It's really hard to offer both men's hockey and men's lacrosse if you offer football. There's no women's equivalent to footballs 85 scholarships. I remember watching the lacrosse final four a few years ago and they basically said that the number 1 thing holding back growth of D1 men's lacrosse was Title IX.
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It's really hard to offer both men's hockey and men's lacrosse if you offer football. There's no women's equivalent to footballs 85 scholarships. I remember watching the lacrosse final four a few years ago and they basically said that the number 1 thing holding back growth of D1 men's lacrosse was Title IX.
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The #1 thing holding growth of lacrosse is money. Women play lacrosse too. You could add both men's and women's lacrosse, but where's the money?
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Don't forget women's hockey.
Exactly, UConn offers womens lacrosse scholarships. I'm sure that UConn would love to add mens lacrosse, but they'd have to add an equal amount of womens scholarships to offset them. They just had to do that when they started giving scholarships to the mens hockey this past year. By offering scholarships to field hockey, womens hockey, and womens lacrosse and no mens equivalents, that nearly offset 85 football scholarships.
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Easily solved. Start an 85-scholarship women's ping pong team. Create a league of one. Count scrimmages as league games.
If a scholarship is $30k, all you need is $3 mn per year. The cost of a basketball coach.
To defray the costs, let the BTN have women's ping pong games so they increase their live content. Recruit pretty women from Sweden who like to play sports in bikinis in order to make the content more valuable.
If a scholarship is $30k, all you need is $3 mn per year. The cost of a basketball coach.
To defray the costs, let the BTN have women's ping pong games so they increase their live content. Recruit pretty women from Sweden who like to play sports in bikinis in order to make the content more valuable.
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I personally believe that money is the exact reason we haven't attempted to add men's lacrosse (and the athletic department doesn't even like the subject presented to them).
At the moment the only men's sport (save football and equating baseball to softball) that we don't offer a women's equivalent is golf. I saw something a few years back by a group attempting to promote men's lacrosse at UConn which stated that if we a) increased scholarships where there is availability in current women's sports (evidently we aren't fully funded in some), b) added women's golf (this would also include cost of a coach or two) and c) recruited non scholarship women athletes (which would require a budgert increase) to bring total participation is track & field and softball to match men's track & field and baseball we then could add men's lacrosse and still be compliant.
As we currently are attempting to compete with schools who receive substantially more conference revenue than we do I imagine that the added costs of men's lacrosse will be beyond anything the school is willing to undertake until we land in a P-5 conference.
At the moment the only men's sport (save football and equating baseball to softball) that we don't offer a women's equivalent is golf. I saw something a few years back by a group attempting to promote men's lacrosse at UConn which stated that if we a) increased scholarships where there is availability in current women's sports (evidently we aren't fully funded in some), b) added women's golf (this would also include cost of a coach or two) and c) recruited non scholarship women athletes (which would require a budgert increase) to bring total participation is track & field and softball to match men's track & field and baseball we then could add men's lacrosse and still be compliant.
As we currently are attempting to compete with schools who receive substantially more conference revenue than we do I imagine that the added costs of men's lacrosse will be beyond anything the school is willing to undertake until we land in a P-5 conference.
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UConn HAD D-1 lacrosse up until Title IX went into effect in the 70s. It was then d/ced along with wrestling to get the University into compliance. My feeling is that the only way that UConn will bring back varsity lacrosse is if it's admitted to the B1G which will be incentive to sponsor the sport.
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I know that ND does it (hockey, lacrosse, football, baseball , soccer, women's sports) but don't know how many others do so.
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Funny I sometimes esp in a very close game I get so nervous I really can't enjoy it live but if my team wins those kind of games i get more enjoyment the second and/or third viewing....maybe thats just me lol.
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In the Big10, Michigan, Ohio St, and Penn State do. Besides Rutgers, UMD, and now Johns Hopkins, no one else has a men's lacrosse team (Northwestern has a women's but no men's). Michigan State had a varsity teams many years ago, but it's now a club sport and there is no word of them bouncing up to varsity.
The hockey schools in The Big10 are: Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. There is talk that Illinois, Nebraska, and Northwestern are interested.
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this personally but no one cares what ND does with ALL the MONEY they make and don't share.
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It would take a donation similar to the one given to Penn State for Rutgers to start a hockey program.
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So, Michigan and Ohio State are the only two in the Big Ten that offer them all (which was what I was getting at with ND)?
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please don't take
this personally but no one cares what ND does with ALL the MONEY they make and don't share.
I don't take it personally at all. Don't take it personally that I don't care that no one else cares.
ND makes less TV money than Purdue, Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota, for example, so I think that "sharing" is irrelevant.
I was responding to primus74's post.
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Penn State as well.
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That is me to a T. I've had many a quiet ride home from work trying to avoid some jabroni on the radio ruining it for me. It takes away all the drama and my motivation to watch. Much like TerryD, I have absolutely NO interest in old games. I would watch player profiles of former players, but wouldn't watch the games. If for some reason I lose my memory and those old games become new again, I'll watch. Until then...not so much.
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But ND does not have a field hockey team.
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We need to rename this thread "non key discussion"
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ha. What's the exit fee for ND from its "no conference but the ACC through 2025" contract?
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Second tweet says the Irish are holding confidential info over Swofford and release will be 24 million and two ACC teams per year on ND football schedule
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Maybe, but they didn't take no attendance, no course work, no nothing courses UNC requires for graduation either. Just saying!ramses 2.0 said:
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Well, recognition of your issues is the first step to your recovery elsewhere.
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Fishy said:
Sure he's a clueless troll too, but who among the legions of acc posers is Ren to bt's Stimpy?
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