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[Slasher]

Show me the data, please. I have never seen the data that suggests Cincinnati football is the clear #1 in the Cincinnati/ Dayton market. Not trying to be contrary, I just have never seen the data for that. Basketball I tend to believe more, but not football and overall fandom. OSU is to Ohio as the Packers are to Wisconsin.



Louisville and UK have some traction in SW Ohio, but WVU is too Far East to have an impact.

I don't remember the specific study, But it was Cincy/OSU/UK/UL then very small amounts of everyone else. The study I remember included SW Ohio, and the other "metro" areas of Cincinnati including northern Kentucky and SE Indiana.

 

[Slasher]

I don't remember the specific study, But it was Cincy/OSU/UK/UL then very small amounts of everyone else. The study I remember included SW Ohio, and the other "metro" areas of Cincinnati including northern Kentucky and SE Indiana.

I don't remember the specific study, But it was Cincy/OSU/UK/UL then very small amounts of everyone else. The study I remember included SW Ohio, and the other "metro" areas of Cincinnati including northern Kentucky and SE Indiana.

Any yeah there's no traction at all for WVU in Cincy.

 

[Slasher]

Any yeah there's no traction at all for WVU in Cincy.

I found this one:

43% UC 35%
27% OSU 25%
7% ND 10%
6% Other 8%
5% Kentucky 11%
5% Don't have 6%
4% Michigan 3%
2% Miami 1%
1% Louisville 1%

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

I love Cincy/UH/Memphis
"We can claim nearly half of our own city." And they're proud of that.

 

[dayooper]

I don't remember the specific study, But it was Cincy/OSU/UK/UL then very small amounts of everyone else. The study I remember included SW Ohio, and the other "metro" areas of Cincinnati including northern Kentucky and SE Indiana.

Thanks. Do you remember who produced the study and what it measured? Was it football, basketball, athletics as a whole or overall fandom of the university?

 

[dayooper]

I found this one:

43% UC 35%
27% OSU 25%
7% ND 10%
6% Other 8%
5% Kentucky 11%
5% Don't have 6%
4% Michigan 3%
2% Miami 1%
1% Louisville 1%

Link please, thanks.

 

[Slasher]

Thanks. Do you remember who produced the study and what it measured? Was it football, basketball, athletics as a whole or overall fandom of the university?

I really don't remember. I did forget Notre Dam they were third in the area I believe.

 

[Slasher]

Link please, thanks.

That was an unscientific poll but: http://cincinnati.247sports.com/Boa...-Your-Favorite-College-Football-Team-12965303

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

At least the link doesn't work.

 

[jostar1]

Andrea ‏@NoMas82 · 21h21 hours ago
@jacobscourant @EdDaigneault @NeillOstrout @BCgenius Hey Hey Ho Ho cover @espn duplicity in the destruciton of UConn or you got to go!!

 

[dayooper]

At least the link doesn't work.

Found it. It was a radio station poll done in Sept 2012. The actual results and the discussion on the blog are no longer available. The link was found on a Cincinnati 24/7 message board thread where the percentages were taken from.

Can't get the link to work.

 

[dwalks93]

Ok I am not trying to take a shot at UC but I am attaching 2 links that show UC well behind OSU in every fan demographic in all of Ohio.

As the NYT article states OSU has a plurality of fans in every zip code in Ohio.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-fan-map.html?_r=0

The below biz journal article does not have UC in the top 3 most popular college teams in Cincinnati

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinna...ege-football-teams-do-greater-cincinnati.html

UC is a fine program and may deserve a Big12 invite but UC does not "own" Ohio, not even a portion of it. UC has every right to be proud of their program but lying about their popularity only makes them look fraudulent. The numbers are what they are.

On a positive note I am sure the UC President is currently tweeting about sharing a shrimp cocktail with some Big12 President right now.... The UC president should just make sure to not invite OSU to the meeting, they are more popular with the BIg12 as well.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

tOSU isn't strong in southern Ohio? According to who?

For college football UC may now finally be a clear #3 as they have had a successful decade but PSU & ND are still miles ahead of them. In men's hoops they are battling X & UK for second behind tOSU but that is Na bit closer than football.

 

[UC1995]

Yeah this has been disproved multiple times, Cincinnati is clear #1, OSU has only about 25% support in the SW Ohio, with closer to 70-80% in the rest of Ohio.

I live in Ohio.... Cincy is a.non factor outside alums.... No one else cares about them. OSU has alums and everyone else. Even in southwestern Ohio. If you believe that Cincy has any pull you are delusional.

 

[Dooley]

I love Cincy/UH/Memphis
"We can claim nearly half of our own city." And they're proud of that.

The most frustrating part of all this - a large state flagship with complete ownership of its market has to explain markets and brands to fans of schools who don't even register as a top 2 draw within their own home market. And we're not talking New York or LA or Chicago...we are talking Cincinnati, Memphis, Tampa and Orlando. Houston at least is Top 10...but UH probably registers the lowest in their home market of all the candidates.

And yet we get zero credit for being Top 5 football in New York and Boston. That is exactly what these schools are...in their own market.

 

[JMick]

The most frustrating part of all this - a large state flagship with complete ownership of its market has to explain markets and brands to fans of schools who don't even register as a top 2 draw within their own home market. And we're not talking New York or LA or Chicago...we are talking Cincinnati, Memphis, Tampa and Orlando. Houston at least is Top 10...but UH probably registers the lowest in their home market of all the candidates.

And yet we get zero credit for being Top 5 football in New York and Boston. That is exactly what these schools are...in their own market.

I mean.... think about the people we're talking about. They are going/went to schools like Memphis and USF. They're not the brightest bulbs in the box.

 

[dayooper]

When asked where Texad would be in 2025, AP football writer Ralph Drusso replied:

Ralph D. Russo– Verified account ‏@ralphDrussoAP
I'll say Big Ten. Or UT goes independent. https://twitter.com/oriolesfactoids/status/762006422271954948 …
12:31 PM - 6 Aug 2016 from Brooklyn, NY

 

[CL82]

Other than the fact that Cincy's former President totally out worked our President - one thing I can't understand is how they are reported to be a locked in top 2 and we are not?
They have had more football success - but they will always be a second college in their market. In other sports we are clearly superior. Academics - we are also better.

https://platform.bing.com/geo/REST/v1/Imagery/Map/Road/Routes/Driving?ms=558,180&wp.0=39.107128,-84.504128;147;%20&wp.1=38.642414,-80.613617;148;%20&key=AsSOKo7OOz5VAtfAj0rjgaXlhCrCZI6PGbLj7GCH8IW2HUalyg4BVhqA0z77PRCj&c=en-US&fmt=png&od=2&routeid=v68,h931606933,i0,a0,cen-us,d_z839HUoyis1,y1,s1,m0,o0,t0,w-duck_X7aNQ0AAAACgQyBVwA2~Asu6q0gR9zgdAADgAQ74Aj8A0~VVMtMjIgLyBPSC0zIC8gR2lsYmVydCBBdmU1~~~~v10,wAwAAoDpSQ0ACAACARSdUwA2~Asu6q0jBdeoeAADgASgFuj4C0~U3RvbmV5IENyZWVr0~~~~v10,k0,n2&shading=flat

 

[Dooley]

My dream is that UConn gets into the Big 12. We use that time to re-establish our football program back to pre-Pasqualoni level. We also get closer to an AAU invite and, hopefully, eventually get our invite. We would then leapfrog Kansas and become #2 "attainable" power conference school for the next potential B1G expansion round to get to 16 with Texas & UConn.

In other words, if there is not a network and extended GOR, I do not have much faith in the long-term stability of the Big 12.

 

[UConnNick]

What everyone seems to be missing about Cincinnati is historically they've been a BB school, not a FB school. They never achieved any national notoriety in FB until WE helped legitimize them by letting them into a BCS conference in 2005. Then they enjoyed several years of success during the D'Antonio/Kelly era, but they've also fallen off from that in the past several seasons. It's not like they've been winning the AAC title every year in FB.

Their president just did a far better job than ours pimping them with the B12.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 56m56 minutes ago
To date, 23 schools have contacted B12 expressing interest in membership. 3 P5, 1 Independent, and 19 G5(most of the AAC and MWC)

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 56m56 minutes ago
Of course the 3 P5 that inquired won't be available for several years.


ME: "the 3 P5 that inquired won't be available for several years"

So I say.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

What everyone seems to be missing about Cincinnati is historically they've been a BB school, not a FB school. They never achieved any national notoriety in FB until WE helped legitimize them by letting them into a BCS conference in 2005. Then they enjoyed several years of success during the D'Antonio/Kelly era, but they've also fallen off from that in the past several seasons. It's not like they've been winning the AAC title every year in FB.

Their president just did a far better job than ours pimping them with the B12.

Not just them... But WVU! Give us some love!

 

[don356]

Demonstrably wrong:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html?_r=0#9,39.216,-84.692

That map is problematic in a few ways, but you're crazy if you think OSU doesn't deliver all of Ohio.

You're missing the point, you do not need to deliver all of Ohio, it's a big state with one P5 school right now in sports. Indiana has 3, Michigan 2, and when you're a school of 40k students, the largest employer in the city and have P&G, Kroger's and Macy's about 10 minutes from campus you're not going to be treated as an also ran. I've done business in Cincinnati and Columbus and i would much rather be in Cincinnati. Trying to compare any schools to the Texas, Osu's and Oklahoma's of the world is not the benchmark. Look around at the p5, it's not all "state" delivering schools.

 

[Matrim55]

You're missing the point, you do not need to deliver all of Ohio...

This was your point:

There not a second college in their market. 40k students and a 1.5b endowment. O$U is not strong in southern Ohio.

OSU is clearly the strongest presence in the Cincy market. Pretending otherwise is a bad look for you & for Cincy, and I say that as someone who truly wants you guys to be in the next conference (whichever it may be) with us.

You made a claim that's been thoroughly debunked. Now take your L like a man and move on.

 

[Alum86]

Memphis isn't a credible threat for Texas to make. There are community colleges in Connecticut that would be embarrassed to be in the same conference with Memphis because of Memphis' academics. Do you think Texas' president wants Memphis in UT's league.

Maybe. See Louisville to ACC

 

[UConnNick]

Not just them... But WVU! Give us some love!

Sure, the old Big East Conference.....maker of college football dynasties.....Miami, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Louisville, South Florida, Cincinnati, Memphis.....every team turns into a pee fiver, except us!

 

[AZHuskiePop]

My dream is that UConn gets into the Big 12. We use that time to re-establish our football program back to pre-Pasqualoni level. We also get closer to an AAU invite and, hopefully, eventually get our invite. We would then leapfrog Kansas and become #2 "attainable" power conference school for the next potential B1G expansion round to get to 16 with Texas & UConn.

In other words, if there is not a network and extended GOR, I do not have much faith in the long-term stability of the Big 12.

The huge question mak is how much success is possible to achieve in the next 6 years
Competing against B12 schools.
Money aside
What would be more appealing when the Big 12 explodes ?
A 20-52 team who had never been to a bowl or
Or
an AAC team who went 48 and 24 and had been to 6 consecutive bowls

Remember " Its not all gold that glitters"
Regardless of whether it's the B12 or the AAC success ultimately is our own responsibility.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

The huge question mak is how much success is possible to achieve in the next 6 years
Competing against B12 schools.
Money aside
What would be more appealing when the Big 12 explodes ?
A 20-52 team who had never been to a bowl or
Or
an AAC team who went 48 and 24 and had been to 6 consecutive bowls

Remember " Its not all gold that glitters"
Regardless of whether it's the B12 or the AAC success ultimately is our own responsibility.

Right right. Smash mouth dictates CR

 

[JMick]

The huge question mak is how much success is possible to achieve in the next 6 years
Competing against B12 schools.
Money aside
What would be more appealing when the Big 12 explodes ?
A 20-52 team who had never been to a bowl or
Or
an AAC team who went 48 and 24 and had been to 6 consecutive bowls

Remember " Its not all gold that glitters"
Regardless of whether it's the B12 or the AAC success ultimately is our own responsibility.

lol. so short sighted

 

[Jimdish255]

The huge question mak is how much success is possible to achieve in the next 6 years
Competing against B12 schools.
Money aside
What would be more appealing when the Big 12 explodes ?
A 20-52 team who had never been to a bowl or
Or
an AAC team who went 48 and 24 and had been to 6 consecutive bowls

Remember " Its not all gold that glitters"
Regardless of whether it's the B12 or the AAC success ultimately is our own responsibility.

3 years before we start knocking on the door. 5 at most. Truly believe that we end up consistently in the top half of the league. No doubt hoops stays strong, maybe stronger.