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[CoastAtlantic]

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 45m45 minutes ago
The reason ACC gauged the interest of NW & PSU is because ACC lawyers believe neither are bound by the B1G GOR.
Why?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 45m45 minutes ago
Strong belief in ACC that PA State law deletes the ability of Public College to be bound by Private Grant of Rights (B1G to TV Partners)

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 44m44 minutes ago
ACC also believes Northwestern, for different reasons..some having to do with being a private college in mixture of Illinois state laws...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 43m43 minutes ago
...some theorized in ACC/ESPN that Northwestern is not bound by B1G GOR.
I gave this info to Dude of WV way way way back.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 42m42 minutes ago
I do not know if ACC Lawyers perception are true. But I can only tell you through Maryland contacts (those who gave us settlement info)...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 41m41 minutes ago
...that ACC hold this perception...or at least did 2 years ago.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 37m37 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush Again....FOX got partial P5 content on Eastern Seaboard with Maryland. ESPN looked to see if PA and Chicago could be stolen

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 37m37 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush ...stolen away from FOX.
ESPN greatest fear is more and more P5 content being shared or stolen to FOX.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 36m36 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush I'm sorry...I meant ESPN greatest fear is more EASTERN P5 Content being shared or outright stolen/taken from FOX

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

As if Northwestern or Penn State would have any interest in the acc let alone leaving the B1G

 

[billybud]

As if Northwestern or Penn State would have any interest in the acc let alone leaving the B1G

If you set the situation back two years to when that info was supposedly current, many in the PSU family were very upset with the B1G.

There had been some ongoing grousing by PSU fans over the years...PSU, an eastern school in a midwest conference took a while to find its feet. The fact that when PSU went undefeated in 1994 and no writer from Big Ten country voted them #1 in the AP rankled some fans.

All in all, I do not think any P5 school is going anywhere nor did PSU think about going anywhere, but I do believe that Penn State folks were upset with the conference after the JoPa situation....and that created back chatter.

 

[CallMeBruce]

There's an article in the JI today "UConn Still An Option For Big 12?" I can't find it online, but anyway, Berry Tremel (columnist for The Oklahoman) went on the radio in WV and said that UConn is a candidate to go to the Big 12 if they expand. Talks about how PP broke the football program but they've turned it around under Diaco, good academics, good markets, and also how adding them and Cincy would be good for WVU, geography-wise. Not sure if it's nonsense or not, but whatever, thought I'd share.

 

[pj]

There's an article in the JI today "UConn Still An Option For Big 12?" I can't find it online, but anyway, Berry Tremel (columnist for The Oklahoman) went on the radio in WV and said that UConn is a candidate to go to the Big 12 if they expand. Talks about how PP broke the football program but they've turned it around under Diaco, good academics, good markets, and also how adding them and Cincy would be good for WVU, geography-wise. Not sure if it's nonsense or not, but whatever, thought I'd share.

Crazy if huge decisions like this are based on the last few years of football results.

 

[GG]

There's an article in the JI today "UConn Still An Option For Big 12?" I can't find it online, but anyway, Berry Tremel (columnist for The Oklahoman) went on the radio in WV and said that UConn is a candidate to go to the Big 12 if they expand. Talks about how PP broke the football program but they've turned it around under Diaco, good academics, good markets, and also how adding them and Cincy would be good for WVU, geography-wise. Not sure if it's nonsense or not, but whatever, thought I'd share.

Yes, there is a link to the audio above.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

If you set the situation back two years to when that info was supposedly current, many in the PSU family were very upset with the B1G.

There had been some ongoing grousing by PSU fans over the years...PSU, an eastern school in a midwest conference took a while to find its feet. The fact that when PSU went undefeated in 1994 and no writer from Big Ten country voted them #1 in the AP rankled some fans.

All in all, I do not think any P5 school is going anywhere nor did PSU think about going anywhere, but I do believe that Penn State folks were upset with the conference after the JoPa situation....and that created back chatter.

The Big E had a shot a Penn State and blew it because they didn't play good football. Fools. I also heard of some of the anti B1G grumbling by Penn St alumni here in Jersey. That said, no one thought they would leave the B1G for the ACC, especially after Rutgers was added, because 1) the B1G pay more and is more stable that the ACC, and 2) the B1G is more that just sports, the research side of the B1G, i.e. CIC, is worth a lot of money, too.

 

[noeynox]

Crazy if huge decisions like this are based on the last few years of football results.

While I agree, i don't think any P5 league is going to offer and out and out dumpster fire which is exactly what he had devolved into prior to this year. Now were showing signs of life, there was some semblance of playing competent football, the crowds were somewhat decent again and its a much easier sell to convince fan bases that adding us isn't an absolute disaster of an addition. That's my hope anyways.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

There's an article in the JI today "UConn Still An Option For Big 12?" I can't find it online, but anyway, Berry Tremel (columnist for The Oklahoman) went on the radio in WV and said that UConn is a candidate to go to the Big 12 if they expand. Talks about how PP broke the football program but they've turned it around under Diaco, good academics, good markets, and also how adding them and Cincy would be good for WVU, geography-wise. Not sure if it's nonsense or not, but whatever, thought I'd share.

http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/v1/u...1754775498001_4673759428001_4673735626001.mp4

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Interesting Barry Tramel's take on UConn " I thought it was very poor Academically"
He admitted it was pretty much through hear say. When he actually looked it up he was surprised at the our academic stature.
This probably is the result of the years of bad press we received over the NCAA
suspension. It shows how media can be a huge force for misinformation.

 

[jostar1]

Interesting Barry Tramel's take on UConn " I thought it was very poor Academically"
He admitted it was pretty much through hear say. When he actually looked it up he was surprised at the our academic stature.
This probably is the result of the years of bad press we received over the NCAA
suspension. It shows how media can be a huge force for misinformation.

Good point. I thought it was strange when he said that, too.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Good point. I thought it was strange when he said that, too.

Strange perhaps, but Tramel's take on UCONN reflects a simple lack of knowledge regarding the university's academic status and massive advancement in recent decades. Unfortunately, Tramel's not alone nationally and the same applies to a lesser extent regarding Connecticut's large NY market and New Haven/Hartford internet and TV eyes.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Academically, wouldn't uconn be near the top in the Big 12? Certainly top half at worst.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Academically, wouldn't uconn be near the top in the Big 12? Certainly top half at worst.

Only UT exceeds UCONN's well respected academic ranking and increasingly rising admissions scores.

 

[huskymedic]

Yes, there is a link to the audio above.

Here is the JI newspaper article. http://www.journalinquirer.com/eedition/page/page_ae671bb7-d084-535e-a981-3075450ff7b6.html

Pg 36 and pg 34. Use Arrows upper right to navigate.

 

[Gfunk]

If you set the situation back two years to when that info was supposedly current, many in the PSU family were very upset with the B1G.

There had been some ongoing grousing by PSU fans over the years...PSU, an eastern school in a midwest conference took a while to find its feet. The fact that when PSU went undefeated in 1994 and no writer from Big Ten country voted them #1 in the AP rankled some fans.

All in all, I do not think any P5 school is going anywhere nor did PSU think about going anywhere, but I do believe that Penn State folks were upset with the conference after the JoPa situation....and that created back chatter.

Total BS, my father voted for PSU as an AP voter for the St. Paul Pioneer Press & Dispatch. In fact the Midwest may have given PSU more votes than any other region - though not much. Even the Upper East Coast went overwhelmingly for Nebraska.

Nebraska was the sentimental favorite for years because Osbourne had so many close losses and they got hosed against PSU during the season PSU won it all, I believe 82. PSU had already won 2 NCs under Paterno before Osbourne got his first.

The 94 PSU team was great, but they barely squeaked by Indiana and Illinois that season.

The country, again, went overwhelmingly for PSU.

Stop reading PSU threads, they're dominated by old timers who can't accept how mediocre the program became towards Jo Pa's twilight where he utterly lost control of the program - was way too old to coach. If you monitored BWI Illustrated over the last 4 years of Jo Pa's career, the vast majority of the mostly terrible human beings on that website wanted Jo Pa gone, but then did a 180 when PSU lost control of their program & got what they deserved, but recaptured their wins due to legal mistakes by the NCAA.

Bottom line: PSU got watered down in the BIG because they simply can't beat the likes of Michigan and OSU in the big games, so the old timer Jo Bots blame the refs. They are hardly the core of that fanbase. Heck, PSU hardly has winning record against Minnesota in BIG play.

It's been argued that Barry Alvarez was concerned about losing PSU to the ACC, but he was knee jerking to threads and message boards via misinformation and he's far from the commissioner of the league.

But to be honest with you, I could care less of PSU leaves - there are too many whiners in that fanbase. Their wrestling and volleyball programs would fall apart in the ACC, they've won 11 titles over the past decade in these sports in large part because of BIG membership. Their recruiting base would crumble in these two sports with an ACC membership. They've never proven to be a good basketball school capable of capturing a rich stock of Pa hoops talent - so they'd just cellar dwell in ACC hoops.

I dare say if PSU bolts to the ACC, then a program like Rutgers, Jersey having better hs talent than PA now, could rise under the right coach.

Lastly, PSU can't complain about having a Midwestern feel anymore, Rutgers and Maryland, along with OSU give the program 3 border state programs. Moreover, PSU idiots often complain about the Rust Belt, when in fact PA is very Rusty - historically speaking.

 

[Fishy]

There is no chance that anyone leaves the Big Ten or SEC for the ACC.

You don't take what will be more than a 50% pay cut to join a lesser league.

 

[dayooper]

There is no chance that anyone leaves the Big Ten or SEC for the ACC.

You don't take what will be more than a 50% pay cut to join a lesser league.

But wait . . . I thought that the ACCN was going to make up the difference between the ACC and the rest of the field?

 

[junglehusky]

But wait . . . I thought that the ACCN was going to make up the difference between the ACC and the rest of the field?

Announcement coming in 20 minutes.

(old boneyard joke)

 

[Seaa Blue]

If you set the situation back two years to when that info was supposedly current, many in the PSU family were very upset with the B1G.

FIFY.

 

[billybud]

FIFY.

Maybe...But it also may be naive to think that the Big Ten's added sanctions did not anger PSU football fans. Two years ago, the Big Ten had in place sanctions against PSU...to include no sharing in bowl revenue for 4 years and a 4 year ban from a conference championship game.

 

[upstater]

Total BS, my father voted for PSU as an AP voter for the St. Paul Pioneer Press & Dispatch. In fact the Midwest may have given PSU more votes than any other region - though not much. Even the Upper East Coast went overwhelmingly for Nebraska.

Nebraska was the sentimental favorite for years because Osbourne had so many close losses and they got hosed against PSU during the season PSU won it all, I believe 82. PSU had already won 2 NCs under Paterno before Osbourne got his first.

The 94 PSU team was great, but they barely squeaked by Indiana and Illinois that season.

The country, again, went overwhelmingly for PSU.

Stop reading PSU threads, they're dominated by old timers who can't accept how mediocre the program became towards Jo Pa's twilight where he utterly lost control of the program - was way too old to coach. If you monitored BWI Illustrated over the last 4 years of Jo Pa's career, the vast majority of the mostly terrible human beings on that website wanted Jo Pa gone, but then did a 180 when PSU lost control of their program & got what they deserved, but recaptured their wins due to legal mistakes by the NCAA.

Bottom line: PSU got watered down in the BIG because they simply can't beat the likes of Michigan and OSU in the big games, so the old timer Jo Bots blame the refs. They are hardly the core of that fanbase. Heck, PSU hardly has winning record against Minnesota in BIG play.

It's been argued that Barry Alvarez was concerned about losing PSU to the ACC, but he was knee jerking to threads and message boards via misinformation and he's far from the commissioner of the league.

But to be honest with you, I could care less of PSU leaves - there are too many whiners in that fanbase. Their wrestling and volleyball programs would fall apart in the ACC, they've won 11 titles over the past decade in these sports in large part because of BIG membership. Their recruiting base would crumble in these two sports with an ACC membership. They've never proven to be a good basketball school capable of capturing a rich stock of Pa hoops talent - so they'd just cellar dwell in ACC hoops.

I dare say if PSU bolts to the ACC, then a program like Rutgers, Jersey having better hs talent than PA now, could rise under the right coach.

Lastly, PSU can't complain about having a Midwestern feel anymore, Rutgers and Maryland, along with OSU give the program 3 border state programs. Moreover, PSU idiots often complain about the Rust Belt, when in fact PA is very Rusty - historically speaking.

So full of BS.

There are literally photos of TEs standing straight up with the balls at their feet, called completions. With instant replay, never would have happened. Late game penalties for too much noise!!!

 

[Ldandy]

So full of BS.

There are literally photos of TEs standing straight up with the balls at their feet, called completions. With instant replay, never would have happened. Late game penalties for too much noise!!!

Total B1G Homer mentality. Completely brainwashed to accept his forever seat at the table of The Little 8. I'm sure we imagined the voters in Ohio who dropped PSU behind Nebraska in The AP Poll the week after PSU hung 63 on The Bucks in Happy Valley.

I guess we imagined Hartsock's Bouncing Completion, Tony Johnson's 2 Feet on green grass OOB call that lead to replay in the conference, the extra 2 seconds at UM in 05, the TD/fumble at UNL, Von Bell's ridiculous trapped INT, OSU getting three extra seconds to kick a field goal after the play clock expired in the same game. The greatest of all time however were the penalties in the 93 Michigan Game for excessive crowd noise. PSU was literally penalized for its crowd making too much noise. You can't make that shitt up. I'm sure GFunk will tell you that this didn't happen either, but it did because I was there.

I did enjoy his dig about PSU Sports falling apart should we leave the conference. I mean our AD is clearly a hot mess ala Rutgers. If anything we have elevated the overall quality of athletics across multiple sports since our inclusion in his little club. Much like UCONN we have had to fight against the established "blue bloods" to carve out our slice of history. The fact that we have won more total team National Championships over the last 10 years than the majority of B1G Teams combined just burns up plenty of the conference's old guard. I mean if we were to go to The ACC, our AD would implode. How would we ever land any athletes? Oh wait the overwhelming majority of these athletes come from ACC Country? Yeah I think we'd be just fine. That said we'll still make an exception to steal Minnesota's best athletes like we did with #1 P4P Wrestler Mark Hall.