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[FDNY99]

Texas has never been Nebraska's most fertile recruiting base.

You are right...they get most of their kids from Nebraska...BUT TX kids took up a fair amount of the roster spots at Nebraska before they left for the B1G... there is a direct correlation between the recruiting success they have in that state now from when they were in B-12. In June of 2010 when Nebraska was accepted into the B1g they had 28 kids from TX on the 2010 season football roster, they also had 28 kids in 2009. In 2011 Nebraska's first year in the B1G they had 21 kids on the roster from TX...the 2015 roster has 14. They have 1 kid committed from TX from the 2016 class. There is no way OU's play on the field doesn't suffer if they go to a conference that doesn't put them on the field in TX every other year.

 

[NEforceUConn]

You are right...they get most of their kids from Nebraska...BUT TX kids took up a fair amount of the roster spots at Nebraska before they left for the B1G... there is a direct correlation between the recruiting success they have in that state now from when they were in B-12. In June of 2010 when Nebraska was accepted into the B1g they had 28 kids from TX on the 2010 season football roster, they also had 28 kids in 2009. In 2011 Nebraska's first year in the B1G they had 21 kids on the roster from TX...the 2015 roster has 14. They have 1 kid committed from TX from the 2016 class. There is no way OU's play on the field doesn't suffer if they go to a conference that doesn't put them on the field in TX every other year.

I totally agree.

 

[itgoeslike]

Bingo. No chance UConn gets its ticket punched if it's KU and OU.

If KU and OU leave the Big 12, Texas doesn't stick around. If they go to the SEC, ACC or Big Ten, it's possible UConn could benefit. If they go indy or end up in the PAC, that might present some problems.

 

[Fishy]

If the Big 12 completely implodes, we are beyond screwed.

We're already beyond , but we would be so far beyond that it'd take some sort of NASA rover launching from regular to find us in our new orbit.

We'd be in a slightly prettier version of the AAC, but we'd likely be there for the rest of time.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Looks like an "insider" at Landthieves got caught for being a fake insider. Not surprising. User handle is Recruiter.

I don't see why people waste their time pretending to be an insider. Real insider information is rarely ever leaked.

It is almost always leaked. Pitt and Syracuse to ACC was announced on some southern radio station 2 weeks before it happened. A poster warned this board about Rutgers about a week before they left. One of the moonshine boys is occasionally dead on in between being wildly inaccurate. Heck, I was told by a friend that BCU was trying to get out of the Big East a month before that story broke, I just didn't believe it. Information leaks all the time. It is not like we are dealing with national security or corporate M&A.

 

[FDNY99]

Texas has never been Nebraska's most fertile recruiting base.

Actually the guy who called Recruiter out has been banned for regurgitating "insider information" from MH3, The Dude, and Flug.

 

[djct1999]

If I was Castiglione I would be in Boren's ear as much as possible to get him to call the SEC. OU has 43 kids on their roster from the state of TX...they leave for the B1G and they will see TX recruiting grind to a halt. Then they become like Nebraska...a program that loses it's most fertile recruiting base. At least with the SEC...they get away from UT...yet rejoin up with A&M.

Agree 100%. Been screaming this since the rumors starting flying.............OU and the B1g are a horrendous athletic fit. You nailed it right on the head...........10 years after joining the B1g, OU has a much greater chance of looking like a current version of Nebraska than they do Ohio State. For a school with options, the B1g is 3rd on their list of conferences to join.

 

[djct1999]

If the Big 12 completely implodes, we are beyond screwed.

We're already beyond , but we would be so far beyond that it'd take some sort of NASA rover launching from regular to find us in our new orbit.

We'd be in a slightly prettier version of the AAC, but we'd likely be there for the rest of time.

What you say is impossible, I say is our only shot.

 

[woomba]

I don't see how any realignment scenario involving Big 12 implosion is helpful to UConn unless they're looking forward to a AAC+Big 12 remnants merger.

I think all scenarios that result in UConn being joining a P5 conference involves the Big Ten shaking off a Virginia school or two.

 

[CL82]

I don't see how any realignment scenario involving Big 12 implosion is helpful to UConn unless they're looking forward to a AAC+Big 12 remnants merger.

I think all scenarios that result in UConn being joining a P5 conference involves the Big Ten shaking off a Virginia school or two.

There are some formulations where we become "the fourth school." They are wildly speculative, but what isn't wildly speculative on this board.

I don't see a way out of the AAC for us, but I didn't see the prior moves before they leaked either, so I take some comfort in the notion that something could be happening, despite the fact that it likely is not.

FWIW, September is another window where an announcement of B1G expansion is possible. I'm not holding my breath.

 

[itgoeslike]

If the Big Ten takes OU and Kansas as some have suggested, and Texas follows, they'll need a fourth. It's unlikely that the B1G will take another from the Big 12, or Missouri/Vanderbilt, or a strengthened ACC school. That leaves Connecticut. If the B1G shakes loose a Virginia school, or more, UConn has an opportunity to move to the ACC.

 

[woomba]

If Texas really wants in, they'll have influence on who #18 is and my bet would be a second Texas school.

 

[itgoeslike]

If Texas really wants in, they'll have influence on who #18 is and my bet would be a second Texas school.

Texas Tech? Baylor? SMU? TCU? Houston? I don't think so.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Bingo. No chance UConn gets its ticket punched if it's KU and OU.

UConn's best bet is that OU jumps to the SEC.

If that happens enough gets shaken up that maybe we have a chance because than the SEC would need a 16th from either the Big 12 or ACC. KU gets the B1G invite at 15 and we get a either a B1G invite at 16 or an ACC invite to backfill an ACC team that jumped to the SEC.

UConn's best chance is that the Big 12 holds together. It did last time it's imminent demise was rumored. As did the ACC when it's demise was rumored. I'll say it again, 4 X 16 is not enough schools. It has to be closer to 5 X 16 or 4 X 20.

 

[FDNY99]

IMHO Texas either goes west to the Pac...or most likely goes to the ACC with ND...with both schools keeping their tv deals. This puts the ACC at 16. They stop there. That will be enough to either get the ACCN off the ground or up the $$ from ESPN. It also gives the ACC a little more time to launch the ACCN.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If Texas really wants in, they'll have influence on who #18 is and my bet would be a second Texas school.

If Texas has any influence on who they are added with (to any conference) I'll wager heavily that there is no chance that another Texas school gets invited.

 

[UConn9604]

If Texas has any influence on who they are added with (to any conference) I'll wager heavily that there is no chance that another Texas school gets invited.

I think this is very true. A&M is already gone to the SEC and not leaving anytime soon. So which other Texas school has substantial value? Not Baylor, which has a lot in common with Wake Forest, and definitely not Texas Tech (not to mention TCU, Houston, etc.).

 

[itgoeslike]

If the PAC takes the four Texas schools; the Big takes Kansas and OU; the SEC takes OK State and K State, and the ACC takes WVU and holds or adds Iowa State too; then UConn is screwed. . .

 

[FDNY99]

If Texas has any influence on who they are added with (to any conference) I'll wager heavily that there is no chance that another Texas school gets invited.

What FfldCntyFan says here!!!!! UT looks out for one thing and one thing ONLY...UT! If every school in Texas was left out by CR tomorrow they would be doing cartwheels in Austin! They showed how they look at all the other schools in that state when they started the LHN. A&M couldn't wait to get away from them...just like OU has had enough. If you look at UT rationally you quickly realize they look at themselves as above everyone else and equal to ND. That's what makes me think that those 2 schools will be 15 & 16 in the ACC...with the special privilege of keeping their tv deals.

 

[Exit 4]

If the PAC takes the four Texas schools; the Big takes Kansas and OU; the SEC takes OK State and K State, and the ACC takes WVU and holds or adds Iowa State too; then UConn is screwed. . .

the cable box revenue model is becoming less predictable.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/cord-cutters-weights-on-pay-tv-1438820384


“I was shocked at how far the ratings across the board have fallen this spring, and you can’t really explain that easily. It’s not just Netflix,” said Mike White, the former chief executive of DirecTV. “It’s clear that the millennial generation is having an impact, and every media company is trying to figure out how to connect with them.”

In addition, for June through mid-July, the top 30 cable networks were down more than 10% in viewers in prime time and 20% among adults 18-49 compared with the same period a year ago, according to data from Nielsen.

Cable networks that have lost a significant amount of subscribers over the past four years include ESPN, Viacom Inc.’s Nickelodeon and Time Warner’s TNT, according to Nielsen data. Disney CEORobert Iger acknowledged ESPN has lost customers, but told analysts Tuesday that Nielsen’s estimate of a 7% decline was inaccurately large and that no one was hitting the panic button.

 

[itgoeslike]

What FfldCntyFan says here!!!!! UT looks out for one thing and one thing ONLY...UT! If every school in Texas was left out by CR tomorrow they would be doing cartwheels in Austin! They showed how they look at all the other schools in that state when they started the LHN. A&M couldn't wait to get away from them...just like OU has had enough. If you look at UT rationally you quickly realize they look at themselves as above everyone else and equal to ND. That's what makes me think that those 2 schools will be 15 & 16 in the ACC...with the special privilege of keeping their tv deals.

Does LHN work if their bulk of their sports are in the ACC or do they look to craft their own football deal similar to ND?

 

[FDNY99]

Does LHN work if their bulk of their sports are in the ACC or do they look to craft their own football deal similar to ND?

IMHO LHN works because outside of basketball they will have enough content to still be viable. And even then if the ACC let's them keep the LHN as terms of UT agreeing to join the Conference...they can still put their hoops games that aren't on ESPN. Thing is ESPN has a stake in the LHN so that stuff would be pretty easy.

 

[Mr. Hand]

If the Big 12 completely implodes, we are beyond screwed.

We're already beyond , but we would be so far beyond that it'd take some sort of NASA rover launching from regular to find us in our new orbit.

We'd be in a slightly prettier version of the AAC, but we'd likely be there for the rest of time.

If this is true, then we are already banished for the rest of time.

Seriously, what far fetched but plausible scenario gets us in the P4? Other than mass chaos of the B12 implosion and the half dozen permutations it might create, are we waiting on Notre Dame to join the ACC (pipe dream)? B1G invite in ten years (same likelihood as a B12 implosion)? I'm coming up blank on something else?

 

[CallMeBruce]

If this is true, then we are already banished for the rest of time.

Seriously, what far fetched but plausible scenario gets us in the P4? Other than mass chaos of the B12 implosion and the half dozen permutations it might create, are we waiting on Notre Dame to join the ACC (pipe dream)? B1G invite in ten years (same likelihood as a B12 implosion)? I'm coming up blank on something else?

If the B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and OU, I'd think that the SEC would want to expand, and there's nothing else coming out of the B12 they'd want, except Texas, which isn't happening. So they'll poach a couple of teams from the ACC (NC State and V-Tech?), which will need to backfill. I'd imagine that their top candidates would be us and WVU. Maybe Cincinnati would be involved, but I think we'd have to be ahead of them, especially if the ACC wants to get a network. Then UT goes to the ACC as a football independent, and we're sitting pretty. The seven remaining B12 schools grab the best 5 schools remaining (Cincy, Memphis, BYU, Boise State, UCF), and we pretend that's still a power conference until the new TV deals.

 

[Mr. Hand]

If the B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and OU, I'd think that the SEC would want to expand, and there's nothing else coming out of the B12 they'd want, except Texas, which isn't happening. So they'll poach a couple of teams from the ACC (NC State and V-Tech?), which will need to backfill. I'd imagine that their top candidates would be us and WVU. Maybe Cincinnati would be involved, but I think we'd have to be ahead of them, especially if the ACC wants to get a network. Then UT goes to the ACC as a football independent, and we're sitting pretty. The seven remaining B12 schools grab the best 5 schools remaining (Cincy, Memphis, BYU, Boise State, UCF), and we pretend that's still a power conference until the new TV deals.

The B12 losing OU, Kansas, and Texas equals "implosion."

 

[Adios]

Once again, Delany said as of this year that the Big Ten is expanding east...........

Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas A&M already tried. The Big Ten went with Maryland and Rutgers.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...a-state-sought-to-join-big-ten-in-2010-072615

 

[CL82]

Once again, Delany said as of this year that the Big Ten is expanding east......

Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas A&M already tried. The Big Ten went with Maryland and Rutgers.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...a-state-sought-to-join-big-ten-in-2010-072615

(I don't believe ESPN or Fox would stop paying the Big 12's television rights fee because they could be sued for helping to encourage the existing Big 12 schools to change conferences. Why would the schools be leaving for the Pac 12 and the Big Ten? For more TV money. Where does that money come from? ESPN and Fox's deals with the two conferences. It's no surprise that no conference has ever lost its television package over the loss of members. Now what would happen when the TV contracts ran out? The conference might well die). ​

Yeah and ESPN would never fund the evisceration of a conference leaving it to whither and die.

 

[CallMeBruce]

The B12 losing OU, Kansas, and Texas equals "implosion."

I don't think I disputed that anywhere. I'm just saying what I think the result would be. I don't think a Big 12 implosion necessarily creates a horrible, dire situation for UConn.

 

[TRest]

If the B1G goes to 16 with Kansas and OU, I'd think that the SEC would want to expand, and there's nothing else coming out of the B12 they'd want, except Texas, which isn't happening. So they'll poach a couple of teams from the ACC (NC State and V-Tech?), which will need to backfill. I'd imagine that their top candidates would be us and WVU. Maybe Cincinnati would be involved, but I think we'd have to be ahead of them, especially if the ACC wants to get a network. Then UT goes to the ACC as a football independent, and we're sitting pretty. The seven remaining B12 schools grab the best 5 schools remaining (Cincy, Memphis, BYU, Boise State, UCF), and we pretend that's still a power conference until the new TV deals.

There is no real reason a conference like the ACC needs to backfill if it loses a couple of members. As long as they have 12, they have their championship game. Why add more schools when you already have plenty of dead weight as it is? I just don't think there is some end game where there will be 4 or 5 power conferences with 16 teams each.

 

[don356]

Tcu and Baylor are arguably the two best fball schools in the b12 right now.