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[Kolumbo]

I get the pros and cons of both sides. Having to wait until 2031 for football is a tough pill to swallow and I could see it being a big sticking point. The Big 12 and ACC are #3 and #4 right now and both sides think they will be doing the poaching. If the Big 12 grabs UConn, that could go a long way to having ACC programs preferring to join the Big 12 rather than trying to keep the ACC afloat.

What if UConn agrees to the 2031 date and then suddenly Pitt and Cuse get a full invite in say 2028? If the Big 12 is really serious about adding UConn, we should be doing everything possible to get football in earlier even if it means a discount.

 

[noeynox]

I am in favor of more money, but the only data we have is Boneyarders negotiating among ourselves for what our cut will be. Until we know, we don't know. The difference needs to include the fact that we have to pay $15 million to leave the Big East.

I think that a minimum game commitment by Big 12 schools would be a good sweetener for UConn, and tip the deal in the Big 12's favor. But just leaving the Big East for the Big 12 for a few million more a year for the chance to apply to join the Big 12 for football in 2031 is not that exciting.

We paid 17 million to leave the AAC early. That was worth it. This would be too.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I get the pros and cons of both sides. Having to wait until 2031 for football is a tough pill to swallow and I could see it being a big sticking point. The Big 12 and ACC are #3 and #4 right now and both sides think they will be doing the poaching. If the Big 12 grabs UConn, that could go a long way to having ACC programs preferring to join the Big 12 rather than trying to keep the ACC afloat.

What if UConn agrees to the 2031 date and then suddenly Pitt and Cuse get a full invite in say 2028? If the Big 12 is really serious about adding UConn, we should be doing everything possible to get football in earlier even if it means a discount.

UConn doesn't move the needle at all, for anyone. And it is reasonably likely that most of both the Big 12 and ACC get blown out and left on the side of the road if college football becomes a P2 or just blows itself up with stupidity and kills the sport. Would we rather be in the Big East or Big 12 when that happens?

 

[AllHusky]

Where will the incentive and money come from in the next 7 years to ramp up the football program?

The incentive has always been there, people either can’t or don’t want to see it.

Twelve months ago, it was a good idea to build up the FB program in order to be ready for the opportunity when it presented itself(luck is opportunity meeting preparation, except in Rutgers case. Pure dumb luck.)

With the speed that collegiate athletics has evolved, it is now imperative to get straight, or Hoops will go away

 

[jostar1]

The incentive has always been there, people either can’t or don’t want to see it.

Twelve months ago, it was a good idea to build up the FB program in order to be ready for the opportunity when it presented itself(luck is opportunity meeting preparation, except in Rutgers case. Pure dumb luck.)

With the speed that collegiate athletics has evolved, it is now imperative to get straight, or Hoops will go away

If we get a scheduling agreement with the Big 12 for football, that would go a long way to increase fan support of the football program, including buying tickets. And big donor support. That is why I ask where is the money going to come from in the next 7 years if we aren't going to the Big 12?

 

[CL82]

the biggest change from this year to last year is probably the television value of Women's basketball. If this happens, we should all send Caitlin Clark a thank you note for the assist.

I'm not a huge Caitlyn Clark fan. She kind of seems like a jerk to me, with her taunting opponents two years ago in Iowa's NCAA run or the flops she takes in the WNBA, but she is indisputably an incredible talent. Everybody talks about her shooting range, but her assists are really well done, smart and right on the money.

I absolutely agree that she has been the catalyst for an awakening of appreciation of women's basketball. Think that's hyperbole? The most watched basketball game last year, men's or women's, including the NBA, was the national championship game. A tribute that largely to her record-breaking run her senior year.

So, yeah, while the Connecticut women's basketball brand was already well established and national, the appreciation for women's basketball generally was enhanced by Clark's flashy skill set, and incredible run last year.

 

[AllHusky]

If we get a scheduling agreement with the Big 12 for football, that would go a long way to increase fan support of the football program, including buying tickets. And big donor support. That is why I ask where is the money going to come from in the next 7 years if we aren't going to the Big 12?

Going to be a struggle if we aren’t in, but going “all out” or “ we’ll wait until 2030 to get going”can’t be an option. Where did Mr D’Amelio come from? Let’s find the next one! Tough job, but that’s what it is.

 

[Kolumbo]

UConn doesn't move the needle at all, for anyone. And it is reasonably likely that most of both the Big 12 and ACC get blown out and left on the side of the road if college football becomes a P2 or just blows itself up with stupidity and kills the sport. Would we rather be in the Big East or Big 12 when that happens?

UConn does move the needle. Whatever happens, when the dust settles, I think programs like Pitt, Cuse, Louisville would prefer to be with UConn, Cincy, WVU. If they do get blown up, I'd rather be with those remaining football schools in what could be a similar Big East Football Conference.

 

[CL82]

Where will the incentive and money come from in the next 7 years to ramp up the football program?

Well, I would imagine that a goal of not sucking is something that the team, the coaching staff, in the athletic department has always had. in addition to that dangling, the carrot of P4 membership is another nice incentive.

 

[NowInStorrs]

Yes they would. I don't understand why Yormark with put UConn through this if he knew he couldn't do it to start with.

Well apparently they did have the votes if you believe the leaks. They even supposedly had the votes last year. Now they're trying to hold on to the votes.

 

[Forte]

The show is still live, so I’ll go back to try to find it later, but why does getting UConn allow the Big 12 to get ACC schools? Wouldn’t ACC schools come to the Big 12 no matter what?

This Monty guy has to be full of it. There’s no way UConn turned down an ACC offer, and there’s no way Gonzaga has an offer to the Big 12. Yormark openly said those talks are done, and even Dennis Dodd mentioned that interest in Gonzaga has dropped, but UConn is still in the mix. It’s pretty clear where things stand. Yormark wants basketball, and the Big 12 Presidents and ADs see themselves as equals to the SEC and Big Ten. If a vote was going to happen, it would’ve happened by now. This whole situation will fade as football season gets underway—maybe that’s why the timing worked out so well.

Well apparently they did have the votes if you believe the leaks. They even supposedly had the votes last year. Now they're trying to hold on to the votes.

UConn did have the votes. But bringing in BYU and Utah probably didn't do much to help UConn's cause, nor UCF prob.

 

[CL82]

This Monty guy has to be full of it.

So you're saying he's the full Monty?

 

[buddy]

Well apparently they did have the votes if you believe the leaks. They even supposedly had the votes last year. Now they're trying to hold on to the votes.

If they had the votes, we would not be discussing this now.

 

[whalerfan]

If they had the votes, we would not be discussing this now.

Not so sure on that one. It's Thursday now and they just got their consultant presentation on Monday. Given that and it's a new school year. I'm sure there's arm twisting going on but these once in motion turn like a cruise ship.

 

[upstater]

Not so sure on that one. It's Thursday now and they just got their consultant presentation on Monday. Given that and it's a new school year. I'm sure there's arm twisting going on but these once in motion turn like a cruise ship.

The votes on the Pac12 schools took 2 days.

This is going on so so long. Not good.

 

[Kolumbo]

The votes on the Pac12 schools took 2 days.

This is going on so so long. Not good.

I'm surprised the vote on the PAC 12 schools took more than 20 minutes. That was an absolute gift for the Big 12.

 

[huskymedic]

The votes on the Pac12 schools took 2 days.

This is going on so so long. Not good.

Happens…

Conference Realignment: ACC still does not have votes to add Cal and Stanford

Will the ACC expand and add the two west coast teams?

www.si.com

“In an earlier report that came out a couple of weeks ago, it was Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, and NC State that were voting against adding both schools and one vote would need to flip if Cal and Stanford wanted to join the conference (expanding requires 12 out of 15 votes). From what Marcello is reporting, it does not sound like any of those schools have flipped their votes.”

Who knows which way this wind will end up blowing…

 

[jostar1]

The votes on the Pac12 schools took 2 days.

This is going on so so long. Not good.

This is an entirely different situation. No conference has added a school for football and basketball at different times.

 

[psilotic]

UConn doesn't move the needle at all, for anyone.

Yeah, I guess those thriving nationally relevant programs at Syracuse, BC, Pitt, Louisville, etc. etc. are top of mind for college fans everywhere.

 

[ZooCougar]

The votes on the Pac12 schools took 2 days.

This is going on so so long. Not good.

Sounds like some schools think it’s too much too quickly.

 

[Forte]

Sounds like some schools think it’s too much too quickly.

I wonder if they would make that same statement if it were say .... Clemson and FSU at this very moment?

 

[auror]

Monty and his son have always been against UConn, but they have changed their tune. They finally get Yormark's plan. Yormark wants UConn so he can get the ACC schools. The Big 12 thinks they can get them. He says he talked to someone high up in the Big 12.

I had the script on Friday

The B12 commissioner is trying to zag when the other power conferences are zigging. He's expecting basketball to have growth and earn a closer share of revenue dollars to football over the years. So he's loading up on undervalued basketball-focused properties (Arizona, Houston, BYU, etc.) and worthwhile "leftovers".

His goal is P3. The top schools in all other conferences have joined the B1G or SEC, and FSU/Clemson have made it clear they're looking to bolt the ACC as soon as they find a way around the grant of rights or bully their way out. Yormark is seeing how tenuous the ACC's position is, and how many strong basketball-focused brands/schools the ACC has that won't be the top choice of B1G/SEC. The B12 was almost dead, and now he's trying to make the B12 a better landing spot for some of the basketball-focused ACC schools when the time comes instead of ACC teams staying and trying to poach FROM the B12. So he's getting UConn in right away to further enhance the B12's value in the run up to their next media negotiation and next round of realignment (easier to convince east coast teams from ACC that B12 will work for them if they have UConn as a test case and "friend" as it were... and keep us from the ACC as a decent fill-in when others leave).

From UConn's perspective, joining right away hopefully gets us more short term money while eventually getting us enough money when football joins and we get a full share to compete when the House settlement and revenue sharing of up to $25 million annually to players kicks in. B12 presidents don't want to give us football money that comes out of their share and ESPN won't give us full pro rata share because our football is garbage. So have to wait for a full re-negotiation in 2031, and B12 presidents are pretty skeptical about our football so they'll add some stipulations to protect themselves from us joining if we don't improve football so we're not a net drain on that future football negotiation. UConn would prefer football in right away, but it doesn't seem to be an option.

 

[Patman]

Sounds like some schools think it’s too much too quickly.

Also the pac12 was a very different situation and there were time pressures. There are no time pressures right now

 

[UConnTrumbull]

IIRC the corner 4 schools, aside from Colorado, were a package deal.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

IIRC the corner 4 schools, aside from Colorado, were a package deal.

Those schools had less leverage than UConn has now, and were bad and/or redundant in their markets. They were desperate and in no position to make make demands and they got full memberships in a league that appears to be turning us down for a basketball only membership coming off a national championship in men’s and a final four in women’s where we posted one of the highest rated games in the sport’s history despite playing it at 10 pm on a Friday.

Conference realignment sucks.