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You don't get it. Nelson's plan is better because it is his. If someone else came up with something so convoluted, he'd probably bash it. and put a, "So you think fairy tales actually come true. Got it, " at the end.

My plan is better because it does not involve remaining in a southern mid-major conference. If you had a plan, any plan, it would, by default, be superior to the current plan as long as it did not involve remaining in a southern mid-major conference. If your plan is to remain in a southern mid-major conference, then your plan sucks.
 

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It's not just that your option will fail (it will), it's a false choice to begin with. Hardly anyone would consider it, let alone accept.

Then we have certain death.
 
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Status quo is not certain death. Status quo is postponing death which is exactly what is needed.

And guys, stop calling it nelson's "plan". It's about as much of a "plan" as me writing down "1. invent time machine 2. go back to 1990s and invent facebook". There was already an effort and an agreement to have a western flank of the AAC with Boise and SDSU and they walked away. If there was a pile of money sitting in ESPN with UConn/Temple/BYU/Boise/UMass(LOL)/etc.'s name on it, we'd already be in a league together, end of story.

God it seems like a lifetime ago that Marinatto was announcing Boise and SDSU as members of the Big East. Almost feels surreal to think about it today.
 

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Then it's a good thing the administration is not settling for status quo.

While the Big Ten was formed to create easier scheduling for athletics it is no longer driven solely by shorter bus routes. The Herbst Administration is positioning UConn to be an attractive target on both sides of the ledger, athletically and academically. It's not hard to see, but if you don't/can't, you'd be best advised to seek out an optometrist.
 
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Then it's a good thing the administration is not settling for status quo.

While the Big Ten was formed to create easier scheduling for athletics it is no longer driven solely by shorter bus routes. The Herbst Administration is positioning UConn to be an attractive target on both sides of the ledger, athletically and academically. It's not hard to see, but if you don't/can't, you'd be best advised to seek out an optometrist.
Or a therapist
 

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I do think that Herbst and Warde are thinking outside the box, unlike most of the posters here.
 
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sure its good for the school and state regardless if the money and time are put in to better undergrad programs and research partnerships and facilities but theres a reason theyre doing all of this now. the investment is significantly more lucrative with an invite to the b1g, both for the sports contract and for academic investment payoff. even the acc helps the school alot with all of that
 
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Stop right there. Three problems:

1) None of these programs are really better off in your proposed amalgamation than in their current place. You may be able to sketch out some hypothetical revenue improvements, but nothing can be signed until schools exit. And none of these schools who have exit obligations stand to gain more under your proposal than they lose in exit fees (for those with exit fees).

2) And I don't see how any would find joining your amalgamation time worthy, especially when we all know that for BYU, Cincy, Boise and UConn its all set up to be a way station on the road to a P5 conf. Why join your confederation when it might have a shelf life of 2 years. It will take a ton of work to accomplish and probably more unstable than any 'conf' assembled to date.

3) Bowls will not respect any of these teams playing as independents. BYU has its deal, so does Army. Doubtful any bowls ditch a G5 or P5 line up to add this group.

His plan has,like 10,moving parts, 9 of which are out of uconn ' s control. Other than,that what's not to like?
 

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I think that UConn needs to be prepared for an extended stay in purgatory. That purgatory can't be the AAC because UConn wouldn't survive it, but maybe this is the first step towards something a little better.

Okay so 4 pages and 25 individual posts defending his POV since yesterday at 6:25pm by nelsonmuntz, we now know unequivocally that Nelson does not like the AAC and we will burn a slow agonizing death unless we leave now. Can this be put to bed now?
 
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It's not hard to see, but if you don't/can't, you'd be best advised to seek out an optometrist.
Nelson would require a head-shrinking shaman from Papau-New Guinea.
 
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Okay so 4 pages and 25 individual posts defending his POV since yesterday at 6:25pm by nelsonmuntz, we now know unequivocally that Nelson does not like the AAC and we will burn a slow agonizing death unless we leave now. Can this be put to bed now?
Na it only gets more annoying
 

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I feel like Bart in this normally somewhat interesting thread.

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Waylon's plan is better because it is based on 2 seed line differences in a tournament that is won just as easily from the 7 line as it is from the 3.
 

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Staying in the AAC is the only option and as long as UConn is willing to fund athletics at a P5 level, I don't think "death" is imminent.

A couple things to note:

-We just built a state of the art hoop facility and are reeling in big recruits. As long as KO is here, hoops will survive.

-The football facility is around a decade old and is in good shape. We pay Diaco a P5 level salary and we are showing signs of improvement on the field as well as in recruiting.

-So, we have two top notch facilities, two P5 level compensated coaches who are recruiting in the AAC.

-Most of our games aside from FCS opponents and cupcake early season hoop opponents are on national tv. Which by the way is up for renegotiation in only a few years.

So, don't get me wrong, the AAC cannot be our final home if we want to compete at the top levels decades from now (barring a P5 secession from NCAA), but I think we have more time than people think.

Forming a schedule alliance in football and joining the A10 in hoops, isnt even worth discussing.
 
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Staying in the AAC is the only option and as long as UConn is willing to fund athletics at a P5 level, I don't think "death" is imminent.

A couple things to note:

-We just built a state of the art hoop facility and are reeling in big recruits. As long as KO is here, hoops will survive.

-The football facility is around a decade old and is in good shape. We pay Diaco a P5 level salary and we are showing signs of improvement on the field as well as in recruiting.

-So, we have two top notch facilities, two P5 level compensated coaches who are recruiting in the AAC.

-Most of our games aside from FCS opponents and cupcake early season hoop opponents are on national tv. Which by the way is up for renegotiation in only a few years.

So, don't get me wrong, the AAC cannot be our final home if we want to compete at the top levels decades from now (barring a P5 secession from NCAA), but I think we have more time than people think.

Forming a schedule alliance in football and joining the A10 in hoops, isnt even worth discussing.

In preparing to join a bigger and better league, Rutgers spent about five years bathing in red ink, and not just because red is one of their school colors.

It's clear we can't spend money at our current levels and not make more forever, but I just don't think things are going to stay the way they are forever.
 
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No...death is not eminent..but beyond facilities and coaching pay....

UConn basketball needs to stay the course and not drop off.

The team needs to be mentioned in the same sentences with the best teams. Remain a Top 25 team and contender.

Great basketball is the branding and it must be maintained.
 
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No...death is not eminent..but beyond facilities and coaching pay....

UConn basketball needs to stay the course and not drop off.

The team needs to be mentioned in the same sentences with the best teams. Remain a Top 25 team and contender.

Great basketball is the branding and it must be maintained.

Well, it's a good thing we've won a men's title sooner than any school not named Duke, and that our women's team is like the Celtics of the 1960s.

I don't think any of this is relevant anymore, actually. The vast majority of schools that have changed leagues have never been subjected to a quality test. Ask yourself this: what's the brand of Syracuse? Virginia Tech? Pittsburgh? BC? Maryland? Rutgers? Colorado? Utah? TCU?

At best you've got Miami, Nebraska and Louisville that moved on football grounds; Virginia Tech, TCU and West Virginia that took the last train out of the station, hanging on for dear life; BC that was invited after being turned down once; Syracuse and Pitt that were added to try to wall off Penn State; Colorado and Utah that were added as emerging markets; and Maryland and Rutgers that were added for TV sets. No one gives a crap about quality anymore.

If they did, we wouldn't be sitting here holding the bag with more men's hoops than all of those schools put together, and a BCS berth sooner than half of them, and the greatest women's program in the history of women's college athletics, in one of the wealthiest states in the nation and the 30th largest TV markets (positioned between the 1st and 7th-largest).
 
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Well, it's a good thing we've won a men's title sooner than any school not named Duke, and that our women's team is like the Celtics of the 1960s.

I don't think any of this is relevant anymore, actually. The vast majority of schools that have changed leagues have never been subjected to a quality test. Ask yourself this: what's the brand of Syracuse? Virginia Tech? Pittsburgh? BC? Maryland? Rutgers? Colorado? Utah? TCU?

At best you've got Miami, Nebraska and Louisville that moved on football grounds; Virginia Tech, TCU and West Virginia that took the last train out of the station, hanging on for dear life; BC that was invited after being turned down once; Syracuse and Pitt that were added to try to wall off Penn State; Colorado and Utah that were added as emerging markets; and Maryland and Rutgers that were added for TV sets. No one gives a crap about quality anymore.

If they did, we wouldn't be sitting here holding the bag with more men's hoops than all of those schools put together, and a BCS berth sooner than half of them, and the greatest women's program in the history of women's college athletics, in one of the wealthiest states in the nation and the 30th largest TV markets (positioned between the 1st and 7th-largest).
We don't like Syracuse, but they are clearly a basketball brand.

Pitt...not so much.
 

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