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whaler11 said:
Here is a thought. UConn makes absolutely no sense for the Big 12. Maybe that is why?
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In theory I agree with you , and have believed and argued against it this since Frank the Tank brought it up 4 years ago.
But from a long range survival strategy UConn is not as outlandish as I first believed
The long range problem for the B12 is its big fish in an extremely small pond status.
Its the best part of Texas,Oklahoma, Kansas,West VA and the small part of Iowa.
The ACC footprint is more significant.
If you seriously wanted to increase the exsporsure of your brand the huge still open Northeast coupled with the LDS national audience would make you a significant player. UConn's major problem is the power brokers of that conference really are not concerned about it as their future is pretty secure.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
In theory I agree with you , and have believed and argued against it this since Frank the Tank brought it up 4 years ago.
But from a long range survival strategy UConn is not as outlandish as I first believed
The long range problem for the B12 is its big fish in an extremely small pond status.
Its the best part of Texas,Oklahoma, Kansas,West VA and the small part of Iowa.
The ACC footprint is more significant.
If you seriously wanted to increase the exsporsure of your brand the huge still open Northeast coupled with the LDS national audience would make you a significant player. UConn's major problem is the power brokers of that conference really are not concerned about it as their future is pretty secure.
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The Big 12 is not operating under any delusion that their conference would ever make a dent in NYC.
 
whaler11 said:
The Big 12 is not operating under any delusion that their conference would ever make a dent in NYC.
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And that is a really stupid way to operate.

NYC is full of transplants from Big 12. It's the biggest and wealthiest city in the USA. For them to just write it off is really foolish.

We've established this is a business. Your conference performance is a product. You deliver that product once a week on Saturdays. Your ultimate goal is to make that product popular, thereby successful. Why in god's name would you shut yourself out of the biggest market in the country?
 
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NYUConn said:
And that is a really stupid way to operate.

NYC is full of transplants from Big 12. It's the biggest and wealthiest city in the USA. For them to just write it off is really foolish.

We've established this is a business. Your conference performance is a product. You deliver that product once a week on Saturdays. Your ultimate goal is to make that product popular, thereby successful. Why in god's name would you shut yourself out of the biggest market in the country?
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Nobody but a few dozen people on this board think that UConn football gets anyone traction in NYC.

Maybe the whole world is wrong and UConn partisans are right but maybe not?
 
whaler11 said:
Nobody but a few dozen people on this board think that UConn football gets anyone traction in NYC.

Maybe the whole world is wrong and UConn partisans are right but maybe not?
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I'm sorry, but there are a lot of UConn fans in NYC already and people actually do care down here on game day. I've seen it with my own eyes. I recently moved over the river in Hoboken and I literally see someone wearing UConn gear every day and there are cars parked on the street with UConn alum plates and stickers. This isn't hyperbole, this is the truth.

All that being said, if I am the Big 12, it's not just about UConn in NYC. It's about taking advantage of UConn's proximity in NYC to get attention for your existing programs too.

You think DeLaney added Rutgers cause he was convinced 8 million people would be tuning into every RU game? Definitely not. He added RU because if half a million people tune into a Rutgers-Purdue game in week 5, that's half a million more eyeballs being exposed to the B1G brand then he had before. That's a millions of kids who may see Michigan's big house on game day and be inspired to apply to the school or become a fan because they tuned into an RU-Michigan game in Ann Arbor.

These conferences - in most cases Louisville notwithstanding - aren't adding their teams necessarily for their success, they are adding them to bring their brand into a new market.

That's what the Big 12 is leaving on the table by not going into the Northeast.
 
whaler11 said:
Nobody but a few dozen people on this board think that UConn football gets anyone traction in NYC.

Maybe the whole world is wrong and UConn partisans are right but maybe not?
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Whaler UCONN is EXTREMELY popular in NYC...I work all over Manhattan and get detailed to other borough's. You see UCONN gear all the time. I have seen the most in Manhattan (including Harlem) and Brooklyn.
 
FDNY99 said:
Whaler UCONN is EXTREMELY popular in NYC...I work all over Manhattan and get detailed to other borough's. You see UCONN gear all the time. I have seen the most in Manhattan (including Harlem) and Brooklyn.
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UConn football is not. The Big 12 is a football league.
 
NYUConn said:
I'm sorry, but there are a lot of UConn fans in NYC already and people actually do care down here on game day. I've seen it with my own eyes. I recently moved over the river in Hoboken and I literally see someone wearing UConn gear every day and there are cars parked on the street with UConn alum plates and stickers. This isn't hyperbole, this is the truth.

All that being said, if I am the Big 12, it's not just about UConn in NYC. It's about taking advantage of UConn's proximity in NYC to get attention for your existing programs too.

You think DeLaney added Rutgers cause he was convinced 8 million people would be tuning into every RU game? Definitely not. He added RU because if half a million people tune into a Rutgers-Purdue game in week 5, that's half a million more eyeballs being exposed to the B1G brand then he had before. That's a millions of kids who may see Michigan's big house on game day and be inspired to apply to the school or become a fan because they tuned into an RU-Michigan game in Ann Arbor.

These conferences - in most cases Louisville notwithstanding - aren't adding their teams necessarily for their success, they are adding them to bring their brand into a new market.

That's what the Big 12 is leaving on the table by not going into the Northeast.
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They added Rutgers for incremental TV carraige fees. That's all.
 
whaler11 said:
UConn football is not. The Big 12 is a football league.
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I'm just telling you what I see with my eyes in terms of team gear being worn...and if you want to talk about which college football team is king in NYC...ND followed by Michigan and PSU/tOSU...
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
That's where I think he's wrong - he's indicating he has information that the B12 isn't interested. If he'd just said he has no reason to believe there's interest, or his belief is it makes no sense, then he'd be fine. Generally, Flug is pretty good about not insinuating he has inside info when it's preposterous to believe he does. That's what makes him marginally more credible than the Dude.
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Well, if you believe he has a Big Ten source, then I don't know why this should be any different. He claims this info comes from his Big Ten source. At least Flug isn't trying to act like he has a whole lot of different 'sources' like a certain other guy we all know.

He says it's from the same guy. It's fair to question whether the Big Ten guy would know whether Big 12 is interested, but Flug isn't acting like he knows a lot of Big 12 people.

If you believed Flug before, then you should believe him now... or at least believe he's telling the truth about hearing that. Whether that person would be in the know on UConn/Big 12 is another matter.
 
whaler11 said:
LOL. UConn to the big 12 makes no sense. Taking passive aggressive shots at me doesn't change that.

There are little factors like geography and culture that matter regardless of what UConn fans think. Warde you suck because UConn was excluded from the Pac 12 and Big 12 expansion!

They are at the mercy of the ACC. Right or wrong that is the situation. It's not really my fault for noticing that prior leadership put them in this position.
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We already have the ACC's answer. The Big 12 is the last P5 conference that is going to expand.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
We already have the ACC's answer. The Big 12 is the last P5 conference that is going to expand.
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No it's not.

The SEC/ACC/Big 10 membership are locked in stone?

You really will twist things into any kind of pretzel to fit your narrative.

Big 12 doesn't take UConn (if it even expands). Warde you suck! Drop Football! Join Big East!
 
FDNY99 said:
I'm just telling you what I see with my eyes in terms of team gear being worn...and if you want to talk about which college football team is king in NYC...ND followed by Michigan and PSU/tOSU...
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How could you believe your eyes over the facts posted on the vineyard?
 
FDNY99 said:
I'm just telling you what I see with my eyes in terms of team gear being worn...and if you want to talk about which college football team is king in NYC...ND followed by Michigan and PSU/tOSU...
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So, perhaps bringing Michigan, PSU/tOSU to the region more often would be a good thing? Hmm...
 
uchusky32 said:
How could you believe your eyes over the facts posted on the vineyard?
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If your eyes are telling you that UConn FOOTBALL is popular in NYC then you need a new eye doctor. It's not even popular in southwestern Connecticut.

Michigan and Ohio State can play anyone they want in NYC. They don't need to add more mouths to feed in their conference to play a team that has zero reach in NYC and plays 2 hours away.
 
whaler11 said:
If your eyes are telling you that UConn FOOTBALL is popular in NYC then you need a new eye doctor. It's not even popular in southwestern Connecticut.

Michigan and Ohio State can play anyone they want in NYC. They don't need to add more mouths to feed in their conference to play a team that has zero reach in NYC and plays 2 hours away.
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Dude, go root for central
 
Wow, grammar police against people typing on an iPhone. So you are (lol) negative and a tool on top of that. You must be joy in real life sunshine
 
wethyhusky said:
Wow, grammar police against people typing on an iPhone. So you are (lol) negative and a tool on top of that. You must be joy in real life sunshine
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I stopped playing pretend when I was little. Did you not follow through on your childish threat? If you are going to take shots at someone at least try and seem intellegent.

You should look up what negative means because it doesn't mean what you think it does.
 
whaler11 said:
If your eyes are telling you that UConn FOOTBALL is popular in NYC then you need a new eye doctor. It's not even popular in southwestern Connecticut.
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7-5, 8-5 not really opening anyone's eyes. 10-3, 11-2 perhaps, need a regional or national buzz.
 
Duncan Idaho said:
7-5, 8-5 not really opening anyone's eyes. 10-3, 11-2 perhaps, need a regional or national buzz.
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NYC is consistently the lowest rated TV market in the country for college football. The term Subway Alumni exists for a reason when Notre Dame is good. Penn State has a bit of a foothold. Michigan is probably third. If Rutgers was really good (ha) there might be some traction.

If you know anything about NYC and sports.. you don't need to wonder if a college football team in the American Athletic Conference registers. It does not and it will not.

College sports are mostly invisible in NYC. Certainly the Big 12 is not going to change that.
 
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