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Limbo Land said:
You have to understand that we are Big 10 or worse case scenario ACC. Why would we be presenting ourselves in such a way that screams look at us Big 10 only to run off to the Big 12. I am confident that we already know where we are headed and when we are headed there. Our President and AD are way to confident and relaxed about where we are without knowing something. We aren't acting like these crazy presidents at Cincy or sugar daddies at Memphis offering their souls to get in. I think because we already know we don't have to....
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I've had this feeling Dr. Herbst and Manuel know when and where they are going as well. However, even if that's true, if the Big 12 is the first conference to come up with an official invite, and if the Big Ten or ACC don't counter with an immediate invite, it would be hard to turn down the invite. Then the Big Ten and ACC can rue the day they ceded control of New York.
 
I think our Pres and AD know exactly where we'd be the best fit, but I don't think anything is etched in stone. We're just trying to look as good we can every day and hoping someone asks us to the prom.
 
CL82 said:
I think our Pres and AD know exactly where we'd be the best fit, but I don't think anything is etched in stone. We're just trying to look as good we can every day and hoping someone asks us to the prom.
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I don't buy it. UConn needs to be aggressive. Cannot sit by the phone waiting for prince charming to call. Must lobby and campaign. Make a sales pitch. Our AD I would hope has learned something from the Louisville AD who basically stole his lunch and ate it. If the B12 expands now and UConn positions itself for an invite, they better take it. Cannot wait a decade for another chance.
 
Limbo Land said:
You have to understand that we are Big 10 or worse case scenario ACC. Why would we be presenting ourselves in such a way that screams look at us Big 10 only to run off to the Big 12. I am confident that we already know where we are headed and when we are headed there. Our President and AD are way to confident and relaxed about where we are without knowing something. We aren't acting like these crazy presidents at Cincy or sugar daddies at Memphis offering their souls to get in. I think because we already know we don't have to....
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It's hard not to have this feeling but good god set the date so I can see a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
If the Big 12 wants to continue as a member of the P-5 with no defections in the future they should go to 14 now. Add Cinci, UCONN, UCF and Memphis. It helps create the East/West division format, adds to hoops interest in big markets, and the football will be fine, us included. Going small here does not inspire confidence in the long term business model.
 
jdb50 said:
If the Big 12 wants to continue as a member of the P-5 with no defections in the future they should go to 14 now. Add Cinci, UCONN, UCF and Memphis. It helps create the East/West division format, adds to hoops interest in big markets, and the football will be fine, us included. Going small here does not inspire confidence in the long term business model.
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I know this sounds crazy, but if you are setting up east/west you take one of Cinn and Memphis, then look to Philadelphia for the 4th team.
 
Stinger92860 said:
I know this sounds crazy, but if you are setting up east/west you take one of Cinn and Memphis, then look to Philadelphia for the 4th team.
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It's not crazy. Temple would add more than Memphis to the B12.
 
Hi-Low said:
The prospect of Cincy & Memphis ahead of UConn in CR is truly stomach curdling if true. From BG12 perspective only thing they may have over UConn are location& idea that football matters to people in Tenn & Ohio but not so much in New England. A false assumption especially if you include TV eyeballs of NYC metro region. Memphis State over UConn....dear God wake me from this nightmare. Can the ACC or BG10 have some mercy and rescue us from the prospect of Temple becoming our biggest rival....1 day of that is 1 day too much let alone 2-3 years.
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Cincy is understandable, but not Memphis. I roll my eyes every time I read or hear somebody mention them like they're a full-fledged football factory when they've been more irrelevant than UConn for over half a decade prior to this season.
 
buddy said:
I don't buy it. UConn needs to be aggressive. Cannot sit by the phone waiting for prince charming to call. Must lobby and campaign. Make a sales pitch. Our AD I would hope has learned something from the Louisville AD who basically stole his lunch and ate it. If the B12 expands now and UConn positions itself for an invite, they better take it. Cannot wait a decade for another chance.
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Buddy, the fact that Uconn is not being mentioned in any of these rumors (even as the overall biggest jewel left in the conference realignment shuffle) should be telling us all something. I doubt anyone is waiting by the phone (outside or Boneyarders), our administration has a plan and we stick to it to get us to the best situation wherever else that might be other then AAC.
 
Between Connecticut, Philly and Orlando-Tampa you add approximately 8 million tv households and 4 of the top 21 tv markets.

Cinn brings the 36th market and another 900k households.

In one bold move you add a huge number of TV sets to your conference.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Between Connecticut, Philly and Orlando-Tampa you add approximately 8 million tv households and 4 of the top 21 tv markets.

Cinn brings the 36th market and another 900k households.

In one bold move you add a huge number of TV sets to your conference.
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Not going to happen. The Big 12 is the least stable of the P5 Leagues, and its members are only concerned about making as much money as possible over the term of their current contract.

The current membership of the league realizes that it is only viable as an entity for as long as Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas stay committed. None of the teams you listed matter to those three.

The rest of the conference's teams are simply building up their individual war chests, and trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to future suiters. This will be done through building up facilities, hiring/retaining name coaches, and winning games in the here and now.

Uconn will never be a member of The Big 12, and that is not a slight at The Huskies. You will eventually be a member of The B1G, ACC, or a new conference that rises from the ashes of The Big 12. The only question is what is the time frame?
 
Ldandy said:
Not going to happen. The Big 12 is the least stable of the P5 Leagues, and its members are only concerned about making as much money as possible over the term of their current contract.

The current membership of the league realizes that it is only viable as an entity for as long as Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas stay committed. None of the teams you listed matter to those three.

The rest of the conference's teams are simply building up their individual war chests, and trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to future suiters. This will be done through building up facilities, hiring/retaining name coaches, and winning games in the here and now.

Uconn will never be a member of The Big 12, and that is not a slight at The Huskies. You will eventually be a member of The B1G, ACC, or a new conference that rises from the ashes of The Big 12. The only question is what is the time frame?
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Agreed with your first paragraph ... but, if the B1G and ACC are not ready yet to move, then the B12 can maximize their individual warchests and build up their attraction to future suitors by (a) finding the most lucrative additions and negotiating cut-rate deals so that everyone benefits; and (b) getting exposure for themselves in the largest national markets, hopefully building up a national following, or at least a regional following in markets held by conferences they might ultimately want to join (B1G, ACC, SEC).

Both of those are do-able with an expansion in which the adds come in as junior partners getting $4-6 mn each. This makes the conference even more unstable, but every entrant and every incumbent can get a small bump in income and exposure. If the conference is already destined to blow up, the instability is acceptable.

If UConn knows the timetable for B1G or ACC expansion is at the end of the current contracts, ca 2025, then UConn would take 10 years at $6 mn per year in the B12 as its best holding pattern.
 
Other than a potential payout from their sugar daddy, Memphis offers NOTHING to any Power conference. TN football recruiting?? Please. You can get as much recruiting exposure by playing Middle Tennessee State. Horrendous academics but the B12 doesn't care about that. Average, at best, basketball. Small market in which they file in at #3 behind Tenn and Vandy/SEC. NOTHING.

But, because we're talking about conference realignment here, I fully expect them to get a B12 invite soon because, oh man, what a kick in the sack that would be to us UCONN fans. Cinci, UCF, Memphis, and ECU to add an eastern wing.
 
Ldandy said:
Not going to happen. The Big 12 is the least stable of the P5 Leagues, and its members are only concerned about making as much money as possible over the term of their current contract.

The current membership of the league realizes that it is only viable as an entity for as long as Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas stay committed. None of the teams you listed matter to those three.

The rest of the conference's teams are simply building up their individual war chests, and trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to future suiters. This will be done through building up facilities, hiring/retaining name coaches, and winning games in the here and now.

Uconn will never be a member of The Big 12, and that is not a slight at The Huskies. You will eventually be a member of The B1G, ACC, or a new conference that rises from the ashes of The Big 12. The only question is what is the time frame?
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I said it was crazy, but carriage fees for 9 million households every month plus advertising revenue is nothing to laugh at.
 
Time Warner is charging $2.00+ per month in the NYC markets for sports programming starting Jan 2015 whether you have a sports package or not. The only people exempt are those who signed up with a promotional package that is still valid. When that expires they will then start paying the fee.
 
Ldandy said:
Not going to happen. The Big 12 is the least stable of the P5 Leagues, and its members are only concerned about making as much money as possible over the term of their current contract.

The current membership of the league realizes that it is only viable as an entity for as long as Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas stay committed. None of the teams you listed matter to those three.

The rest of the conference's teams are simply building up their individual war chests, and trying to make themselves as attractive as possible to future suiters. This will be done through building up facilities, hiring/retaining name coaches, and winning games in the here and now.

Uconn will never be a member of The Big 12, and that is not a slight at The Huskies. You will eventually be a member of The B1G, ACC, or a new conference that rises from the ashes of The Big 12. The only question is what is the time frame?
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If I had a say I'd invite UCONN, Texas and Baylor to get to 18. The B1G can have Kansas and Oklahoma. West Virginia would be attractive to the SEC (and that is the dream of most moonshiners).
 
The next window for any realignment would be 2015 to 2017 when the Big Ten starts negotiating the new T1 rights. After that it would be into the mid 20's before other conferences are renegotiating. Of course the Big Ten and ACC could reopen negotiations if a prospective school showed interest.
 
DMountcastle said:
The next window for any realignment would be 2015 to 2017 when the Big Ten starts negotiating the new T1 rights. After that it would be into the mid 20's before other conferences are renegotiating. Of course the Big Ten and ACC could reopen negotiations if a prospective school showed interest.
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I wonder if there's a school out there that is interested in joining the Big 10, or ACC. Hmm.......
 
The state of Big Ten basketball is reason alone to add UConn. All of UConn's home and away games would be sellouts. that's money that isn't being discussed. If they add $100,000 per game in ticket sales for men's basketball alone that's nothing to laugh at. And the whole country watches UConn basketball. I think you could get to 30-35 million a year in a good conference. You can't say that about Cincy or Memphis. Cincy doesn't get another conference into Ohio - Cincy doesn't even get the city of Cincinnati, Ohio State gets that market.
 
Mike Casazza ‏@mikecasazza · 2h2 hours ago
Big 12's Bob Bowlsby tells reporters at Liberty Bowl Big 12/ACC expect decision on petition to deregulate championship games in six months.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@mikecasazza @theDudeofWV the B10,P12, and now SEC will block the vote. They don't want to make it easier for ACC and B12 to get to playoff

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub @mikecasazza nobody is against it.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @mikecasazza P12 commish Hansen was quoted the other day saying that it's not fair to give other leagues a waiver

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @mikecasazza he is okay with divisional waiver but against eliminating 12 team requirement

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub I've given you guys link after link disproving that notion.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV larry Scott said it the other day regarding 12 teams. I am assuming Delaney and Slive now feel the same way.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub SEC supports it. I explained why.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV P12 and B10 have more voting power than SEC and B12. Will the ACC let the B12 have a title game w only 10 members? My guess, NO

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub The ACC & B12 co-sponsored the legislative Change to revoke the rule.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV two seperate rulings, correct?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
@NebGradDubDub No. The B12 asked for a waiver last year but withdrew it. This legislation is to revoke the rule.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV ACC pushing for conference championship game changes; Big 12 listening http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...e-championship-game-changes-big-12-listening/ … via @cftalk

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub · 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV funny thing is that changing the rules would allow ND Acces to the ACC title game. Could help push Texas football to the ACC

Christopher Lambert
‏@theDudeofWV @NebGradDubDub Listen to Bowlsby's interview a week ago on Fla radio. He explains it b
 

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