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[Fairfield_1st]

I am not sure why anyone with a brain is still questioning whether these media companies are pulling the strings. Both ESPN and Fox have pretty much constructed these conferences based on what they would like.

Fox got UConn on the cheap with the Big East contract, which is one of the reasons why we didn't get into the B12.

UConn has to push the Big East to get into the streaming contract vs. putting all of their eggs with Fox. UConn might have to go to the streaming route on its own to prove its media worthiness.

I mostly agree with that, but for the PAC schools they're paying them more in other conferences than they were in the PAC. If the idea is better matchups and they'll recoup it, then why doesn't the same logic apply to UConn? Why are we the only ones they want on the cheap?
I do mostly believe the media is pulling the strings, but that part confounds me.

 

[Forte]

UConn and the service academies for football only. No problem

Not sure I'd want to play the option that often.

 

[Travelman6]

This doesn't seem appealing to me at all unless it was football only.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

UConn and the service academies for football only. No problem

As now, Army appears unlikely to return to any conference. West Point prefers flexibility scheduling opponents and relative difficulty.

As now, Navy would likely remain in a western-ish division. Annapolis likes its’ current Texas recruiting access and would potentially like similar in California with annual San Diego State games.

As unlikely as a football-only newly configured PAC X/AAC/MWC may be in exchange for a few hoop games, potential dinero, AD/BOT pursuit/reaction, etc may be interesting. Wouldn’t bet any of your houses …

 

[CL82]

Wouldn’t bet any of your houses …

Disagree. I bet any of their houses.

 

[billybud]

I mostly agree with that, but for the PAC schools they're paying them more in other conferences than they were in the PAC. If the idea is better matchups and they'll recoup it, then why doesn't the same logic apply to UConn? Why are we the only ones they want on the cheap?
I do mostly believe the media is pulling the strings, but that part confounds me.

As others have posted...it is football.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[billybud]

All it takes is one vote....but, the details of how the extra money will be divided are being negotiated.

 

[nadav]

Amazing about Zillow!

 

[Orc]

All it takes is one vote....but, the details of how the extra money will be divided are being negotiated.

Sounds like its done deal. Congrats to SMU. yuckk

 

[billybud]

The amount of expansion-generated revenue that goes toward the incentive initiative as opposed to being distributed equally among members is a key issue that could determine whether Phillips can get the required 12 of the 15 schools to approve adding new members, a person briefed on the ACC’s talks told AP.

 

[JeepCSC]

 

[superjohn]

Bingo

 

[noeynox]

Bingo

Hope he is right. We need upheaval.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Hope he is right. We need upheaval.

Chaos is a ladder.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Utah dumped on the Big12 every minute up to getting in, and now apparently through admission. This is the “dream scenario”.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[hoopsfan22]

So the Big 12 would absorb the remnants of the Pac 12 which would essentially make this whole realignment thing a merger of the Pac 12 and Big 12 with a handful of the schools going to the B1G.

 

[LBird33]

Good lord this thing is so stupid. There’s no rhyme or reason anymore. Just a scramble for the life boats

 

[Sole]

Im beginning to believe it’s because espn and fox don’t want a streaming service getting into college football..that’s why they broke up the pac 12 .. i think espn wants the acc to take stanford and cal… but some of the Acc schools are pushing back because the travel would be awful and the schools don’t bring value

 

[Urcea]

Makes perfect sense if it’s football only with Gonzaga joining for olympics, and then throw this conference some preferential OOC scheduling opportunities in basketball.

 

[JeepCSC]

Im beginning to believe it’s because espn and fox don’t want a streaming service getting into college football..that’s why they broke up the pac 12 .. i think espn wants the acc to take stanford and cal… but some of the Acc schools are pushing back because the travel would be awful and the schools don’t bring value

Colorado left before the Apple offer was announced and they did it largely because they no longer trusted the PAC leadership (with good reason). The networks only stepped in after the fatal blows were made.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Colorado left before the Apple offer was announced and they did it largely because they no longer trusted the PAC leadership (with good reason). The networks only stepped in after the fatal blows were made.

That timeline is completely wrong.

 

[JeepCSC]

That timeline is completely wrong.

Colorado announced they were leaving July 27th. The Apple deal was announced August 2nd.

Most of the other body blows to the Pac (the conference network albatross, failing to expand again and again, massively overestimating their value when negotiating with ESPN) all predate the Apple offer by months if not years. Oregon/Washington to the BIG was the culmination of the Pac destruction, not the opening salvo.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I mostly agree with that, but for the PAC schools they're paying them more in other conferences than they were in the PAC. If the idea is better matchups and they'll recoup it, then why doesn't the same logic apply to UConn? Why are we the only ones they want on the cheap?
I do mostly believe the media is pulling the strings, but that part confounds me.

Fox move was to block Apple from getting all the PAC properties. Fox paid some extra to keep a competitor from getting some key content for their streaming service. For UConn, it was more of moving one Fox property to another.

 

[billybud]

Im beginning to believe it’s because espn and fox don’t want a streaming service getting into college football..that’s why they broke up the pac 12 .. i think espn wants the acc to take stanford and cal… but some of the Acc schools are pushing back because the travel would be awful and the schools don’t bring value

With the new CFP payouts...there was a $100 million incentive for the PAC 12 to die.

The SEC and B1G will control the direction of the CFP revenue distribution at Wednesday's CFP meeting...the fewer Autonomous 5 conferences left, the more money for their teams.

I do believe that Fox and ESPN are behind a movement for a breakaway division of two major conferences that concentrate football brands.

The playoff monies should be huge and there will be the sharks that gobble the main share and the small fish that hang around snapping at scraps.

I also wonder if the ACC is under pressure to conform to the wishes of the network...what happened to the PAC 12 is a stark reminder of the ability of the gods of football to smite the arrogant.

 

[superjohn]

All but insuring there will only be 2 power conferences.

 

[billybud]

Warchant owner's take....on future

I've noticed that a lot of national media types aren't well versed in what's happening with television revenue in college sports. Most are stuck in antiquated thinking that a couple massive cable providers are generating all the revenue. As such, they overvalue things like "Carriage Fees" and getting conference networks into in new states. The days of Comcast and Direct TV paying massive fees to carry a conference network or ESPNU are gone.

It's going to streaming so revenue will be generated by eyeballs (TV ratings and # of fans willing to purchase a subscription to watch their team). It has very little to do with getting in markets with large populations because of the number of TVs that might carry the network. And thinking because a conference and network already have a team in a state (Florida) that it doesn't need another is nonsense. The total number of viewers/subscribers to a streaming service isn't going to change just because it has two high profile teams in the same state (Texas & A&M in the SEC).