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[billybud]

Its possible an agreement is made whereby the clause to dissolve remains at 8 min votes despite the additions.

Things could get very creative in other ways perhaps.

The simplest path is to convince the hold outs not named FSU and Clemson.

Andrea Adelson ESPN....responding to Notre Dame's Swarbrick.

Every other league makes biz decisions on realignment but the ACC should be charitable and not abandon two of the best academic institutions in the world? From a school that does not play football in said league facing significant revenue gaps w/SEC, Big Ten. Make it make sense.

 

[CL82]

ESPNs future is kind shaky. College Basketball is the one sport they have really stopped covering, and I think that continues. They overdo women’s basketball because it is cheap.

ESPN is in an era of consolidation of content, not grabbing content.

Women's basketball would be essentially "free" wouldn't it, aside from production costs? It's not like they're bidding separately for women's basketball conferences. It's all rolled into the rights that they already have when they negotiate conference rights for football.

Yormark was going to separate this out. I do think that there would be some incremental increases if you could negotiate separately for football, men's basketball, and women's basketball.

Strongly agree with your point about consolidation.

 

[ScottVib]

Women's basketball would be essentially "free" wouldn't it, aside from production costs? It's not like they're bidding separately for women's basketball conferences. It's all rolled into the rights that they already have when they negotiate conference rights for football.

That was one of the keys for ESPN+. They own the rights… get the schools to produce content and you essentially air it for free (ok this is a gross simplification), at that point you’re winning even if it’s only friends and families of the students playing in the game paying for and watching the baseball, softball, soccer, etc content.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I don’t get acc strategy. I get GOR, but this is business. Negotiate an exit for fsu and Clemson.

Contracts are protection vehicles. But they aren’t blood oaths. If you don’t wanna be there, come to a separation agreement.

I imagine that if any current ACC member approached the ACC about leaving the conference the parties would immediately begin working on a separation agreement.

I'm guess that this hasn't happened for a couple of reasons:
1 - the school(s) approaching the conference realize that a fair buyout of the GOR (not even considering mutually agreed upon departure fees) could end up being anywhere from $350 million to $500 million.
2 - the school(s) that have been making all of the noise realize that they may not have a home after buying their freedom from the ACC.

 

[billybud]

No sense in notifying and immediately have payouts withheld and give up your vote.

If there is any notification..it will be at the August 15 date necessary to move the next season...I suspect August 15 2024 if there will be a movement for the 2025 season.

 

[GG]

 

[don356]

The big east would make no sense for all the non bball sports.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If that's in play, why not just merge with the WCC? They have one fewer football school.

To remain a conference that sponsors football they'll need a number of non-football members regardless of the conference they are merging with is on the east coast or west coast.

Of greater importance, would they need to continue to sponsor football as a conference? The four could become independent in football (like we are), set a scheduling arrangement among themselves and work out games with the rest of FBS football to complete their schedules. Olympic sports then would not need travel.

 

[hoopsfan22]

The big east would make no sense for all the non bball sports.

It's a suggestion by someone on twitter named frankthetank111. Probably best to not take too seriously.

 

[huskymedic]

It's a suggestion by someone on twitter named frankthetank111. Probably best to not take too seriously.

Do a little research on Frank…

 

[hoopsfan22]

Do a little research on Frank…

LOL no thanks. I have no desire to "do a little research" on internet randos.

 

[Exit 4]

LOL no thanks. I have no desire to "do a little research" on internet randos.

Your loss - he’s a known voice on CRA. Ironically you are actually the rando here in the discussion.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Your loss - he’s a known voice on CRA. Ironically you are actually the rando here in the discussion.

As are you. What's your point?

 

[Chin Diesel]

I imagine that if any current ACC member approached the ACC about leaving the conference the parties would immediately begin working on a separation agreement.

I'm guess that this hasn't happened for a couple of reasons:
1 - the school(s) approaching the conference realize that a fair buyout of the GOR (not even considering mutually agreed upon departure fees) could end up being anywhere from $350 million to $500 million.
2 - the school(s) that have been making all of the noise realize that they may not have a home after buying their freedom from the ACC.

Right. The schools want a negotiation to get out but don't want to pay the fair price.

 

[Exit 4]

As are you. What's your point?

I’m not one calling a well known CRA voice a rando. Frank is not a rando at all. Welcome to college athletics.

 

[Pat125]

The rationale given by Swarbrick sounds nice, and almost sounds a little sincere. I wonder what the real reason is.

 

[Storrs South]

The rationale given by Swarbrick sounds nice, and almost sounds a little sincere. I wonder what the real reason is.

Stability. They need the ACC to survive so they have a place to park non-FB sports. If the ACC falls, they will be confronted with either having to 1) place non-FB in Big East and stay indy or 2) join the Big Ten in full. I don't think ND is interested in parking everything in the Big 12 sans FB.\

By adding schools they ensure the ACC will remain in existence through sheer numbers, something the PAC12 was incapable of understanding.

 

[hoopsfan22]

If Swarbrick were sincere he'd agree to have ND all in on the conference to which they are trying to recruit other schools. Thought FSU's response was probably what most of the ACC members were thinking.

 

[billybud]

Well...Stanford is a regular Notre Dame traditional opponent...Swarbrick would like to have them stabilized in the ACC...

Adelson (ESPN reporter) had this to say though...

Every other league makes biz decisions on realignment but the ACC should be charitable and not abandon two of the best academic institutions in the world? From a school that does not play football in said league facing significant revenue gaps w/SEC, Big Ten. Make it make sense.

 

[Pat125]

Stability. They need the ACC to survive so they have a place to park non-FB sports. If the ACC falls, they will be confronted with either having to 1) place non-FB in Big East and stay indy or 2) join the Big Ten in full. I don't think ND is interested in parking everything in the Big 12 sans FB.\

By adding schools they ensure the ACC will remain in existence through sheer numbers, something the PAC12 was incapable of understanding.

Just as I thought. Swarbrick was FOS. Just like the Mag-7.

 

[ScottVib]

If that's in play, why not just merge with the WCC? They have one fewer football school.

In before Shizzle posts the next dominoes suggesting UConn join the PAC-4 in the WCC (with Gonzaga)

 

[billybud]

The SEC and Sankey are pretty arrogant...but they have reason to be....they have won more football national championships since 2019 than the Big Ten has won in 50 years.

 

[djct1999]

The SEC and Sankey are pretty arrogant...but they have reason to be....they have won more football national championships since 2019 than the Big Ten has won in 50 years.

Perception is a funny thing. I find the SEC justified to say what they want. I find the other three conferences arrogant. (and that one golden domed independent too)

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[billybud]

MHVER...LOL....another West Virginian in the cottage industry of tweeting from his basment.