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[uconnyankee]

 

[superjohn]

One massive reason the BE wasn't hurt (when most felt they would slowly slide down in stature in comparison to P-5 conferences) was Nova being as good as they were. Jay Wright has retired, the possibility exists that outside of us, there will be a few schools that can periodically remain ranked for most of a season and possibly make a stray run in the tournament (sweet 16/elite 8) but the conference as a whole will find it more and more difficult to remain near the top, especially if we leave.

Jay Wright is great but he's not the only great coach to have ever coached basketball. Rick Pitino, Danny Hurley, Greg McDermott, Sean Miller, Shaka Smart, Ed Cooley, Shaheen Holloway, Thad Matta are all really good coaches and several of them are amongst the highest paid coaches in the country. The jury is out on Kyle Neptune but Nova will be ranked preseason, if it doesn't work out they will fire him and hire the best option out there. Same thing UConn did, same thing UNC will do if Hubert isn't the right guy.

It's absolutely the same argument we had on this board a decade ago. The Big East wasn't going anywhere then and it isn't going anywhere now. They're going to be the best basketball conference in the country next season and they were a foul call away from having two teams in the final 4 and a likely Big East national championship game.

 

[ZooCougar]

I will be bummed. Likely the demise of UConn as a player on the national stage. Basketball may be in great shape now, but for how long? Do you think top athletes will still come here when they can get more money from P3 schools? Do you think it is better to play Providence and DePaul than Kansas and Iowa State, perennial tourney teams? How long can independent status be beneficial and affordable? I agree that AD Dave has been great in keeping this ship afloat, but it will not last very long like this.

Get ready to be bummed. What we are doing now is probably the way.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[jostar1]

"I think, from what I've heard, they've cooled on UConn."

 

[AzHusky]

Being here in Arizona I wish something would cool! It was 97 degrees at 7:30 this morning.

 

[GoKU]

"I think, from what I've heard, they've cooled on UConn."

That dude is never right. But if Colorado stays in the PAC, chances for expansion drop significantly. If any PAC schools leave for the Big 12, UConn will be in 100%. Hopefully at least one PAC school jumps.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I actually do think the Big East can keep up because people were saying the same thing 10 years ago. I would still like a P5 opportunity though.

The money gap is only going to exponentially grow as the years pass - past results can't be relied on to be predictive.

 

[shizzle787]

I hate to say this but I think we were a mere day or two away from being invited along with Colorado over a month ago until someone in their BOR killed it at the last moment. Word going around is someone told the Colorado BOR to stall, and the subsequent meeting (presumably to take an informal vote to leave) was shelved.

 

[shizzle787]

The money gap is only going to exponentially grow as the years pass - past results can't be relied on to be predictive.

The Big East spends more on basketball per school on average than any conference in America.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

The Big East spends more on basketball per school on average than any conference in America.

As of now. When the SEC and B1G programs pull in 500M more than us in tv rev the next decade you don't think that changes?

Is it any surprise that schools like Alabama, Arkansas, are starting to get good and investing in hoops now?

 

[shizzle787]

As of now. When the SEC and B1G programs pull in 500M more than us in tv rev the next decade you don't think that changes?

Is it any surprise that schools like Alabama, Arkansas, are starting to get good and investing in hoops now?

No. They will spend it all over their athletic departments. The SEC is pushing to allow expanded scholarship limits in sports like baseball. Sankey will get what he wants. As it is they are already getting 40+ million more than us yearly in TV money and still spending less than the Big East. You can only spend so much money on your basketball program.

 

[hoopsfan22]

No. They will spend it all over their athletic departments. The SEC is pushing to allow expanded scholarship limits in sports like baseball. Sankey will get what he wants. As it is they are already getting 40+ million more than us yearly in TV money and still spending less than the Big East. You can only spend so much money on your basketball program.

Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.

 

[shizzle787]

Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.

The schools can't directly pay. Their boosters have to create collectives. That is not AD revenue. TV money can't go toward collectives.

 

[JMick]

The schools can't directly pay. Their boosters have to create collectives. That is not AD revenue. TV money can't go toward collectives.

I mean, the money pool is the money pool. If a donor was going to give $1,000,000 to help towards renovations, but they don't need to now because they have more TV revenue, they can just put the $1,000,000 to their collective. It's just shuffling things around.

 

[superjohn]

The money gap is only going to exponentially grow as the years pass - past results can't be relied on to be predictive.

How far down the road? We don't know what any of this will look like in the future. Does the money they're shelling out right now for cable TV make sense? Is that the future? Does a Big 12 minus Texas and Oklahoma have the juice to justify the money that was shelled out for it? Does football keep getting more and more regional/Southern and poor?

Half this board said the Big East was finished a decade ago and wouldn't be able to compete in basketball going forward. If most of us are still here in another 10 years will we be having the same conversation again?

 

[superjohn]

Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.

The money that's being shelled out for NIL has been greatly overstated.

 

[shizzle787]

I mean, the money pool is the money pool. If a donor was going to give $1,000,000 to help towards renovations, but they don't need to now because they have more TV revenue, they can just put the $1,000,000 to their collective. It's just shuffling things around.

Most of these schools have nice facilities, though. If there is going to be a money discrepancy that matters to players, it is going to be in quality of coaching.

 

[B1GEast]

All of these talking heads hate the idea that UConn might get invited to the Big 12. They think UConn isn't deserving of an invite.

I really don't care and they can keep posting their echo chamber song and dance.

UConn is a brand. I get that the football team has struggled, but they were not abandoned by the university for the sake of basketball. They went out and spent the money on a big named coach who had a vision and he's helping the team turn the corner.

For some reason, well we are know, they're football snobs and the northeast and New England just doesn't know what real football is about.

I hope that yormark sticks to his plan and we get invited. They'll learn to love us when we start filling the Big 12 trophy case with titles in all sports. Not too many athletic departments are as good as UConn

 

[Jimdish255]

I hate to say this but I think we were a mere day or two away from being invited along with Colorado over a month ago until someone in their BOR killed it at the last moment. Word going around is someone told the Colorado BOR to stall, and the subsequent meeting (presumably to take an informal vote to leave) was shelved.

People are always scared of change. And President's hate burning bridges. They're getting strung along.

 

[Jimdish255]

Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.

This x1000
The Big always eat the small. Sometimes they're not even hungry. They just bored.

 

[hoopsfan22]

For some reason, well we are know, they're football snobs and the northeast and New England just doesn't know what real football is about.

The most successful pro football team of this century is the one in New England, so we know what real football looks like.

 

[businesslawyer]

How far down the road? We don't know what any of this will look like in the future. Does the money they're shelling out right now for cable TV make sense? Is that the future? Does a Big 12 minus Texas and Oklahoma have the juice to justify the money that was shelled out for it? Does football keep getting more and more regional/Southern and poor?

Half this board said the Big East was finished a decade ago and wouldn't be able to compete in basketball going forward. If most of us are still here in another 10 years will we be having the same conversation again?

It is a possibility. But you also can’t count on it. We just don’t know and there are too many variables to know what the future would look like

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.

Other than the fact that exactly the opposite has happened in actuality (FAU and SDSU in Final Four, TCU in Championship Game), this is a great point.

 

[CL82]

"I think, from what I've heard, they've cooled on UConn."

Where is that quote from?