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This Houston crap is such non-sense. What do they offer the Big Twelve? The Houston market and literally nothing else? I'm pretty sure that's null as Texas has that market on lock and Houston is 5th (if they're lucky) in their own city behind UT, Baylor, A&M and TCU. It's like the AAC adding UHart for the Hartford market.
 
This Houston crap is such non-sense. What do they offer the Big Twelve? The Houston market and literally nothing else? I'm pretty sure that's null as Texas has that market on lock and Houston is 5th (if they're lucky) in their own city behind UT, Baylor, A&M and TCU. It's like the AAC adding UHart for the Hartford market.

The one reason that U Houston is a serious candidate is politics, specifically Texas politics. Adding U Houston would not dilute the state of Texas's power within the XII and would beholden U Houston to U Texas during state budget season. If the Texas 'block' does succeed in adding Houston, the XII is a dead man walking as it will only be a matter of time before Oklahoma and Kansas bolt for more favorable pastures.
 
The one reason that U Houston is a serious candidate is politics, specifically Texas politics. Adding U Houston would not dilute the state of Texas's power within the XII and would beholden U Houston to U Texas during state budget season. If the Texas 'block' does succeed in adding Houston, the XII is a dead man walking as it will only be a matter of time before Oklahoma and Kansas bolt for more favorable pastures.
A school with red uniforms that brings nothing to the table getting into a P5 because of what state its in...where have I heard this tune before.
 
FrankTheTank is not so much a UConn hater as he is anachronistic

I fear that as far as the B1G is concerned that his overly romanticized view is common.
He is still mulling the the PSU add.
Overcoming that bias is the not an easy task for UConn supporters In an out of the B1G
Having a winning football team gives our allies ammunition to overcome that affliction.
We're like a perspective bridegroom pusuing the girl of our dreams.
We have to constantly be at our best.
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
I'm glad to see the insane rumor about Fox moving OU out of the big 12 has died. What a stupid rumor.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16m16 minutes ago
New from me about the Big 12 and Big 12 expansion:
http://dudesdispatches.blogspot.com/2015/07/spooky-action-at-distance.html

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 17m17 minutes ago
Before the critics hit me hard let me say I wrote that just now and it's not been edited. Live with it.
 
Flug calling out the Dude on twitter right now...
Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4m4 minutes ago
Sorry folks. But when a guy is zero for life on his info questions my credibility..especially when the doofus knows who my contacts are...
  1. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 17m17 minutes ago
    @Expansion_Crush @flugempire Greg isn't remotely credible. I'm not wasting my time replying to his fantasies.

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  2. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/478193056034717696/1CDsHcYJ_bigger.jpegGreg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6m6 minutes ago
    @theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush And you question my credibility? Really? How is the old FSU to B12 doing?
    1. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/478193056034717696/1CDsHcYJ_bigger.jpegGreg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 9m9 minutes ago

      @theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush That is why I came onto Twitter... You could not relay simple messages.
    2. Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 10m10 minutes ago
      @theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush The only decent info you ever got was from me until you stopped relaying the correct info and pissed contacts.
    1. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 20m20 minutes ago
      @Expansion_Crush @flugempire Greg isn't remotely credible. I'm not wasting my time replying to his fantasies.

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    2. Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 12m12 minutes ago
      @theDudeofWV @Expansion_Crush The truth of the matter is...and our timelines is the evidence...I have buried your ass.
 
These two really need their own reality TV show.

For the official record, I side with Flugs (for now) because he's more pro-UConn.
there is a LOT more...I just got tired of copying and pasting them...
 
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2h2 hours ago
I'm glad to see the insane rumor about Fox moving OU out of the big 12 has died. What a stupid rumor.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 16m16 minutes ago
New from me about the Big 12 and Big 12 expansion:
http://dudesdispatches.blogspot.com/2015/07/spooky-action-at-distance.html

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 17m17 minutes ago
Before the critics hit me hard let me say I wrote that just now and it's not been edited. Live with it.

Does the Dude see the irony of berating the world about the sanctity of the Big 12's GOR only 4 days after he said the Big 12 would approach FSU about joining?
 
Does the Dude see the irony of berating the world about the sanctity of the Big 12's GOR only 4 days after he said the Big 12 would approach FSU about joining?

He's convinced the ACC doesn't have a "real" Grant of Rights agreement in place because he swears it's dependent only on having the ACC Network in place.
 
He's convinced the ACC doesn't have a "real" Grant of Rights agreement in place because he swears it's dependent only on having the ACC Network in place.
He also refuses to acknowledge that if schools bail out of the B-12 that WVU is in big trouble. Kyle I have a question for you since you are a pretty level headed CR guy...if the teams that have been mentioned bail on the B-12 would the remaining teams merge with the AAC..or would the B-12 dissolve?
 
He also refuses to acknowledge that if schools bail out of the B-12 that WVU is in big trouble. Kyle I have a question for you since you are a pretty level headed CR guy...if the teams that have been mentioned bail on the B-12 would the remaining teams merge with the AAC..or would the B-12 dissolve?

I believe the league can dissolve with 75 percent of members agreeing. So if 3-4 teams bail, the rest would probably just vote to dissolve and then go their separate ways... wherever that leads them.
 
If the big 12 lost teams 7 teams or less, AAC teams and possibly MWC teams and BYU would rise up.

Remember the Big East was down to only 3 football schools and added the rest. As long as not enough teams leave to disolve, it will still exist. Already has media rights deal and P5 autonomy designation, kind of like the big east retained BCS status in its final limp dick year.
 
I believe the league can dissolve with 75 percent of members agreeing. So if 3-4 teams bail, the rest would probably just vote to dissolve and then go their separate ways... wherever that leads them.
adding the schools I have seen that would be left (TT, TCU, Baylor, ISU, KSU, WVU) would fill the geographical gaps pretty nicely in the AAC and make for a pretty good league.
 
adding the schools I have seen that would be left (TT, TCU, Baylor, ISU, KSU, WVU) would fill the geographical gaps pretty nicely in the AAC and make for a pretty good league.

I agree, although I think West Virginia will wind up in the SEC when all is said and done. I also think there's a chance those schools sit tight and instead add from the AAC rather than the other way around.
 
I agree, although I think West Virginia will wind up in the SEC when all is said and done. I also think there's a chance those schools sit tight and instead add from the AAC rather than the other way around.

Just my two cents; but, my gut is the ACC because even if the ACC holds together, I have a feeling that the B1G will figure out a way to pry one of the VA schools loose and WVU would be natural backfill - a decent football program near PA & OH recruiting areas with existing rivals with Pitt and to a lesser degree Louisville & Syracuse.
 
Just my two cents; but, my gut is the ACC because even if the ACC holds together, I have a feeling that the B1G will figure out a way to pry one of the VA schools loose and WVU would be natural backfill - a decent football program near PA & OH recruiting areas with existing rivals with Pitt and to a lesser degree Louisville & Syracuse.
WVU didn't get in the ACC because of academics, UConn is the natural backfill. Then again, they broke precedent with Louisville, so.... ugh.
 
Just my two cents; but, my gut is the ACC because even if the ACC holds together, I have a feeling that the B1G will figure out a way to pry one of the VA schools loose and WVU would be natural backfill - a decent football program near PA & OH recruiting areas with existing rivals with Pitt and to a lesser degree Louisville & Syracuse.

I could see that too.

If, in fact, the Big Ten strikes with Oklahoma/Kansas, that would probably leave Oklahoma State & West Virginia to the SEC. Texas would then be choosing between Big Ten or ACC. UConn could end up in a package to either league along with UT.

Edit: actually I don't think UConn as a package with Texas would work to the ACC, because if Texas joined that league, it's likely due to Notre Dame joining as a full member. So UConn's going to the ACC would likely only be if there is further expansion beyond those two or if Texas elects to join the Big Ten, leaving the ACC to expand to some sort of package of UConn/Cincinnati/etc.
 
I agree, although I think West Virginia will wind up in the SEC when all is said and done. I also think there's a chance those schools sit tight and instead add from the AAC rather than the other way around.
your honest opinion...where does UCONN end up? My heart hopes for the B1G...my gut tells me the ACC.
 
your honest opinion...where does UCONN end up? My heart hopes for the B1G...my gut tells me the ACC.

I still think they value another East coast presence. I do believe there's something to the Oklahoma/Kansas rumors, but they have no intention of stopping at 16 just for the sake of stopping at 16. If they get OU/KU, it would open up a Texas addition. I truly can see Texas & UConn rounding out the Big Ten at 18. Texas will either go to the ACC with Notre Dame becoming a full member or they'll join the Big Ten. In that scenario, I really would expect UConn being the other addition.

Not to say they wouldn't love Virginia and/or UNC, but it seems easier to pick off the Big 12 right now and let the ACC stay as the fourth major league.
 
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I still think they value another East coast presence. I do believe there's something to the Oklahoma/Kansas rumors, but they have no intention of stopping at 16 just for the sake of stopping at 16. If they get OU/KU, it would open up a Texas addition. I truly can see Texas & UConn rounding out the Big Ten at 16. Texas will either go to the ACC with Notre Dame becoming a full member or they'll join the Big Ten. In that scenario, I really would expect UConn being the other addition.

Not to say they wouldn't love Virginia and/or UNC, but it seems easier to pick off the Big 12 right now and let the ACC stay as the fourth major league.
I hope you're right...I just don't see UVA or UNC leaving the ACC for the B1G...they can get similar $$ in the SEC if they wanted. Adding OU and UT will help Nebraska recruiting in a MAJOR way. They get a chance to re-open up the fertile Texas recruiting grounds they had when they were in the B-12. The rest of those texas schools could join together with the AAC schools and recreate the Big 8 again.
 

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