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Exit 4 said:
Stop right there. Three problems:

1) None of these programs are really better off in your proposed amalgamation than in their current place. You may be able to sketch out some hypothetical revenue improvements, but nothing can be signed until schools exit. And none of these schools who have exit obligations stand to gain more under your proposal than they lose in exit fees (for those with exit fees).

2) And I don't see how any would find joining your amalgamation time worthy, especially when we all know that for BYU, Cincy, Boise and UConn its all set up to be a way station on the road to a P5 conf. Why join your confederation when it might have a shelf life of 2 years. It will take a ton of work to accomplish and probably more unstable than any 'conf' assembled to date.

3) Bowls will not respect any of these teams playing as independents. BYU has its deal, so does Army. Doubtful any bowls ditch a G5 or P5 line up to add this group.
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His plan has,like 10,moving parts, 9 of which are out of uconn ' s control. Other than,that what's not to like?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I think that UConn needs to be prepared for an extended stay in purgatory. That purgatory can't be the AAC because UConn wouldn't survive it, but maybe this is the first step towards something a little better.
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Okay so 4 pages and 25 individual posts defending his POV since yesterday at 6:25pm by nelsonmuntz, we now know unequivocally that Nelson does not like the AAC and we will burn a slow agonizing death unless we leave now. Can this be put to bed now?
 
Husky25 said:
It's not hard to see, but if you don't/can't, you'd be best advised to seek out an optometrist.
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Nelson would require a head-shrinking shaman from Papau-New Guinea.
 
UC1995 said:
Okay so 4 pages and 25 individual posts defending his POV since yesterday at 6:25pm by nelsonmuntz, we now know unequivocally that Nelson does not like the AAC and we will burn a slow agonizing death unless we leave now. Can this be put to bed now?
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Na it only gets more annoying
 
I feel like Bart in this normally somewhat interesting thread.

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Waylon's plan is better because it is based on 2 seed line differences in a tournament that is won just as easily from the 7 line as it is from the 3.
 
Staying in the AAC is the only option and as long as UConn is willing to fund athletics at a P5 level, I don't think "death" is imminent.

A couple things to note:

-We just built a state of the art hoop facility and are reeling in big recruits. As long as KO is here, hoops will survive.

-The football facility is around a decade old and is in good shape. We pay Diaco a P5 level salary and we are showing signs of improvement on the field as well as in recruiting.

-So, we have two top notch facilities, two P5 level compensated coaches who are recruiting in the AAC.

-Most of our games aside from FCS opponents and cupcake early season hoop opponents are on national tv. Which by the way is up for renegotiation in only a few years.

So, don't get me wrong, the AAC cannot be our final home if we want to compete at the top levels decades from now (barring a P5 secession from NCAA), but I think we have more time than people think.

Forming a schedule alliance in football and joining the A10 in hoops, isnt even worth discussing.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Staying in the AAC is the only option and as long as UConn is willing to fund athletics at a P5 level, I don't think "death" is imminent.

A couple things to note:

-We just built a state of the art hoop facility and are reeling in big recruits. As long as KO is here, hoops will survive.

-The football facility is around a decade old and is in good shape. We pay Diaco a P5 level salary and we are showing signs of improvement on the field as well as in recruiting.

-So, we have two top notch facilities, two P5 level compensated coaches who are recruiting in the AAC.

-Most of our games aside from FCS opponents and cupcake early season hoop opponents are on national tv. Which by the way is up for renegotiation in only a few years.

So, don't get me wrong, the AAC cannot be our final home if we want to compete at the top levels decades from now (barring a P5 secession from NCAA), but I think we have more time than people think.

Forming a schedule alliance in football and joining the A10 in hoops, isnt even worth discussing.
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In preparing to join a bigger and better league, Rutgers spent about five years bathing in red ink, and not just because red is one of their school colors.

It's clear we can't spend money at our current levels and not make more forever, but I just don't think things are going to stay the way they are forever.
 
No...death is not eminent..but beyond facilities and coaching pay....

UConn basketball needs to stay the course and not drop off.

The team needs to be mentioned in the same sentences with the best teams. Remain a Top 25 team and contender.

Great basketball is the branding and it must be maintained.
 
billybud said:
No...death is not eminent..but beyond facilities and coaching pay....

UConn basketball needs to stay the course and not drop off.

The team needs to be mentioned in the same sentences with the best teams. Remain a Top 25 team and contender.

Great basketball is the branding and it must be maintained.
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Well, it's a good thing we've won a men's title sooner than any school not named Duke, and that our women's team is like the Celtics of the 1960s.

I don't think any of this is relevant anymore, actually. The vast majority of schools that have changed leagues have never been subjected to a quality test. Ask yourself this: what's the brand of Syracuse? Virginia Tech? Pittsburgh? BC? Maryland? Rutgers? Colorado? Utah? TCU?

At best you've got Miami, Nebraska and Louisville that moved on football grounds; Virginia Tech, TCU and West Virginia that took the last train out of the station, hanging on for dear life; BC that was invited after being turned down once; Syracuse and Pitt that were added to try to wall off Penn State; Colorado and Utah that were added as emerging markets; and Maryland and Rutgers that were added for TV sets. No one gives a crap about quality anymore.

If they did, we wouldn't be sitting here holding the bag with more men's hoops than all of those schools put together, and a BCS berth sooner than half of them, and the greatest women's program in the history of women's college athletics, in one of the wealthiest states in the nation and the 30th largest TV markets (positioned between the 1st and 7th-largest).
 
UConn9604 said:
Well, it's a good thing we've won a men's title sooner than any school not named Duke, and that our women's team is like the Celtics of the 1960s.

I don't think any of this is relevant anymore, actually. The vast majority of schools that have changed leagues have never been subjected to a quality test. Ask yourself this: what's the brand of Syracuse? Virginia Tech? Pittsburgh? BC? Maryland? Rutgers? Colorado? Utah? TCU?

At best you've got Miami, Nebraska and Louisville that moved on football grounds; Virginia Tech, TCU and West Virginia that took the last train out of the station, hanging on for dear life; BC that was invited after being turned down once; Syracuse and Pitt that were added to try to wall off Penn State; Colorado and Utah that were added as emerging markets; and Maryland and Rutgers that were added for TV sets. No one gives a crap about quality anymore.

If they did, we wouldn't be sitting here holding the bag with more men's hoops than all of those schools put together, and a BCS berth sooner than half of them, and the greatest women's program in the history of women's college athletics, in one of the wealthiest states in the nation and the 30th largest TV markets (positioned between the 1st and 7th-largest).
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We don't like Syracuse, but they are clearly a basketball brand.

Pitt...not so much.
 
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UConn9604 said:
Well, it's a good thing we've won a men's title sooner than any school not named Duke, and that our women's team is like the Celtics of the 1960s.

I don't think any of this is relevant anymore, actually. The vast majority of schools that have changed leagues have never been subjected to a quality test. Ask yourself this: what's the brand of Syracuse? Virginia Tech? Pittsburgh? BC? Maryland? Rutgers? Colorado? Utah? TCU?

At best you've got Miami, Nebraska and Louisville that moved on football grounds; Virginia Tech, TCU and West Virginia that took the last train out of the station, hanging on for dear life; BC that was invited after being turned down once; Syracuse and Pitt that were added to try to wall off Penn State; Colorado and Utah that were added as emerging markets; and Maryland and Rutgers that were added for TV sets. No one gives a crap about quality anymore.

If they did, we wouldn't be sitting here holding the bag with more men's hoops than all of those schools put together, and a BCS berth sooner than half of them, and the greatest women's program in the history of women's college athletics, in one of the wealthiest states in the nation and the 30th largest TV markets (positioned between the 1st and 7th-largest).
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'Cuse and UConn were targeted to kill the Big East. Pitt was a last minute substitution but the goal was the same.
 
tzznandrew said:
We don't like Syracuse, but they are clearly a basketball brand.

Pitt...not so much.
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This is true. Yet they chose a basketball brand 260 miles away from Manhattan, in New York's Bridgeport, instead of a basketball brand that is at least four times greater (and went 6-3 vs. the other brand in football).

The last time Pitt made the Final Four, Pearl Harbor hadn't been bombed yet and the nation had just 48 states. Think about that... their most accomplished player since then is Dajuan Blair's shoulder.
 
UConn9604 said:
This is true. Yet they chose a basketball brand 260 miles away from Manhattan, in New York's Bridgeport, instead of a basketball brand that is at least four times greater (and went 6-3 vs. the other brand in football).

The last time Pitt made the Final Four, Pearl Harbor hadn't been bombed yet and the nation had just 48 states. Think about that... their most accomplished player since then is Dajuan Blair's shoulder.
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I don't think you can quantify "brand" based off of titles. 4 > 1, but in terms of "brand" (i.e. ratings, marketability, etc.) I don't think same ratio holds.

And yeah, your point on Pitt is right on.

It's important to remember what @CL82 said: were it not for the pettiness of BC, we're in the ACC right now instead of Pitt.
 
UConn9604 said:
This is true. Yet they chose a basketball brand 260 miles away from Manhattan, in New York's Bridgeport, instead of a basketball brand that is at least four times greater (and went 6-3 vs. the other brand in football).

The last time Pitt made the Final Four, Pearl Harbor hadn't been bombed yet and the nation had just 48 states. Think about that... their most accomplished player since then is Dajuan Blair's shoulder.
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I really feel your pain/frustration today. Just keep in mind the first rule of CR and it helps temper expectations. I happen to think their most accomplished player since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor was Jerome Lane. He shatters backboards like CR shatters hopes and dreams.

The B1G approved designation for football, partnering with Yale and Wisconsin on separate ventures all help to improve our resume. A W versus a good Navy team will also help. Everything that we need to have happen is happening so that's all we can do. Everything else is out of our control.
 
tzznandrew said:
I don't think you can quantify "brand" based off of titles. 4 > 1, but in terms of "brand" (i.e. ratings, marketability, etc.) I don't think same ratio holds.

And yeah, your point on Pitt is right on.

It's important to remember what @CL82 said: were it not for the pettiness of BC, we're in the ACC right now instead of Pitt.
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If UConn somehow does get into the B1G, I am going to set-up a crowd funding site to pay for a plane to fly over Alumni Stadium during a BC football game trailing a banner that reads - 'Thanks BC for helping UConn's entry into the B1G.'
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
If UConn somehow does get into the B1G, I am going to set-up a crowd funding site to pay for a plane to fly over Alumni Stadium during a BC football game trailing a banner that reads - 'Thanks BC for helping UConn's entry into the B1G.'
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I'm in! Do I make the check out to Mr Conehead or.......
 
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Fishy said:
No.

Scoring 53.

Have you ever seen a Big 12 game? They look like that.
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Agreed. Cincy actually has the same look. The Big 12 should just take those two and call it a day. Adding BYU, UCONN or UCF extends the conference's geography in ridiculous manner. Decent football and basketball, and two additional places for the conference to recruit players outside of the state of Texas.
 
Ldandy said:
Agreed. Cincy actually has the same look. The Big 12 should just take those two and call it a day. Adding BYU, UCONN or UCF extends the conference's geography in ridiculous manner. Decent football and basketball, and two additional places for the conference to recruit players outside of the state of Texas.
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This would also correlate directly with the first rule of conference realignment, kicking UCONN square in the nuts for another round.
 
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