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Rutgers embarrassing itself in B1G play is not surprising. What about Maryland and its refusal to shake hands? Was that Edsall's call? Sorry, it had to be his call. I guess that's what one would expect from a guy who runs out the back door.


Not to defend Rutgers; but, they lost because Wisconsin has a Heisman Trophy caliber running back and a much bigger line and Rutgers does not in a came where the weather conditions eliminated the passing game. Pretty simple. Makes UConn's offensive burst against UCF in similar conditions at the Rent even more impressive.

As for Edsall, after the game he started that he did not know that his players pulled that stunt and apologized to everyone under the sun. The Coach is not on the field for pre-game handshakes, so it could happen. I am just giving the guy, even if he did run out the back door, the benefit of the doubt as he did give $25K to Jasper's memorial.
 

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Good Lord, can you imagine this year's UCONN team playing a B1G schedule this year? I suspect that, over time (and winning a few NJ recruiting battles), will shrink the competitive chasm between RU and the upper echelon programs like OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, etc. But alas we shall never forget that we are still talking about Rutgers. Rutgers is to athletic department competence as McDonald's is to fighting childhood obesity. Talk a good game but what you get is what you get.
 
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Not to defend Rutgers; but, they lost because Wisconsin has a Heisman Trophy caliber running back and a much bigger line and Rutgers does not in a came where the weather conditions eliminated the passing game. Pretty simple. Makes UConn's offensive burst against UCF in similar conditions at the Rent even more impressive.

As for Edsall, after the game he started that he did not know that his players pulled that stunt and apologized to everyone under the sun. The Coach is not on the field for pre-game handshakes, so it could happen. I am just giving the guy, even if he did run out the back door, the benefit of the doubt as he did give $25K to Jasper's memorial.
When I said embarrassed, I was referring to the Rutgers stuff going on at the stadium for its first B1G game against Penn State. And I agree that perhaps Edsall didn't know about the handshake business, but those are his captains. It's all his responsibility. If he doesn't have control, that's just as bad as knowing about it in the first place.
 
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Good Lord, can you imagine this year's UCONN team playing a B1G schedule this year? I suspect that, over time (and winning a few NJ recruiting battles), will shrink the competitive chasm between RU and the upper echelon programs like OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, etc. But alas we shall never forget that we are still talking about Rutgers. Rutgers is to athletic department competence as McDonald's is to fighting childhood obesity. Talk a good game but what you get is what you get.
I still maintain being in the B1G could hurt Rutgers recruiting as opposed to helping it. Kids in NJ getting to see Michigan and Ohio State up close, well those are pretty sweet options. Could go either way.
 
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When I said embarrassed, I was referring to the Rutgers stuff going on at the stadium for its first B1G game against Penn State. And I agree that perhaps Edsall didn't know about the handshake business, but those are his captains. It's all his responsibility. If he doesn't have control, that's just as bad as knowing about it in the first place.

Good God. Edsall picked captains who did something that was bush league. Not that shot up a 7-11 to steal some hot dogs. Interesting that the people who focused on this haven't once mentioned how Maryland is actually doing on the field.
 
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The stuff at the Penn St. game was very poor taste. The Rutgers alumni that I live near and work with were very embarrassed, especially because many of our other neighbors went to Penn St. That's said, no one is surprised that it went on with Julie Hermann in charge. No one I know has any respect for her.

Agree on the Coach is ultimately responsible (unless one is the head coach of the Jets, argh!). But, I honestly believe that Edsall did not know the Captain's were going to do that. Maeyland did lose one of their captains for next week's game though for pushing a ref in the following scuffle.
 
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The stuff they did was bad enough, but hey, all programs make mistakes. What really gets me is its their first year in the B1G. Show some freaking appreciation for your good fortune!
 
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Good God. Edsall picked captains who did something that was bush league. Not that shot up a 7-11 to steal some hot dogs. Interesting that the people who focused on this haven't once mentioned how Maryland is actually doing on the field.
I stayed out of this but come one. They got curb stomped by both Ohio State at home and Wisconsin on the road. They eeked out a one point win at PSU, in Franklin's first year there. Just like his arrogance came back and bit him against Navy while at UConn, when Franklin gets his chance he is going to hang 60 on Edsall if he is still there.
 

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I heard there was a skirmish sometime prior to the flip. I heard Edsall say he had no prior knowledge that the captains weren't going to shake hands and did not think his captains acted appropriately. He was going to discuss the incident with his captains.
 
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I heard there was a skirmish sometime prior to the flip. I heard Edsall say he had no prior knowledge that the captains weren't going to shake hands and did not think his captains acted appropriately. He was going to discuss the incident with his captains.

B1G reprimanded Edsall, fined Maryland 10K, and suspended Maryland team Captain Diggs for a game (and a big one at that against Michigan St). Messages sent.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/110314aad.html

Meanwhile, silence from the ACC offices in Greensboro NC regarding UNC and Florida St.
 
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MH3 @MH3 · Nov 3
And expansion is not dead on the lower levels as well. AAC looking to swell their football membership by 2-4. In talks with several schools

MH3 @MH3 · Nov 3
One particular school lobbying hard for AAC membership is my wife's graduate school, perpetual WVU doormat Marshall.
 
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MH3 @MH3 · Nov 3
And expansion is not dead on the lower levels as well. AAC looking to swell their football membership by 2-4. In talks with several schools

MH3 @MH3 · Nov 3
One particular school lobbying hard for AAC membership is my wife's graduate school, perpetual WVU doormat Marshall.
The Herd joining the AAC would put the AAC ahead of C-USA. :cool:
 

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MH3 @MH3 · Nov 3
And expansion is not dead on the lower levels as well. AAC looking to swell their football membership by 2-4. In talks with several schools

MH3 @MH3 · Nov 3
One particular school lobbying hard for AAC membership is my wife's graduate school, perpetual WVU doormat Marshall.

MH is married to someone with a Masters?! :confused: Holy crap, that might be the most interesting thing I have learned over all these years of reading these non-key tweets.
 
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Adding schools will increase inventory which, in theory, will hopefully increase the value of the ESPN contract even if it weakens the conference. The question becomes what is the tradeoff of adding 2 or more lousy programs vs the potential increase in dollars.

It has also been rumored recently that Aresco is seeking a GOR from AAC schools. Maybe this is his tool to get the GOR. If UConn signs a GOR with this dumpster fire conference it immediately becomes time for heads to roll

This continues to be a tshow for UConn.
 

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Aresco may be looking to make a good deal for a network, preparing his next job, and for the weaker schools in the league who would happily sign a GoR for an extra $2 mn per year. There were rumors recently that Aresco was talking to schools like Marshall about expansion -- if so maybe he wants to dilute the voting power of the more valuable schools to get the GoR through? Maybe he expects departures? With exit fees gone when the TV contract expires, the top schools may look to break away for a smaller higher-quality league. UConn, Cincy, UCF, BYU, Boise, SDSU, Temple, SMU, Houston, USF or Memphis?
 

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Aresco may be looking to make a good deal for a network, preparing his next job, and for the weaker schools in the league who would happily sign a GoR for an extra $2 mn per year. There were rumors recently that Aresco was talking to schools like Marshall about expansion -- if so maybe he wants to dilute the voting power of the more valuable schools to get the GoR through? Maybe he expects departures? With exit fees gone when the TV contract expires, the top schools may look to break away for a smaller higher-quality league. UConn, Cincy, UCF, BYU, Boise, SDSU, Temple, SMU, Houston, USF or Memphis?

I don't think that's how it works. I believe each school has to "Grant" their media rights before that can take place. It's not automatically granted just because a majority wants to.
 

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I don't think that's how it works. I believe each school has to "Grant" their media rights before that can take place. It's not automatically granted just because a majority wants to.

I was assuming the bylaws allowed a 3/4 majority to impose terms on the minority, e.g. the way the ACC imposed the $50 mn exit fee on Maryland and FSU: http://espn.go.com/college-football...media-rights-deal-lock-schools-okd-presidents.

But after Googling I guess you are right.

Yeah but breaking a GOR with the American would probably be cheaper than a good steak dinner...

No, AAC exit fees are cheap but GoR (if they are enforceable) take away the value of the destination conference, not the conference you are departing. If UConn left the AAC for the B1G, they would be handing all their valuable B1G games to the AAC and its media partner.
 
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I don't think that's how it works. I believe each school has to "Grant" their media rights before that can take place. It's not automatically granted just because a majority wants to.
Yes, per the recent case study in the ACC: The exit fee was raised with 3/4 majority; the GoR required unanimity.
 

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If a GoR requires unanimity, maybe UConn could carve out its own TV rights and market them itself. Let the conference members choose to be part of the GoR or to self-market. I think a UConn Network in Connecticut would do OK, and UConn could sell national games on the side, and regionally to SNY or NESN. At any rate, it would be a fair test of market power.
 

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