardless of whether or not the games are live on the actually cable channel, I think there is some value their for the conference. That would be a game-changer. Thinking like that is FS1's only hope.

We're still playing by the old rules of cable that are rapidly being destroyed in the age of on-demand media. FS1 will never out-ESPN, ESPN as they exist today. But if they can change the terms in which they are engaging, they have a chance.
 
Nostical said:
Things may look bleak at the moment but don't count FS1 out quite yet. Content will ultimately drive ratings. When the NFC moved from CBS to FOX it was the same wringing of hands. But the product forced the fan to find the channel. I didn't know the cable channel number of FS1 until Cowherd moved there. Now I do. And if the B1G moved there exclusively, you don't think fans would migrate? If more top media talent gets poached and moves over, folks will follow..
It reminds me of when fans of IMUS brought ratings to previously moribund, bottom dweller, FOX Business channel. Even though IMUS is now gone, FBN just beat CNBC for a cycle--based on people knowing about its sheer existence.
I wouldn't worry about FS1.They have pretty smart people running things over there.
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I agree. People laughed when Fox News was started up in 1996, but it only took 6 years for Fox News to become the #1 news channel over CNN. The difference between the two channels right now is content. ESPN locked up most of the good sports content, so FS1's climb up the ratings ladder will be slow and steady and dependent on better content. Which means they will have to overpay for some content.

End of the day, the cable sports model is changing and over time value will be determined by actual demand. The sports TV business model change is positive for UConn as we have fans that want to see the content.
 

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