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[RegisteredUconn]

I would agree to an extent, they can drive their ratings up, but they'll never approach the level of an ESPN. Perhaps they could match NBC Sports, but without a major pro sport and only second-rate college sports, they'll be constantly running uphill.

You do realize how long "never" lasts, right? Kind of a funny prediction given that you identified how Fox can match or surpass ESPN as part of the same post that says it can't be done.

 

[Stinger92860]

Why the delay?

Still a developing landscape and we need a partner.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
http://m.chron.com/local/education/...-a-dead-deal-6569169.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile …

Let me just piggyback off this article and say BTM agrees...UH is in good B12 position...however...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
BTM now proclaims the B10 perception has changed on who the B12 has as top 3 candidates for 2 spots.
UH-CINCY-Memphis.
Quite a change

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
According to BTM, B10 perception is that "more than a couple of B12 schools have "put a stop" to a BYU candidacy due to BYU location.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
BTM goes even farther...UCF candidacy is is considered doomed..as ESPN has its "thumb down" on its potential candidacy to B12.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
A couple of months ago BTM describe B10 perceptions of B12 of having no current schools pushing for a CINCY invite...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
But it has become more important that no B12 school is pushing against a CINCY B12 invite.
B10 perception has changed..CINCY is 11

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
UH or Memphis is 12....according to B10 perception (what they have heard) B12 is at...at this point.
B12 is working on this expansion

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
B12 will expand for 2017 FB season. And according to B10 perception it won't be BYU or UCF.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Yes...this is a whiplash by BTM....I admit.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
More than a few reasons BYU is out..but location has reared its head. 11:00am games not going away. Travel expenditures is a key component

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
"I think there's a better than 50 percent chance in the next 24-36 months that the University of Houston is in a major conference" Fertitta

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
http://m.chron.com/local/education/...-a-dead-deal-6569169.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile …

Let me just piggyback off this article and say BTM agrees...UH is in good B12 position...however...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
BTM now proclaims the B10 perception has changed on who the B12 has as top 3 candidates for 2 spots.
UH-CINCY-Memphis.
Quite a change

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
According to BTM, B10 perception is that "more than a couple of B12 schools have "put a stop" to a BYU candidacy due to BYU location.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
BTM goes even farther...UCF candidacy is is considered doomed..as ESPN has its "thumb down" on its potential candidacy to B12.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
A couple of months ago BTM describe B10 perceptions of B12 of having no current schools pushing for a CINCY invite...

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
But it has become more important that no B12 school is pushing against a CINCY B12 invite.
B10 perception has changed..CINCY is 11

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
UH or Memphis is 12....according to B10 perception (what they have heard) B12 is at...at this point.
B12 is working on this expansion

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
B12 will expand for 2017 FB season. And according to B10 perception it won't be BYU or UCF.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Yes...this is a whiplash by BTM....I admit.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
More than a few reasons BYU is out..but location has reared its head. 11:00am games not going away. Travel expenditures is a key component

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
"I think there's a better than 50 percent chance in the next 24-36 months that the University of Houston is in a major conference" Fertitta

Ironic that he blasts the Dude for throwing stuff against the wall, and then he throws this against the wall.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 50m50 minutes ago
B12, according to what the B10 now believes, has vetoed the idea of moving into a 3rd time zone. BYU location >> (-) vs BYU Big Brand (+)

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 49m49 minutes ago
Quite a change. But reasons have been stated.
If B10 has it read right...B12 near future will consist of:
CINCY/UH
Or
CINCY/Memphis

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 45m45 minutes ago
Important note.
B12 expansion Train is further down the track than believed.

 

[Dooley]

Again, if any of this is right, I'll puke if Houston and/or Memphis get their invite before us.

 

[CallMeBruce]

I think that's a mistake, but I get it. From a practice standpoint, Cincinnati and BYU are easily the two best options for the Big 12. Both bring quality football and basketball and both have valuable name recognition, especially BYU, which is one of the biggest national brands. Memphis' hot start might be helping them, making folks think they're there to stay. I wonder if Memphis holds onto Fuente if they get into the BXII.

 

[SAMCRO]

It will be interesting to see how Memphis sustains their current success. They are most likely going to lose their head coach after this season with all the P5 openings that will be popping up this season.

 

[CL82]

We would like to think that, but football is still king. Our basketball is top notch and we bring ice hockey as well which you would think would matter for TV numbers December through April, but I guess that will never trump what you bring to the table Sept/Oct/Nov otherwise someone would have snapped up UConn a long time ago.

I don't think your last point is valid though you hear it a lot. There are windows of opportunity in CR and you need to be the right fit at the right time. UConn is working hard to be ready for the next opening. The Big 12 is a miserable fit for us, otherwise we'd be in the discussion more than we are.

FWIW, I enjoy the Flug but I think he's jumped the shark with "the Big 10's impressions" of Big 12 plans.

 

[NYUConn]

If the Big 12 thinks that adding another team from Texas and Cincy is going to keep Oklahoma happy, they're in trouble.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

It will be interesting to see how Memphis sustains their current success. They are most likely going to lose their head coach after this season with all the P5 openings that will be popping up this season.

Don't underestimate the power of a deep pocketed corporate sponsor - FedEx.

That said, if Houston and to a lesser extent, Memphis, is added to the XII, this is strictly a compromise to allow the XII to have a conference championship without threatening the powerbase in Austin. It does nothing to address other concerns within the XII, such as their TV footprint since the XII already has a share of Houston and Memphis is the 48th largest TV Market in the US - just ahead of Austin and Louisville and behind #30 Hartford/New Haven. I would still expect Oklahoma and maybe Kansas and/or Oklahoma St. to bolt as soon as possible.

 

[Kolumbo]

I believe the ACC has some sort of "P5 out of conference" thing which BYU satisfies. Has the ACC included UCONN? Does that fact that BCU is playing UCONN mean anything? They all know something we don't?

 

[NYUConn]

I believe the ACC has some sort of "P5 out of conference" thing which BYU satisfies. Has the ACC included UCONN? Does that fact that BCU is playing UCONN mean anything? They all know something we don't?

I mean BC's AD Bates hasn't scheduled a P5 non-conference game since he took over. If I were in his shoes I would push the ACC to count UConn as a P5 opponent (they have not to date).

 

[Kolumbo]

I mean BC's AD Bates hasn't scheduled a P5 non-conference game since he took over. If I were in his shoes I would push the ACC to count UConn as a P5 opponent (they have not to date).

Lots of banter over at BC Interruption. This comment is what the ACC essentially struck out on.
"Sooooo 82% embrace the madness and fans from both sides have immediately embraced smack talkin. Can we put the "fans don’t want this game" argument to rest now?"
http://www.bcinterruption.com/bosto...uconn-huskies-is-happening-and-its-about-time

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Lots of banter over at BC Interruption. This comment is what the ACC essentially struck out on.
"Sooooo 82% embrace the madness and fans from both sides have immediately embraced smack talkin. Can we put the "fans don’t want this game" argument to rest now?"

http://www.bcinterruption.com/bosto...uconn-huskies-is-happening-and-its-about-time

If this game happens and the fist game is at Alumni. UConn fans need to show-up. Also, due to very limited tailgating options, UConn fans should take-over a bar somewhere between Kenmore and Cleveland Circle and maybe drop a dime to the local media to show-up and record what UConn can bring to the table.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

If this game happens and the fist game is at Alumni. UConn fans need to show-up. Also, due to very limited tailgating options, UConn fans should take-over a bar somewhere between Kenmore and Cleveland Circle and maybe drop a dime to the local media to show-up and record what UConn can bring to the table.

The games are happening.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

These flash in the pan seasons from low-level programs have ticked realignment "interest" over and over. UCF was a huge target just a year or two ago, who was "all but in" to the Big 12 after their BCS year. Everyone loved their location, size, blah, blah, blah. Then whoops, turns out they can't sustain their success and there are zero other redeeming qualities about the school - suddenly a total nonstarter. The same is now happening with Houston. Redundant market, big school that few actually care about, having one great season. See if the B12 really is all that interested after Houston loses their coach and goes 4-8.

 

[NYUConn]

These flash in the pan seasons from low-level programs have ticked realignment "interest" over and over. UCF was a huge target just a year or two ago, who was "all but in" to the Big 12 after their BCS year. Everyone loved their location, size, blah, blah, blah. Then whoops, turns out they can't sustain their success and there are zero other redeeming qualities about the school - suddenly a total nonstarter. The same is now happening with Houston. Redundant market, big school that few actually care about, having one great season. See if the B12 really is all that interested after Houston loses their coach and goes 4-8.

I don't disagree with your premise, but Houston, FWIW, does have a history of success in Football from their days in the Southwest Conference. They produced a Heisman Trophy winner in Andre Ware and have a long history of NFL caliber-talent and an engaged alumni base who they can count on to support a Big 12 football program.

You can't say that about Cincy, UCF or Memphis.

Realistically, if you have one team in the AAC that would be a good fit for the Big 12, it's definitely Houston.

 

[junglehusky]

These flash in the pan seasons from low-level programs have ticked realignment "interest" over and over. UCF was a huge target just a year or two ago, who was "all but in" to the Big 12 after their BCS year. Everyone loved their location, size, blah, blah, blah. Then whoops, turns out they can't sustain their success and there are zero other redeeming qualities about the school - suddenly a total nonstarter. The same is now happening with Houston. Redundant market, big school that few actually care about, having one great season. See if the B12 really is all that interested after Houston loses their coach and goes 4-8.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the CFP and the B12 this year. My guess is if Baylor or TCU get in, it will relieve some of the pressure to expand. If one of them is undefeated and the committe does not select them, it will create more impetus for expansion. At that point, the question is does the B12 want a program that would be expected to be a consistent quality program to help raise the conference's RPI, or two warm bodies so that they could have a championship game. If it's the former, Cincy and BYU might be favored. If it's the latter, Memphis and Houston. If expansion doesn't happen for a few more years, and memphis / houston are still successful, then they (or someone else) could tick off more boxes.

 

[junglehusky]

Again, if any of this is right, I'll puke if Houston and/or Memphis get their invite before us.

I'd be more likely to puke if Cincy gets P5 before us, even though they deserve it more than Houston/Memphis. As long as UConn is in the AAC it would be good to have Cincy there with us. I want both schools to get P5 invites, but at the same time. If Houston/Memphis both leave for the B12 and UConn/Cincy is still in the AAC, we just get UMass and another warm body in the AAC and continue to build our profile.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Losing Houston would not be a big loss. Honestly, if the AAC were smart, they'd say screw it and add BYU as football only. Cincinnati would be a major loss.

The only reason these teams are being considered over us is geography. 100% plain and simple. We are too much of a geographical outlier for them to consider.

 

[31GuardTrap]

If this game happens and the fist game is at Alumni. UConn fans need to show-up. Also, due to very limited tailgating options, UConn fans should take-over a bar somewhere between Kenmore and Cleveland Circle and maybe drop a dime to the local media to show-up and record what UConn can bring to the table.

Sunset Grill.

 

[NYUConn]

Losing Houston would not be a big loss. Honestly, if the AAC were smart, they'd say screw it and add BYU as football only. Cincinnati would be a major loss.

The only reason these teams are being considered over us is geography. 100% plain and simple. We are too much of a geographical outlier for them to consider.

I was just going to post that if the Big 12 passes on BYU it all but guarantees that they'll be headed to the AAC for football. BYU is putting all their cards in the Big 12 pot. It's not sustainable for them to continue as an Indy without New Years 6 bowl access.

 

[Dooley]

I was just going to post that if the Big 12 passes on BYU it all but guarantees that they'll be headed to the AAC for football. BYU is putting all their cards in the Big 12 pot. It's not sustainable for them to continue as an Indy without New Years 6 bowl access.

I'd welcome BYU with open arms should they decide to come join the misery called the AAC.

 

[31GuardTrap]

Sunset Grill.

Can take the Green Line (C?) in to Husky Hill for the game.

 

[Dooley]

I'd be more likely to puke if Cincy gets P5 before us, even though they deserve it more than Houston/Memphis. As long as UConn is in the AAC it would be good to have Cincy there with us. I want both schools to get P5 invites, but at the same time. If Houston/Memphis both leave for the B12 and UConn/Cincy is still in the AAC, we just get UMass and another warm body in the AAC and continue to build our profile.

I see what you're saying and it makes sense. I just choose to subscribe to the ridiculous "draft theory" of CR, even though it is NEVER followed. In other words, who is the most valuable school/athletic department available? BYU and UConn are 1-2 by a LARGE margin. It makes me mad that crappy schools/athletic departments would even be considered just based on geography alone. Why not MTSU instead of Memphis? Or SMU over Houston? When you're talking about those two schools/ADs, there really isn't much difference between Option A and Option B.

 

[don356]

I still believe Cincy will end up in the ACC. The big 12 has stumbled so badly in all of this conference reshuffling, that i believe they will be out hustled by all the other conferences on small pieces that remain, whether it's Uconn, Cincy, and the few others that truly should be in with the p5.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Sunset Grill.

No, with the beer list that they have, I'll never make it to the game

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I'd be more likely to puke if Cincy gets P5 before us, even though they deserve it more than Houston/Memphis. As long as UConn is in the AAC it would be good to have Cincy there with us. I want both schools to get P5 invites, but at the same time. If Houston/Memphis both leave for the B12 and UConn/Cincy is still in the AAC, we just get UMass and another warm body in the AAC and continue to build our profile.

If 2 teams were to leave the AAC, I can see the AAC replacing them with some combination of UMass (if they can finally get some support behind their football program), UNC Charlotte, and Old Dominion. Not at all thrilled; but, they are a tad closer to Storrs than Memphis and Houston.

 

[junglehusky]

I see what you're saying and it makes sense. I just choose to subscribe to the ridiculous "draft theory" of CR, even though it is NEVER followed. In other words, who is the most valuable school/athletic department available? BYU and UConn are 1-2 by a LARGE margin. It makes me mad that crappy schools/athletic departments would even be considered just based on geography alone. Why not MTSU instead of Memphis? Or SMU over Houston? When you're talking about those two schools/ADs, there really isn't much difference between Option A and Option B.

It's geography and recruiting territory for the B12 and other factors including academics and overall athletics success are secondary. Maybe cincy will get some benefit for being consistent in football, and their geography is not as much of a detriment as it would be for UConn/Temple.

Bottom line - crappy school A or B getting in the crappiest P5 league doesn't alter UConn's metrics, and shouldn't affect our long term P5 profile which was always going to be long-term anyway. In fact if I had to choose which two AAC schools to exit - obviously, other than UConn getting the golden invite, and assuming you couldn't foist Tulsa/Tulane/SMU on the b12 - I'd push for Memphis / Houston to the B12 because the AAC's current TV deal would be devalued by Cincy (or UConn) leaving. I guess having Memphis/Houston being successful and leaving would impact negotiations for the next contract as well... but we already know ESPN values Cincy and UConn.

The Draft Theory of CR applies more to the B1G and hopefully the ACC. The B12 subscribes to the Warm Body Theory.