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Well, it's a good thing we've won a men's title sooner than any school not named Duke, and that our women's team is like the Celtics of the 1960s.

I don't think any of this is relevant anymore, actually. The vast majority of schools that have changed leagues have never been subjected to a quality test. Ask yourself this: what's the brand of Syracuse? Virginia Tech? Pittsburgh? BC? Maryland? Rutgers? Colorado? Utah? TCU?

At best you've got Miami, Nebraska and Louisville that moved on football grounds; Virginia Tech, TCU and West Virginia that took the last train out of the station, hanging on for dear life; BC that was invited after being turned down once; Syracuse and Pitt that were added to try to wall off Penn State; Colorado and Utah that were added as emerging markets; and Maryland and Rutgers that were added for TV sets. No one gives a crap about quality anymore.

If they did, we wouldn't be sitting here holding the bag with more men's hoops than all of those schools put together, and a BCS berth sooner than half of them, and the greatest women's program in the history of women's college athletics, in one of the wealthiest states in the nation and the 30th largest TV markets (positioned between the 1st and 7th-largest).
'Cuse and UConn were targeted to kill the Big East. Pitt was a last minute substitution but the goal was the same.
 
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We don't like Syracuse, but they are clearly a basketball brand.

Pitt...not so much.

This is true. Yet they chose a basketball brand 260 miles away from Manhattan, in New York's Bridgeport, instead of a basketball brand that is at least four times greater (and went 6-3 vs. the other brand in football).

The last time Pitt made the Final Four, Pearl Harbor hadn't been bombed yet and the nation had just 48 states. Think about that... their most accomplished player since then is Dajuan Blair's shoulder.
 
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This is true. Yet they chose a basketball brand 260 miles away from Manhattan, in New York's Bridgeport, instead of a basketball brand that is at least four times greater (and went 6-3 vs. the other brand in football).

The last time Pitt made the Final Four, Pearl Harbor hadn't been bombed yet and the nation had just 48 states. Think about that... their most accomplished player since then is Dajuan Blair's shoulder.
I don't think you can quantify "brand" based off of titles. 4 > 1, but in terms of "brand" (i.e. ratings, marketability, etc.) I don't think same ratio holds.

And yeah, your point on Pitt is right on.

It's important to remember what @CL82 said: were it not for the pettiness of BC, we're in the ACC right now instead of Pitt.
 

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This is true. Yet they chose a basketball brand 260 miles away from Manhattan, in New York's Bridgeport, instead of a basketball brand that is at least four times greater (and went 6-3 vs. the other brand in football).

The last time Pitt made the Final Four, Pearl Harbor hadn't been bombed yet and the nation had just 48 states. Think about that... their most accomplished player since then is Dajuan Blair's shoulder.

I really feel your pain/frustration today. Just keep in mind the first rule of CR and it helps temper expectations. I happen to think their most accomplished player since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor was Jerome Lane. He shatters backboards like CR shatters hopes and dreams.

The B1G approved designation for football, partnering with Yale and Wisconsin on separate ventures all help to improve our resume. A W versus a good Navy team will also help. Everything that we need to have happen is happening so that's all we can do. Everything else is out of our control.
 
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I don't think you can quantify "brand" based off of titles. 4 > 1, but in terms of "brand" (i.e. ratings, marketability, etc.) I don't think same ratio holds.

And yeah, your point on Pitt is right on.

It's important to remember what @CL82 said: were it not for the pettiness of BC, we're in the ACC right now instead of Pitt.

If UConn somehow does get into the B1G, I am going to set-up a crowd funding site to pay for a plane to fly over Alumni Stadium during a BC football game trailing a banner that reads - 'Thanks BC for helping UConn's entry into the B1G.'
 
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If UConn somehow does get into the B1G, I am going to set-up a crowd funding site to pay for a plane to fly over Alumni Stadium during a BC football game trailing a banner that reads - 'Thanks BC for helping UConn's entry into the B1G.'

I'm in! Do I make the check out to Mr Conehead or.......
 
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No.

Scoring 53.

Have you ever seen a Big 12 game? They look like that.

Agreed. Cincy actually has the same look. The Big 12 should just take those two and call it a day. Adding BYU, UCONN or UCF extends the conference's geography in ridiculous manner. Decent football and basketball, and two additional places for the conference to recruit players outside of the state of Texas.
 
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Agreed. Cincy actually has the same look. The Big 12 should just take those two and call it a day. Adding BYU, UCONN or UCF extends the conference's geography in ridiculous manner. Decent football and basketball, and two additional places for the conference to recruit players outside of the state of Texas.

This would also correlate directly with the first rule of conference realignment, kicking UCONN square in the nuts for another round.
 

CL82

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Agreed. Cincy actually has the same look. The Big 12 should just take those two and call it a day. Adding BYU, UCONN or UCF extends the conference's geography in ridiculous manner. Decent football and basketball, and two additional places for the conference to recruit players outside of the state of Texas.
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For you Huskie fans who were appalled to be in the same conference as lowly Memphis.
Next time please be more careful what you wish for.

Humility is the virtue that keeps pride in its proper place.
 

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For you Huskie fans who were appalled to be in the same conference as lowly Memphis.
Next time please be more careful what you wish for.

Humility is the virtue that keeps pride in its proper place.

I must have missed why I can not longer be appalled by being in a conference with Memphis?
 

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Not changing my mind - if Memphis gets their P5 ticket punched before we do, I will give up following this crap. Their football program is identical to ours (seriously, it is...look up the all-time records), their hoops is WELL below, their academics make LCC look Ivy League, and they are second, perhaps third, fiddle within their own state. I know, I know...they have a FedEx sugar daddy willing to buy their way in. That's why I will give up following this CR crap if that is all it takes. Another new, changing metric on why UConn is passed over: sugar daddies.
 
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Not changing my mind - if Memphis gets their P5 ticket punched before we do, I will give up following this crap. Their football program is identical to ours (seriously, it is...look up the all-time records), their hoops is WELL below, their academics make LCC look Ivy League, and they are second, perhaps third, fiddle within their own state. I know, I know...they have a FedEx sugar daddy willing to buy their way in. That's why I will give up following this CR crap if that is all it takes. Another new, changing metric on why UConn is passed over: sugar daddies.
I won't. If they go to Big 12, god bless, That conference is the worst possible landing spot for us. Plus it would get CR heated up again.
 

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Not changing my mind - if Memphis gets their P5 ticket punched before we do, I will give up following this crap. Their football program is identical to ours (seriously, it is...look up the all-time records), their hoops is WELL below, their academics make LCC look Ivy League, and they are second, perhaps third, fiddle within their own state. I know, I know...they have a FedEx sugar daddy willing to buy their way in. That's why I will give up following this CR crap if that is all it takes. Another new, changing metric on why UConn is passed over: sugar daddies.
But that's not a changing metric, it's a different league with different priorities. The B12 is not a landing spot for UConn, and Memphis or anybody else going there doesn't impact UConn's P5 future.
 
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I won't. If they go to Big 12, god bless, That conference is the worst possible landing spot for us. Plus it would get CR heated up again.

Would it? Cincinnati and Memphis are two teams nobody else wants. The only positive I could see is that, in the event Notre Dame does choose to join the ACC, we'd be the only reasonably partner for them.
 

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